Found Deceased AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #20

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  1. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    Please continue here.

    Please remember TOS.

    Please do not discuss the minor children in an accusatory nature. They are victims of this situation and should be treated as such, unless LE tells us differently.

    Please remember that theories and speculation are welcome, but they must be based in reality. ALSO - if you don't happen to agree with a theory, that's fine, BUT don't be condescending or tell those who are kicking the theory around, how to post.

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  2. Patty G

    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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  3. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    Please continue here.

    Salem
     
  4. GutFeeling!

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    Thanks Salem - you're a gem

    ....... and you too Patty.
     
  5. FrayedKnot

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    I THINK JQP was trying to come up with a scenario to explain the LE visits to the Celis home about the same time as the warrants were served on JM.

    I'm not totally sure, but I think it was theorizing.
     
  6. gliving

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    Packet 2 page 71- list of persons called by Becky and Sergio when Isa is first missing.
     
  7. spoiledmom

    spoiledmom Verified Insider

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    In pdf 5 A woman who claims to be the Celis's sister in law called police and informed them that she believes Isa's disappearance is related to a 175,000 loan that Sergio received from her employer. They could not identify the woman on the payroll and employer denies this.
     
  8. mamamia54

    mamamia54 Inactive

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    From article - Grandfather & Uncle
     

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  9. txanmom

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    I admit I haven't finished reading yet, plus trying to play chase with all of you quickies out there, lol...

    But, do we now have 3 different versions of events by SC? :what:

    I think based on the size of the blackout, that one of the son's have ADHD/ADD.
     
  10. time

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    Packet 5, pg 55

    Reporting same info since I think it is of interest:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by time [​IMG]
    I can never go through any thing in a linear manner from begining to end ... so, packet 5 (5.12), it appears a man went into Famous Footwear at the mall. The woman working there thought he was acting like he was going to steal something and like he was high. He saw Isa's flyer and started talking about her disappearance and said he was ????'s uncle.

    He said the parents didn't do anything to her and that the situation hits close to home because he has children. He said that a guy who was staying with the family owed someone a lot of money and that is why she was taken. He bought a pair of shoes. Security etc. followed him out and he got into a large with truck with big wheels and a lift.

    He came back to do and exchange. Name on coupon was Danny Cline - LE contacted him and he denied making the statement the store clerk claimed he made and said he hardly knows the (Celis) family, but his fiancee is related to them. He had heard rumors JM was staying with the family and owes someone money.

    Danny threatened LE with gun because they were looking around!

    JM doesn't have job, female cousin (?) thinks he is dealing drugs, and he did live with Celis till recently (4/23 is date of interview)

    More about it in attachment

    <mostly paraphrased by me>



    Forgot to ad JM moved from Florida 6 months ago.

    And the woman who is related is Justin's niece, not cousin.
     

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    Page 62 of PDF 2 notes that RR Isa's uncle walked up to the scene, so this is the uncle who lives in the neighborhood.
     
  14. mamamia54

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    I'm thinking so, or mighty close to it, I need to go get the address.
     
  15. Patty G

    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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    A thread could be started here:

    Missing! Timeline Forum and Media links

    And perhaps name it:
    AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 Media & Document Dump (No Discussion)

    The key would be to make it No Discussion, just a safe place for media links, document dumps, timelines and things of that sort, and add information that seems to be a "red flag", etc. etc.
     
  16. Prof

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    Can you elaborate on your question?
    I do not see three versions. I see one in the reports that matches up with what we had before, just added detail
     
  17. Prof

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    Great idea. Are you able to do that?
     
  18. time

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    Packet 5, pg 58

    Says these cars were at the house/photographed: Lexus, Hyundai, Toyota Corolla, Acura. Not sure of any importance?
     
  19. Dum-Dum Sucker

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    What was the cell phone belonging to Becky's brother doing in the map pocket of the immobile car?
     
  20. mamamia54

    mamamia54 Inactive

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    No the uncle lives at East Blacklidge, and that across town, more than a few blocks.
     
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