Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #41

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frogwell said:
hmmm... it's really difficult for me to comprehend that people within the force "hate" GJ that much that they would sabotage his career or WT's investigation, or internal forces are working within the department to secure a particular outcome for this case...
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You're replying to me, and I don't understand what you're saying. Did you think I was implying either that some colleagues hated GJ or that he was collateral damage in the determination to get a particular result in William? Or, are you surprised that he's been charged because IYO that means one of those two must be the case?
 
RubyHill said:
NSW Police confirmed the 57-year-old was charged with four offences under the Surveillance Devices Act.

It says the Professional Standards Command began an investigation in 2018 after a number of complaints.

Those inquiries found a number of recordings allegedly made in Parramatta and Kendall in NSW.

https://7news.com.au/news/nsw-polic...Q9tj-bm9GItc5rdEHFFkKOyt-GDTfhb8Dqr3D6C9UPCHA
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Interesting locations.

Who complained? (rhetorical question)
A fellow officer who has never stepped a foot out of place? Seems that the recorded persons would not have known they were being recorded.
 
JLZ said:
You're replying to me, and I don't understand what you're saying. Did you think I was implying either that some colleagues hated GJ or that he was collateral damage in the determination to get a particular result in William? Or, are you surprised that he's been charged because IYO that means one of those two must be the case?
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Sorry, it seems I have wondered out aloud, in response to the wrong post.
 
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RubyHill said:
NSW Police confirmed the 57-year-old was charged with four offences under the Surveillance Devices Act.

It says the Professional Standards Command began an investigation in 2018 after a number of complaints.

Those inquiries found a number of recordings allegedly made in Parramatta and Kendall in NSW.

https://7news.com.au/news/nsw-polic...Q9tj-bm9GItc5rdEHFFkKOyt-GDTfhb8Dqr3D6C9UPCHA
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Is the case and the possibility of a conviction one day now in jeopardy? I thought a lot of GJ but I am disappointed if the allegations of misconduct are true.
 
gregjrichards said:
Is the case and the possibility of a conviction one day now in jeopardy? I thought a lot of GJ but I am disappointed if the allegations of misconduct are true.
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I think Jubes was very much focused on the case, perhaps to his own detriment.

But as I posted before (post 939) .... illegal recordings are sometimes allowed in court. Depending on the judges discretion and the weight applied to the illegal recordings. I think we should all try to remember that. There may have been decent motivation behind his actions.

Jubes is not a bad person. He has never abducted a child, or murdered, or raped ... or done any of the other things that the scum do. In fact, he has done very, very, very much good throughout his career. Has always tried hard for the NSW public.

Let's not throw him to the wolves now (not directed at you, greg, just want us all to keep it in perspective until we hear the circumstances).
 
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In a statement to the media, Mr Jubelin's lawyer said the former detective will "strongly defend" the charges.

"[He] is confident that these matters will shortly be resolved in his favour," Margaret Cunneen SC said.

Before announcing his resignation, the former detective had been confined to desk duties while the professional standards probe took place.

A source said he had only been performing basic duties to obtain information from a suspect and was due to finish work next month.

The source said Mr Jubelin, who returned from a holiday in Europe on Wednesday, had also been listed on an internal NSW Police "wanted list".

"He doesn't even know if he has been suspended from duty," she said.

William Tyrrell case detective Gary Jubelin charged with misconduct - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
 
Due to retire in a month, apparently. Will be in court for this offence on 30th July. This one says four offences, not three as Ch9 said.


Veteran homicide detective Gary Jubelin has been charged with illegally recording conversations less than a month out from his retirement.

Police on Friday served Detective Chief Inspector Jubelin, 57, with a court attendance notice for the breach of the Surveillance Devices Act following a lengthy internal investigation that saw him sidelined from the high-profile William Tyrrell investigation.

The offence carries a maximum of five years jail or a $110,000 fine.

NSW Police issued the following statement: “A Detective Chief Inspector from a specialist command has been charged with four offences under the Surveillance Devices Act.

Insp Jubelin’s barrister, Margaret Cunneen SC, said her client denied any wrongdoing whatsoever and would strongly defend the charges.
“It is understood the charges are to be preferred under the Surveillance Devices Act and relate to recordings made during the execution of Detective Chief Inspector Jubelin’s duties,” she said in a statement.

“Detective Chief Inspector Jubelin is confident that these matters will shortly be resolved in his favour.”

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph
Jubelin charged over breaches to Listening Devices Act
June 21, 2019 9:02am
 
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sosocurious said:
A source said he had only been performing basic duties to obtain information from a suspect and was due to finish work next month.

William Tyrrell case detective Gary Jubelin charged with misconduct - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

A suspect in what case?
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The Telegraph article says in William's case.

"It is understood the charge relates to Insp Jubelin allegedly recording a conversation with a person in the Tyrrell investigation on his mobile phone."

(link in my post #956 above)
 
It also says they debated for weeks over whether to charge Jubes with the minor offence.


"For weeks, the top brass has been deliberating whether or not to charge Insp Jubelin, one of the state’s most recognised homicide investigators, with the minor offence after receiving advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that there was sufficient evidence to proceed."

(link in my post #956 above)
 
SouthAussie said:
The Telegraph article says in William's case.

"It is understood the charge relates to Insp Jubelin allegedly recording a conversation with a person in the Tyrrell investigation on his mobile phone."

(link in my post above)
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I did not mean who it was he is said to have recorded.
I meant what suspect was he obtaining information from while on basic desk duties.

A source said he had only been performing basic duties to obtain information from a suspect.
Before announcing his resignation, the detective had been confined to desk duties while the professional standards probe took place.
William Tyrrell case detective Gary Jubelin charged with misconduct - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
 
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