Found Deceased AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #10

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  1. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) - Tucson police are searching for a 6-year-old girl who went missing from her home on the city's east side.

    Isabel Mercedes Celis was last seen late Friday and discovered to be missing at about 8 a.m. Saturday.

    Sgt. Maria Hawke says police are searching the area around East Broadway Boulevard and Craycroft Road using street patrols, canines, detectives and a helicopter.

    She's described as just under 4-feet-tall and weighing 44 pounds, with brown hair and hazel eyes.
    Snipped: http://www.kswt.com/story/17650000/tucson-police-search-for-missing-6-year-old-girl

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    remember: anything posted in the scanner thread stays on the scanner thread.

    Full news coverage:http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/

    Local Media:
    http://www.kgun9.com/
    http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/category/237578/missing-isabel
    http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/
    http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/subindex/news/local/tucson
    http://azstarnet.com/

    Find Isabel Celis Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/FindIsabelCelis
    new website for Isabel Celis:http://bringisahome.com/
     
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  3. LisaB

    LisaB New Member

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    Re: Cameras

    Hey... could you ask about the mixup with the video they provided LE? I still don't believe it was from the night AFTER her disappearance.
     
  4. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Be nosey!!!!

    Her FB posts since the disappearance are heartbreaking.

    Very smart thought!

    Oh my gosh, so many things I can't count. How about photos all around Isabel's house - like all around the perimeter and then from her house facing out on each side that you can get to, so we see from the view of the house, what it looks like.

    Also, a photo of where the lurker in the video was.

    And photos of the park where Isabel's family was that night - the fields, the stands and the parking lot and if you can get one, a photo showing the distance from the stands to the parking lot or street where cars could be parked. Also, any area in the park where someone could be and observe the stands but not be too visible. TIA!!!!!!!

    Very intelligent post.
     
  5. liltexans

    liltexans Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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  6. mrsu

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    I know we don't know this for sure, but if it's true that Isa normally slept with her brother(s)...does anyone else find it odd that a 6yo girl would sleep with a 10 or 14yo brother? I only have girls so I don't know if that would be normal or not??
     
  7. mck16

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    I do not think it is odd that siblings sleep with each other or in the same room. And just think if she had been sleeping with her brothers that night,she would still be with us. jmo
     
  8. liltexans

    liltexans Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I agree with you and I hope this isn't about to turn into another parenting debate. Neither side is going to convince the other. JMO
     
  9. LisaB

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    At first I thought it was so the male cousin who NG indicated had stayed with them at some time would have a room to use (hers)...

    But it is a toss-up whether I'd have the male adult guest bunk in with my sons, or have my daughter do so. If (like in the case across town) they had set up a little "pup tent" for her in their room while the cousin used her room, it would seem okay (though not ideal) for her to be sleeping there.
     
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    We don't know if it is true that she normally slept with brothers...only NG has said that. But if she did and did not that night...wondering why...
     
  11. mck16

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    I can't believe the first thing on people's mind is incest. It is nuts. I have 3 sons who have 6 neices and nephews and to suggest that because they are their uncles they would molest and even do worse to them is really making me mad. My gosh, this is family. I am sorry that some have had bad experiences, but that is not the norm. In my family we are all protective of each other. To even think of another family member sexually is beyond my comprehension. I think we as outsiders should at least give the family the benefit of the doubt. I think speculation is getting out of hand. jmo
     
  12. Patty G

    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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    We really do NOT know if Isa actually slepted in the same room as her brothers. This information is only coming from HLN. IIRC, when a caller asked HLN about the sleeping arrangements, it came back as "there is a report out there".
     
  13. katydid23

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    I find it a little odd. When my DD was 6 her big brother was 10. And if we were on a road trip or something I would sometimes lay them down together.

    And also, if she was scared at night she sometimes went across the hall to his room and slept on his big comfy stuffed chair because she had nightmares sometimes if they watched scary shows. She didn't like coming to our room because she had to go down the entire hall past the scary bathroom closets to get our room. lol

    But as a general rule, I would never think to put a little girl to sleep each night with an older brother.
     
  14. Wyle_E_Coyote

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    When I was a preschooler, I thought it was the greatest thing in the world to sleep in my big brother's room. He was 11.5 years older than me, so when I was four he was 15/16. He had bunk beds, and he would take the top bunk with me in the bottom bunk. I remember waking up with nightmares and he would comfort me (snakes... I remember the nightmare to this day).

    He died when I was six. This is one of the few memories I have of him.


    We have all boys, but when they transitioned to real beds we intentionally got them full size beds instead of twin beds, so they could sleep together if they wanted. One has a full size bunk bed - THAT was hard to find! Again, so all three of them could sleep together if they wanted.
     
  15. cluciano63

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    MANY posters here have reported being abused by uncles and other relatives...it is not that unusual, unfortunately...
     
  16. mck16

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    What if you were a single mother and there were only two rooms for your 5 children to sleep in. Would it matter if brothers and sisters slept in the same room. I don't think so. Children are not having sexual thoughts at that age. It is obvious the adults are though. jmo
     
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    What if you were a single mother and there were only two rooms for your 5 children to sleep in. Would it matter if brothers and sisters slept in the same room. I don't think so. Children are not having sexual thoughts at that age. It is obvious the adults are though. jmo
     
  18. thefragile7393

    thefragile7393 Chronically sleep deprived

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    So far I'm not seeing anything weird about cousin/uncle (What IS he!?!?). His previous record looks unremarkable...prob because of what I see on a daily basis. of course many people who do horrid things don't have a prior record either but until I hear of something
    solid I'm keeping innocense first..especially since our own media isn't reporting it. I've lost a lot of respect for NG and even JVM somewhat.....I think NG is good for some things but the way they just throw ppl under the bus (NG more so) is disgusting. Don't know why it took me so long to figure it out.
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  19. mck16

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    It is in the circle of my friends. I have never heard of it in my family. It is unfortunate that it has happened to others, but I don't think it is the norm or I don't believe it is that unusal. jmo
     
  20. Patty G

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    Boys get very curious and "aroused" at fairly young age, and by 14 ... well they know a heck of a lot!
     
  21. katydid23

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    "Incest has been cited as the most common form of child abuse. Studies conclude that 43 percent (43%) of the children who are abused are abused by family members, 33 percent (33%) are abused by someone they know, and the remaining 24 percent (24%) are sexually abused by strangers (Hayes, 1990). Other research indicates that over 10 million Americans have been victims of incest."

    http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32360

    According to statistics, MOST child abuse consists of some type of incest.

    I am sorry that it makes you mad, but if we are going to assume that Isabel was a victim of sexual assault, there is a rational reason to consider the very real possibility of insist.
     
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