Found Deceased AZ - Angela Tramonte, 31, hiking w/ off-duty LE, met on Instagram, Phoenix, 30 Jul 2021

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  1. mrsu

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    mrsu Well-Known Member

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    According to police, Fire crews were called out to a trail at Camelback Mountain at around 1:00 p.m., after receiving a missing hiker call.

    "The person who called 911 was an off-duty Phoenix Police officer, who informed the emergency operator that he and Ms. Tramonte had separated during a hike, and he could not find her," read a portion of the statement.

    "She was unsure of herself making it all the way to the top, and wanted to turn around and make it back to the parking lot," said Captain Rob McDade with the Phoenix Fire Department.

    According to Phoenix Police, neither Tramonte nor her companion had any water.

    "The witness also told officers, during the hike Ms. Tramonte decided to head back down the trail and asked him to continue to the top to take pictures so that she could share them on her social media. The pair agreed to meet later at the car," read a portion of the statement…

    Missing hiker identified after being found dead on edge of Camelback Mountain
     
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    imstilla.grandma Believer of Miracles

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    Her hiking companion Dario Dizdar claims to be her boyfriend. He has been employed as a cop with the Phoenix Police Department (PPD) since 2007, despite being disciplined for lying to Arizona police about his identity during a 2009 criminal investigation.

    According to internal PPD documents in 2020, Dizdar was previously disciplined and placed on a Maricopa County Attorney’s Office “Brady list” which tracks police officers with "integrity concerns" because of past misconduct.

    Not answering any direct questions, the PPD released a detailed timeline of events Monday evening:

    On July 30, 2021, at about 1:00 p.m., Phoenix Fire personnel responded to a trail at Camelback Mountain after receiving a 911 call reporting a hiker missing. The person who called 911 was an off-duty Phoenix Police officer, who informed the emergency operator that he and Ms. Tramonte had separated during a hike, and he could not find her. The initial search included over 30 fire personnel and the police helicopter.

    At 3:00 p.m., Phoenix Fire requested the assistance of Phoenix Police officers to help with search efforts. The witness told officers Ms. Tramonte and he began their hike around 10:00 a.m. and neither one of them had any water. The witness also told officers, during the hike Ms.Tramonte decided to head back down the trail and asked him to continue to the top to take pictures so that she could share them on her social media. The pair agreed to meet later at the car.

    At approximately 4:40 p.m., Ms. Tramonte was located off the Echo Canyon Trail, adjacent to a home, on the northeast side of Camelback Mountain. Phoenix Fire personnel responded and found her unresponsive, beyond resuscitative efforts and she was pronounced deceased. No traumatic injuries were observed during the initial investigation or discovered during the autopsy. Ms. Tramonte’s cellular phone was located on her when she was found.

    At this time there is no evidence to indicate foul play is suspected in connection with Ms. Tramonte’s tragic death. The City employee who was with Ms. Tramonte is a witness and is cooperating with investigators. He has been granted personal time off and has been offered resources to deal with this tragedy.
    UPDATE: Phoenix officer with history of lying is last person to see dead hiker alive - KYMA

    *Has Angela’s family receiving personal time off offered resources to deal with this tragedy too??
     
  6. alexwood

    alexwood Well-Known Member

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    Hiking with no water, when the temperature in Phoenix, AZ was 104F/40C degrees? Hiking with no cell phone? Just don't believe that she would do this. The timeline seems to be in question (IMO), based on these accounts from two different articles.

    [From The Daily Beast article, updated Aug. 3, 2021, 03:26 AM: Woman Dies in Arizona Desert After Hike With Cop Who Has History of Lying]
    "Dizdar began a hike with Tramonte on Friday afternoon, but kept going when Tramonte became tired and “overheated,” fire officials said in a news release. Later, Dizdar did not find Tramonte in the car, and called to report her missing. Her body was found hours later, and she was pronounced dead." [BBM = Bolded by Me]

    Saugus woman dies of heat-related illness on hike up Camelback Mountain in Phoenix, Arizona

    "A Boston-area woman is dead after suffering a heat-related illness during a hike in Arizona Friday evening." [BBM]

    “She worked out at 6 o'clock every morning. She was extremely fit, healthy, always with a gallon of water,” said friend Evelyn Doherty Terfiy. “She would never have gone anywhere without water and she never would have not been prepared.” [Underscored by Me]

    She would not have hiked with no water--and certainly would have brought her cell phone along if she had wanted to post pictures from her hike on social media. Now, I can't say that I've read that she didn't have her cell phone with her (haven't read every article), but I am just speculating that she did not have her phone with her on the hike. Otherwise, she would have called 9-1-1 if she was in need of help after becoming lost.

