Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #42

Discussion in '2010's Missing' started by Coldpizza, Sep 11, 2016.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Coldpizza

    Coldpizza WS Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

    Messages:
    19,781
    Likes Received:
    593
    Trophy Points:
    113
    William Tyrrell: ‘One million reasons’ to come forward over toddler’s abduction
    7:29pm September 12, 2016

    [​IMG]

    A $1 million reward, the largest in New South Wales history, has been announced for information that leads to the arrest of the person who abducted missing toddler William Tyrrell, or for the boy’s safe return or recovery.

    William, then aged three, went missing from the backyard of his grandmother’s home in Kendall, on the state's mid-north coast, on September 12, 2014.

    [...]

    "You’re in a much better position if you come to us than if we come to you."

    Det. Insp. Jubelin also said the investigation was "a long way" from going to a coronial inquest, and that police did not believe William's family were involved.

    PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS WRITTEN BELOW. YOU MUST FOLLOW WHAT IS OUTLINED OR YOU WILL BE TIMED OUT OR BANNED!!!!

    Thanks to DrSleuth for your help in writing up the information needed for the discussion.

    Here is what we can and cannot discuss.

    No identifying the biological family, the foster family or any associates ( ie siblings, etc ) or their addresses, places of employment or childcare, etc

    They can be identified as bio mother etc & female foster carer etc

    At the inquest, they are known as biological mother & father. Foster family are known as FFC ( female foster carer ) MFC ( male foster carer ) FFGM ( female foster grandmother ) etc
    REMEMBER THE ABOVE PEOPLE
    CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED USING THEIR INITIALS.

    Prior to the coronial inquest, the bio families could be identified, but it was overturned by the coroner for the inquest.


    I am very sorry it took me so long to open this thread back up. Please keep in mind we are short handed so if this thread starts to get out of control with alerts we will have to close it again.
    Please do not hesitate to alert but make sure the alert is truly needed. We have experienced a lot of tit for tat alerts and that makes me foam at the mouth, grow hair on my hands and my teeth turn into fangs. In other words please be sure when you post you are posting within our terms of service.

    Thank you,
    Tricia

    Rules Etiquette & Information

    William Tyrrell MEDIA/TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

    Thread #28 Thread #29 Thread #30 Thread #31 Thread #32 Thread #33 Thread #34 Thread #35
    Thread #36 Thread #37 Thread #38 Thread #39 Thread #40 Thread #41
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 5, 2019


  2. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator Moderator

    Messages:
    26,731
    Likes Received:
    27,355
    Trophy Points:
    113
    PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS WRITTEN BELOW. YOU MUST FOLLOW WHAT IS OUTLINED OR YOU WILL BE TIMED OUT OR BANNED!!!!

    Thanks to DrSleuth for your help in writing up the information needed for the discussion.

    Here is what we can and cannot discuss.

    No identifying the biological family, the foster family or any associates ( ie siblings, etc ) or their addresses, places of employment or childcare, etc

    They can be identified as bio mother etc & female foster carer etc

    At the inquest, they are known as biological mother & father. Foster family are known as FFC ( female foster carer ) MFC ( male foster carer ) FFGM ( female foster grandmother ) etc
    REMEMBER THE ABOVE PEOPLE CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED USING THEIR INITIALS.


    Prior to the coronial inquest, the bio families could be identified, but it was overturned by the coroner for the inquest.

    I am very sorry it took me so long to open this thread back up. Please keep in mind we are short handed so if this thread starts to get out of control with alerts we will have to close it again.
    Please do not hesitate to alert but make sure the alert is truly needed. We have experienced a lot of tit for tat alerts and that makes me foam at the mouth, grow hair on my hands and my teeth turn into fangs. In other words please be sure when you post you are posting within our terms of service.

    Thank you,
    Tricia
     
  3. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator Moderator

    Messages:
    26,731
    Likes Received:
    27,355
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I will keep posting the information as soon as we are certain everyone understands who they cannot identify. One more time:
    No identifying the biological family, the foster family or any associates ( ie siblings, etc ) or their addresses, places of employment or childcare, etc

    They can be identified as bio mother etc & female foster carer etc

    At the inquest, they are known as biological mother & father. Foster family are known as FFC ( female foster carer ) MFC ( male foster carer ) FFGM ( female foster grandmother ) etc
    REMEMBER THE ABOVE PEOPLE CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED USING THEIR INITIALS.
     
  4. sillybilly

    sillybilly WS Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

    Messages:
    20,829
    Likes Received:
    22,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please continue discussion of William's case here.
     
  5. SouthAussie

    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    16,210
    Likes Received:
    36,316
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Would be easy enough to find out. Just have to find the pic of him sitting at the police vehicle in front of FGM's house with his head in his hands, after he had been frantically searching for William after he returned from the online GoToMeeting.

    I don't imagine that he took time out to change his clothes before running around searching for William in every place he could think of.
     
  6. Bohemian

    Bohemian Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,071
    Likes Received:
    14,602
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I was just thinking about that photo. From memory, he certainly wasn’t wearing a suit but casual clothes.
     
  7. SouthAussie

    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    16,210
    Likes Received:
    36,316
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, that is what I recall as well.
    I guess that if people are interested enough they know that photo is likely still out there somewhere.
     
  8. stormbird

    stormbird Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    1,001
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Re some posts in the previous thread: I think it's possible the man asking for directions could have been MFC. On the way home from the pharmacy MFC stopped somewhere to buy newspapers (see below for the link), so that could have been in Kendall.

