AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 9

[Pensfan]

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/04/30/jvm-sexual-assault-near-celis-home




*wondering how this guy broke into the house? was it thru the window?*

I wonder how the little girls managed to give such an excellent description of his face and his clothing. Did he enter their grandparent's home and turn on the bedroom light at 2:00 am?

 

[Thinkzerz]

Where can I read that LE stated "the search for this guy is 10 miles"? All that I can find is the assault is 10 miles from where Isa lives.

I thought someone posted that early on closed thread. Sorry i don't remember where i read or heard that. I guess i will make sure i have links before posting.

 

[gliving]

IMO, I am not sure how the 3 young children were able to describe the age of this man as being in his 20's. Most children would go higher in age when describing an adult.

Three girls from Hawaii sexually assaulted in Arizona

The girls and their mother arrived from Hawaii several days ago to visit the girls' grandparents.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...rls-from-hawaii-sexually-assaulted-in-arizona

Based on mother with children visiting grandparents, it appears to me that there were at least 3 adults in this home.

Just odd that one of the children didn't scream out, out of fear.

It's so odd that that little girls just arrived to visit their grandparents. It seems it would a perp local to the area or how would he know three little girls were inside the home?

I don't think this guy just enters random homes looking for children. He knows they are there.

 

[Prof]

I wonder how the little girls managed to give such an excellent description of his face and his clothing. Did he enter their grandparent's home and turn on the bedroom light at 2:00 am?

They say the grandparents called 911 at that time.

10 year old told mother that a man was in the house.

Mon alerted grandparents and they called 911 at 2 am

The sherrif believes that he may have walked in from a desert area nearby.
There is evidence to suggest this.
From Patty's video link
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...rls-from-hawaii-sexually-assaulted-in-arizona


This is so scary... It's so possibly related.
I hope they're doing a massive search of the desert area now.

 

[LisaB]

Zuckerscnecke mentioned that:

leap year would make today April 30th, show up as May 1st. When in fact because of the extra day, it's only the 30th.

Is that reversed? I think so. Instead of showing Feb 29, it would have shown March 1. It would have been a day AHEAD. not a day BEHIND. So something that was date stamped 4/21 would contain the recording for 4/20 instead. If they got a tape they thought was from Saturday, and the "issue" was the date not being revised for leap year, they would have obtained footage from THURSDAY into FRIDAY, NOT SATURDAY into SUNDAY.

 

[Anita Richman]

I wonder how the little girls managed to give such an excellent description of his face and his clothing. Did he enter their grandparent's home and turn on the bedroom light at 2:00 am?

Here is a link to the story in our local paper this morning: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/cri...cle_a136df76-4d53-5a7f-b59b-a47564f883d8.html

"There was a verbal exchange between the 10-year-old and the suspect where the child had the presence of mind to challenge the suspect," Kastigar said. "The suspect left and the child reported to her mother that there was a man in the house."

 

[Isabelle]

IMO, I am not sure how the 3 young children were able to describe the age of this man as being in his 20's. Most children would go higher in age when describing an adult.

Three girls from Hawaii sexually assaulted in Arizona

The girls and their mother arrived from Hawaii several days ago to visit the girls' grandparents.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...rls-from-hawaii-sexually-assaulted-in-arizona

Based on mother with children visiting grandparents, it appears to me that there were at least 3 adults in this home.

Just odd that one of the children didn't scream out, out of fear.

Curious to know if the perp left any DNA?

 

[ehough22]

Here is a link that states "So dozens of deputies swarmed the area --interviewing neighbors on the street -- and canvassing the area up to a 10 miles radius."

http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/149611455.html

 

[pieper4]

IMO, I am not sure how the 3 young children were able to describe the age of this man as being in his 20's. Most children would go higher in age when describing an adult.

Three girls from Hawaii sexually assaulted in Arizona

The girls and their mother arrived from Hawaii several days ago to visit the girls' grandparents.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...rls-from-hawaii-sexually-assaulted-in-arizona

Based on mother with children visiting grandparents, it appears to me that there were at least 3 adults in this home.

Just odd that one of the children didn't scream out, out of fear.

6,8 and 10... and the 10 year old did engage/challenge. I'll find the article and post.

Ten Mile Radius:http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/149611455.html

Exchange between child and intruder: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/law-order-briefs/article_a136df76-4d53-5a7f-b59b-a47564f883d8.html

 

[Prof]

It's so odd that that little girls just arrived to visit their grandparents. It seems it would a perp local to the area or how would he know three little girls were inside the home?

I don't think this guy just enters random homes looking for children. He knows they are there.

That is odd, yes.
He could have spotted them visiting some local attraction and followed them home, since they are visiting. He could have been a transient in the area, too, as LE seems to think by this story.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...rls-from-hawaii-sexually-assaulted-in-arizona

 

[Anita Richman]

I don't think the two are related other than the news of Isa's disappearance has emboldened another area pedophile. The eyeglasses in the sketch of the suspect look like military issue to me. The haircut, as well.

 

[Anita Richman]

6,8 and 10... and the 10 year old did engage/challenge. I'll find the article and post.

Pieper, I posted a link.

 

[galiuro]

The video with the 6th person would not have shown the police tape, it was below the level of the wall..but how he was back there with cops swarming the place, now that is a question...

The 10 mile search radius for the new assault would prolly NOT include Isabel's house, her school likely, house too far away

 

[Patty G]

Pima County deputies are hunting for a man believed to be preying on young children. Right now, investigators do not believe this guy has anything to do with isabel Celis's disappearance. But at this point -- nothing is being ruled out.

I can tell you than detectives are pursuing some interesting information that has come into us," said deputy Richard Kastigar.


http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/149611455.html

 

[PAXIMUS]

New Rules on Sex Offenders and Rumors - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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So rumors can be posted as long as I am a local and state it is a rumor? Cool.

 

[Patty G]

Knowing me, if my older child runs in to tell me an intruder is in the house, and knowing my 2 younger children were left alone in the room with the intruder, I would be busting into the bedroom holding a frying pan and calling 911.


ETA: I may have read the article wrong as it appears the older child challenged the intruder then the intruder left and then she contacted her mother.

 

[liltexans]

Pima County deputies are hunting for a man believed to be preying on young children. Right now, investigators do not believe this guy has anything to do with isabel Celis's disappearance. But at this point -- nothing is being ruled out.

I can tell you than detectives are pursuing some interesting information that has come into us," said deputy Richard Kastigar.


http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/149611455.html

This article is from yesterday. Have there been any updates yet today?

 

[Anita Richman]

This article is from yesterday. Have there been any updates yet today?

I linked the azstarnet.com article from this morning. Basically the same info.

 

[liz b.]

I don't think the two are related other than the news of Isa's disappearance has emboldened another area pedophile. The eyeglasses in the sketch of the suspect look like military issue to me. The haircut, as well.

I doubt that the incidents are related also. And I agree on the haircut and eyeglasses. MOO

 

[Anita Richman]

Knowing me, if my older child runs in to tell me an intruder is in the house, and knowing my 2 younger children were left alone in the room with the intruder, I would be busting into the bedroom holding a frying pan and calling 911.

According to the article, the 10 year old had a verbal interaction with him and challenged him, whereby he fled. THEN she alerted her mom about the man.