    No autopsy report has been released yet. The family is thinking about hiring a private investigator, according to the video [at 0:15] in this article: Saugus woman dies of heat-related illness on hike up Camelback Mountain in Phoenix, Arizona
     
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  7. Herat

    Herat Way out West

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    Something is so wrong with this.

    Who starts a hike in Phoenix at 10 am?

    Something also mentions that she didn't have proper footwear.

    This guy does not have a record that inspires confidence.

    My hinky-meter is on alert
     
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    imstilla.grandma Believer of Miracles

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    Phoenix police officer Dario Dizdar at the scene.
    Dario Dizdar

    Phoenix police identified Dizdar as a “witness” and said he was cooperating with the investigation.

    But friends have questioned the details of Tramonte’s death.

    “She supposedly walked back down the mountain ALONE to the car while this man continued on by himself. He clearly has no regard for her safety,” Melissa Buttaro wrote in a ***.

    “Angela lived a very healthy, active lifestyle. She woke up early every morning to go the gym. She did weekly meal planning and was obsessed with drinking water. She also loved walking her dog Dolce every day. There are many inconsistencies in the timeline and facts that just don’t make any sense.”

    Another friend, Stacey Gerardi, similarly questioned why Dizdar would have just left Tramonte behind if she was having medical issues.

    “As a cop, as a first responder, you’re supposed to help people. If somebody’s walking up a mountain and you’re seeing her in distress and she’s not feeling well and she’s exhausted — why wouldn’t you walk her back down,” she told WBZ4. “Why would you continue to walk back up? It doesn’t make sense.”
    No foul play suspected in death of Boston woman hiking in Phoenix with cop she just met, say police
     
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    This is so weird.

    She flies across the country to visit this guy in Phoenix.

    In July's heat they decide to go hiking.

    Neither takes water.

    Rather than being together, he goes on alone on a hike he has most likely done before.
     
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    Did she have the car keys with her? Unless she was planning to get in the car and start up the air conditioning, going back to the parking lot might not help her much.
     
  13. Defendress

    Defendress look for the helpers

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    So, her phone was found on her? She sounds like a person that would call for help.
     
  14. AzPistonsGirl

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    Local here. Lots of people do hike at 10am here. I don't, but super avid hikers (I am just a regualr avid hiker) and folks who are used to the heat here do indeed hike then. Now, having said that, both Camelback and Piestewa Peak (a similar hike in the same general area) are closed between 11am-5pm over the next few days due to heat advisory. This closure was prompted by first responders, who are getting hurt doing these rescues every day.

    Hikers respond to heat-caused Camelback Mountain closures

    https://www.abc15.com/news/region-p...cted-tuesday-and-wednesday-for-excessive-heat

    ETA: not sure how far she had gotten, but coming back down is no easy feat either.
     
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    and there are signs at the trailhead telling hikers how much water they need to have. And last time I was there, there were firefighters at the trailhead handing out water and bananas and talking to folks arriving to hike about the dangers... No way anyone would attempt to hike Camelback without water right now. I just am not buying that. Maybe they consumed whatever they had taken?
     
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    Very suspicious! I would guess the time of death would tell a lot. I hope I am not violating any rules when I hypothesize that she could have been killed at another location, then placed in the area she was found. The hiking senerio then followed.
     
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    Please know I am not casting suspicions in any direction, just sharing thoughts and insight.
     
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    Mine, too. What first responder, who knows Arizona weather, goes on a hike without water? Makes no sense.
     
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    Great point!
     
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    I don't think she ever went on a hike. I think something happened after her arrival on Thursday. Things were not "working out" to her satisfaction. (IMO)
     

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