    And I think "well-dressed" could mean lots of things, including just that the person observing the man liked his clothes or thought the colours were nicely co-ordinated. (Where I live, "well-dressed" could mean anyone with shoes on.)

    I can imagine MFC being in a hurry to get home, so if he'd stopped at a shop in Comboyne Street, Kendall, he could have said something like "I'm heading for Benaroon Drive - which is the best way to go? Albert St into Batar Creek Road? Or Orara St to Laurel St then Batar Creek Rd?" The shopkeeper might later have described that as someone asking for directions.

    Link:
    "[FFC] checked her phone and saw a text from her husband saying he was nearly home after stopping to buy some newspapers at a nearby store."
    - "William Tyrrell inquest: Foster mum says she heard a high-pitched scream", Port Macquarie News, 26 March 2019
     
  9. papertrail

    papertrail Former Member

    Messages:
    2,570
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Bringing my reply over from #41
    If he had not driven to Lakewood and Laurieton before and then back to Kendall where he picked up something...in testimony at Inquest cannot recall where in Kendall it was...he may have become disorientated. Sure he had been to Benaroon ex Sydney before but there is no evidence he had been from Benaroon to Lakewood to Laurieton to inner Kendall township then Benaroon previously.

    Smart clothes for a business based Skype meeting that was obviously preplanned would be the go I would reckon. I am told he always dressed immaculately in his professional life. I doubt he would dress in casual attire for a business based Skype meeting.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 6, 2019
    Warshawski and bearbear like this.
  10. papertrail

    papertrail Former Member

    Messages:
    2,570
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Reply to Bohemians post #41 thread
    Yeah I think at the most a collared shirt would have been acceptable attire. After all it was a ‘casual Friday’.

    It may have been a very critical Skype business based meeting given it was prearranged and not pushed back until the family returned to Sydney. 'Casual Friday' as you say was probably not relevant. What is relevant for me is there was obvious some urgency to attend to the meeting on the 12th from my perspective.
     
  11. papertrail

    papertrail Former Member

    Messages:
    2,570
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It would be great to get a link from Southaussie
    that verifies the police dismissed the well dressed man report as there may be information that states why they dismissed the reported sighting.
     
  12. SouthAussie

    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    16,210
    Likes Received:
    36,316
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Some articles say that the man stopped at a shop in Kew, to ask for directions to Batar Creek Road.

    From memory, FD was wearing jeans, sneakers, and a t-shirt that morning. He may have had a dressier shirt over the t-shirt for the GoToMeeting and taken it off before or while he was running around.

    The photo will be back in the early threads somewhere.

    I also think (in the podcast maybe? or perhaps elsewhere ... I can't remember) it was stated that he had done this trip to Lakewood before to use the fast-speed internet. I feel fairly sure that returning from Lakewood to Kendall is a very direct route. And accessing Benaroon Drive from Batar Creek Road - the road that was actually asked for according to most articles except news.com.au, that I can see - would be something he was familiar with.

    He wasn't gone for very long, considering there was the trip to Lakewood, a GoToMeeting, a prescription pickup, and a trip back to FGM's house.
     
  13. mussopossum

    mussopossum Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    910
    Likes Received:
    3,950
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I will also add, A man with his professional background would most likely have a navigation system in his car. I cant quote his profession due to WS rules however a professional business person would most likely have a navigation system in their car. Especially a family. JMO. In saying that Im not sure whos car the FF took, the family car they arrived in or the FGM car. Also allow for drop outs in satellite communication and the navigation unit not working.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 6, 2019
    bearbear, stormbird and papertrail like this.
  14. purpleandgreen

    purpleandgreen Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,529
    Likes Received:
    7,222
    Trophy Points:
    113
    <modsnip: quoted post was removed>

    Do you think he'd be wearing a tie, Bo?
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 6, 2019
    SouthAussie and Bohemian like this.
  15. Bohemian

    Bohemian Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,071
    Likes Received:
    14,602
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Probably.
     
    SouthAussie and purpleandgreen like this.
  16. purpleandgreen

    purpleandgreen Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,529
    Likes Received:
    7,222
    Trophy Points:
    113
    BBM. And it's not as is it's a highly populated area. Highly highly unlikely that he'd get lost and highly, highly unlikely it was him asking for directions IMO.
     
  17. papertrail

    papertrail Former Member

    Messages:
    2,570
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Trophy Points:
    113
    From memory info out of Inquest suggested he used 'suri' which is day nav system I understand. But as you say he may have hit a black spot. I am told Kendall region was full of such blackspots in 2014 including the inner township.
    I am also told he drove a very dark grey 4wd which matched the description the well dressed man was driving.

    Happy to move on now. It's not here nor there any way and is not highly relevant from my perspective.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 6, 2019
    FromGermany and bearbear like this.
  18. papertrail

    papertrail Former Member

    Messages:
    2,570
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We will have to agree to disagree on this one as I believe he was very keen to return to 48 to the chikdren as their day was planned asap therefore uf he became disorientated and hit a blackspot found his sat nav not working it would be highly likely he would ask for directions instead of wasting his valuable time being taken away from the children.

    Moving on.
     
  19. purpleandgreen

    purpleandgreen Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,529
    Likes Received:
    7,222
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes we will, but having visited there on many occasions I stand by my opinion. And yes, very, very happy to move on.
     
  20. kiwi50

    kiwi50 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,238
    Likes Received:
    2,389
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agree totally. Its not like he has “stupid”tatooed on his forehead.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice