Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #46

[they'll get you]

Mail delivery in a lot of small nsw towns I've lived in has been privately contracted out. They use their own vehicles and slap on a magnetic Australia post logo when on their delivery run. I was of the understanding that this was the situation at Kendall at the time WT went missing. Some one please correct me if I'm wrong.

I think you are right.

 

[Angeline]

Why 2 cars driving like that? Maybe someone who witnessed the abduction was in hot pursuit. dunno.

BBM. The same thing crossed my mind, which raises a whole heap of questions.

How would the chaser have known that he was witnessing an abduction? How would he be quick-thinking enough to know that the child was being abducted and chase the perp? All I can think is that the possible abductor (a woman?) was known to the chaser, and known to be capable of doing such a thing.

 

[bearbear]

All of a sudden you’ll see them everywhere

I swear I heard RC describe the colour as a ‘fawn or lighter than fawn’.

so more a light beige colour?
similar to the colour of this page?

 

[suspicious]

PS was all over the shop at the Inquest. Maybe he has dementia?
I doubt Chapman's witness testimony about an erratic driven vehicle with a small child in the back too. If the vehicle was driven so erratically with a small child in it unrestrained? that child would have lost its balance in the back. But whatever i guess.

These are my thoughts too.

 

[SouthAussie]

These are my thoughts too.

In the police walkthrough with Mr Chapman, I noticed that the direction that the speeding 4WD was coming from and the curve that it had just sped around would have meant that the standing child would have been pressed up against the window with the inertia of the turn. Probably why the child had his hands up against the window .. to brace himself, not to peer out.

It also means that the child would have been in the passenger side back seat area, for Mr Chapman to see his face.

(If the child fell down, it would have been after the speeding 4WD had completed its turn and straightened out, and the inertia had stopped. Mr Chapman was watching the 2nd car by then and the 1st vehicle was behind him.)


The more comprehensive walkthrough that BigT linked earlier is in this link ... about ½ way down the page.
Missing toddler inquest adjourned until 2020

 

[drsleuth]

so more a light beige colour?
similar to the colour of this page?

Just looked at my notes.

Mr Chapman initially said the colour of the " boxed 4WD " was fawn , he than went on to say it was more a beige colour as fawn was to dark.

 

[SouthAussie]

Just to add, like Laura Beacroft, I think Mr Chapman is a credible witness.

I am just not sure about his identification process. If the child was definitely William, if the vehicle was necessarily a Landcruiser.

 

[they'll get you]

BBM. The same thing crossed my mind, which raises a whole heap of questions.

How would the chaser have known that he was witnessing an abduction? How would he be quick-thinking enough to know that the child was being abducted and chase the perp? All I can think is that the possible abductor (a woman?) was known to the chaser, and known to be capable of doing such a thing.

Might’ve been simply road rage.

 

[SLouTh]

Mr Chapman didn’t actually say he heard the postie’s car..... if you listen carefully ...
He said he heard the sound of a letterbox closing.... his neighbor’s letterbox...

link here ... Missing toddler inquest adjourned until 2020

Also pretty sure he said the same thing in the walk thru interview...

I think this has been misinterpreted by some outlets to be - hearing the Postie’s car.... eg as Mr Crabb said...

Just a thought... MO ...

 

[SouthAussie]

Might’ve been simply road rage.

Yep, could have been road rage, or a domestic, or hoons larking about ....
There definitely are other scenarios that could have fit that whole scene.

 

[SouthAussie]

Mr Chapman didn’t actually say he heard the postie’s car..... if you listen carefully ...
He said he heard the sound of a letterbox closing.... his neighbor’s letterbox...

link here ... Missing toddler inquest adjourned until 2020

Also pretty sure he said the same thing in the walk thru interview...

I think this has been misinterpreted by some outlets to be - hearing the Postie’s car.... eg as Mr Crabb said...

Just a thought... MO ...

Not sure whose post you are responding to? Are you able to 'reply' to posts?

I have yet to see anywhere where Mr Chapman said he heard postie's car. Just that he thought he heard the click of the letterbox.

