CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #8

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  1. Curiousobserver

    Curiousobserver Well-Known Member

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    Yes- add this to the list of things that are very common and we don't know if they happened. Perhaps this was the thing he was being deceptive about?
     


  2. LietKynes

    LietKynes "What do you despise? By this you are truly known"

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    Bumping this forward to save it. This is important.
     
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  3. LietKynes

    LietKynes "What do you despise? By this you are truly known"

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    Thanks, @Kapua !

    There is no way she took a wrong turn.
     
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  4. dbdb11

    dbdb11 Verified Family Member Barbara Thomas Case

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    i can only speculate on motive. LE asked me the same thing...

    if you want i can imagine a bunch of different motives for you. most have already been brought up in previous threads.

    the timing of the whole thing is most suspect, imo.

    in RT's own words (in a private email)

    "it could have happened anytime."

    that is not even thinly veiled imo. this mf has his ducks in a line, and feels he could have gotten away with it whenever he wanted.
     
  5. Kapua

    Kapua Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. And there are no trees under which to seek shade.
     
  6. dbdb11

    dbdb11 Verified Family Member Barbara Thomas Case

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    abandoned is even more probable than abducted imo.
     
  7. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Crime Addict

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    Oops, my error. Trying to do too much at one time. Thanks for pointing that out.
     
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  8. Blue Ridge

    Blue Ridge Armchair Detective

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    Wow..........


     
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  9. Reasonable & Just

    Reasonable & Just United We Stand

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    Understood, and thank you. The reason I ask, is that if another party is involved, money would likely be a motive. "Simple" DV is a personal thing as far as I know (except in gangs or cults). The only other situations I can think of involve custody fights, which wasn't an issue here.
     
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  10. CSIDreamer

    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    Just my opinion:

    I'm not convinced in the slightest an MLM had anything to do with this. There are gazillions of MLMs with gazillions of annoying pushy salespeople signed up with them. If you look around, you'll find "dirt" on a lot of them.
     
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  11. AzPistonsGirl

    AzPistonsGirl Detroit to the Bone

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    I have no doubt that LE continues to work Barbara's case. Please don't think for a second that this has gone cold.
     
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  13. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    What was he referring to when he said "it"? Her disappearance, a kidnapping, a murder?
    It's hard to interpret the meaning of the words without knowing the context of the conversation.
     
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  14. TGIRecovered

    TGIRecovered Well-Known Member

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    We Websleuths notice details like that. Certain personality types just assume that they will be believed. Maybe the original story didn’t include a cup of beer. That detail might have been thrown in for good measure as an afterthought, to “strengthen “ the narrative.: “Scantily clad elderly woman on her own in the desert with a beer in the morning just wandered off.” Trying to make her sound flighty and foolish and definitely not his responsibility, once she left.
    MOO!

    Arrogant people make careless mistakes because the thought never occurs to them that their story has holes in it.
    MOO again.
     
  15. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Yes, in many cases there are obvious signs from the start.
    But in this case there are no obvious holes in the story.
    If there were, LE would have noticed right from the start.
    It seems we are still right where we were in the beginning. Still no evidence of a crime and no sign of Barbara. Imo
     
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    campbellsouup Well-Known Member

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    biting my tongue.

    Anyways, I don't buy into any abduction scenario here - but crazy things do happen in the badlands of our border states so you can never rule it out completely IMO.

    also, I don't think the MLM had anything to do with this either.
     
  17. TGIRecovered

    TGIRecovered Well-Known Member

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    I was replying to a post that brought up the question of why wouldn’t he have” planted”
    the missing cup if this was staged. There is no evidence that Barbara was ever at the place he says she went missing from. No scent. No picture. No hat, boot, scrap of clothing or blood.
     
  18. dbdb11

    dbdb11 Verified Family Member Barbara Thomas Case

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    If this wasn't public I'd give more context.
     
  19. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    Just gathering and summarizing the recent thoughts and opinions of @dbdb11...

    Barbara did not wander the wrong way by accident.

    RT was not always the mellow upstanding guy he currently appears to be.

    RT is telling the truth that LE called him deceptive on the polygraph.
    Barbara did not get lost at the end of their stroll.

    ETA: Deleted erroneous understanding of @dbdb11 post about Hong Kong.

    RT feels he could have gotten away with whatever happened anytime.

    It’s more likely Barbara was abandoned than abducted.
     
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  20. bronbaby

    bronbaby Well-Known Member

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    we are rooting for you and your family @dbdb11. may Barbara be found and justice be served.
     
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