 

[Loxoli]

Mr Chapman didn’t actually say he heard the postie’s car..... if you listen carefully ...
He said he heard the sound of a letterbox closing.... his neighbor’s letterbox...

link here ... Missing toddler inquest adjourned until 2020

Also pretty sure he said the same thing in the walk thru interview...

I think this has been misinterpreted by some outlets to be - hearing the Postie’s car.... eg as Mr Crabb said...

Just a thought... MO ...

Oh, I didn’t realise that. That dampens the theory that RC and the Crabbs’ heard the same vehicle

 

[Loxoli]

Not sure whose post you are responding too? Are you able to 'reply' to posts'?

I have yet to see anywhere where Mr Chapman said he heard postie's car. Just that he thought he heard the click of the letterbox.

That could be my fault. I was under the impression that RC heard the postie’s car for some reason and alluded to this in earlier posts. Sorry about that.

 

[SouthAussie]

That could be my fault. I was under the impression that RC heard the postie’s car for some reason and alluded to this in earlier posts. Sorry about that.

No worries. Not your fault. I have been confused several times by SLouTh's posts, not sure who they were responding to. Thought I would ask the question.

I don't think this dampens the theory at all. Heard a vehicle at the Crabb's, saw a vehicle that may sound like the heard vehicle at Mr Chapman's. If that makes sense.

 

[kiwi50]

BBM. The same thing crossed my mind, which raises a whole heap of questions.

How would the chaser have known that he was witnessing an abduction? How would he be quick-thinking enough to know that the child was being abducted and chase the perp? All I can think is that the possible abductor (a woman?) was known to the chaser, and known to be capable of doing such a thing.

I’d like to hear more about caravan lady, and if she owns a car.

 

[Ms Kite]

I’d like to hear more about caravan lady, and if she owns a car.

I think we ALL would like to know more about Caravan Lady, Kiwi.

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere in this forum (and I'm sure it has been) but precisely where was her caravan purported to have been?

 

[SouthAussie]

I think we ALL would like to know more about Caravan Lady, Kiwi.

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere in this forum (and I'm sure it has been) but precisely where was her caravan purported to have been?

Were his walk maps posted here somewhere? I thought I saw a 'short walk' map and a 'long walk' map, somewhere. Not finding them in MSM (or here) at the moment.


On an aerial map of the stroll taken by Paul Savage each day, including the one on which William vanished, police charted his steps in a dotted red line.

The walk taken by Mr Savage, then aged 70 on September 12, 2014, shows he left his house — marked on the map with a giant red arrow — on Benaroon Drive, Kendall, opposite William’s foster grandmother’s home, and then went up a fire trail.

The detailed graphic showing Mr Savage’s journey around the village of Benaroon Drive in the tiny NSW Mid North Coast town of Kendall, presented at the Tyrrell inquest today, was almost like a scene out of the TV show Midsomer Murders.
Details of ‘deeply troubling’ police grilling of Tyrrell person of interest

 

[sleepinoz]

Talking about the car Mr Chapman saw.

In the video linked by SA, he says it was an Old Box Type Landcruiser beige in colour - at about 1 min in.

Missing toddler inquest adjourned until 2020

IMO it would be an old FJ40 series Landcruiser, they don't have back doors but they have side seats. A child could kneel on the side seats with his hands against the window, it just makes more sense to me.

fj40 landcruiser - Google Search

 

[Morrisa]

Talking about the car Mr Chapman saw.

In the video linked by SA, he says it was an Old Box Type Landcruiser beige in colour - at about 1 min in.

Missing toddler inquest adjourned until 2020

IMO it would be an old FJ40 series Landcruiser, they don't have back doors but they have side seats. A child could kneel on the side seats with his hands against the window, it just makes more sense to me.

fj40 landcruiser - Google Search

That is what I imagined too. My Dad had one in the late 80's. Diesel from memory, noisy,and very uncomfortable if sitting in the back seat!

 

[drsleuth]

SIX Maps

I think this is roughly PS's walk ( the red dotted line I have made ) earlier that morning where he stopped to talk to Lyn the caravan lady for approx 30mins. ( he apparently spoke to this women on his walks regularily?)

From memory I think the caravan was located in the bottom rt hand corner ( you can actually see a white something in the bushes??)........see second pic

I am hopeless with maps ..........sorry

I've had to resize the pics to up load here