CA CA/IA - What Do Michaela Joy Garecht & Johnny Gosch have in common ?

Discussion in '1980's Missing' started by JaneInOz, Feb 15, 2009.

  1. JaneInOz

    JaneInOz Former Member

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    :eek:

    I cant believe this , Im doing some googling and research into a few different cases and I happened across this and I am gobsmacked. Ive stopped doing what I was doing to post this
    Im not mad am I ? Do you see what I see ?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/181dfca.html - the case of Michaela Joy Garecht
    Abducted
    Please look at the Doe Network link Ive provided above for the sketch of abductor

    THEN

    http://www.johnnygosch.com/

    Johnny gosch's Mother writes

    Michaela Joy Garecht
    Missing since November 19, 1988 from Hayward, Alameda County, California.
    Abducted 1988



    Johnny Gosch kidnapped 9/5/82

    But the 88 sketch is the same as the 82 sketch

    What is going on ?
     
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  3. Seahorseladydi

    Seahorseladydi Member

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    I am seeing what you are seeing..

    here are the pics... I saved them to my photobucket....

    Johnny Gosch POI
    [​IMG]
    I have followed Johnny's case for a long time..... I see this is 'new' information:
    (I didn't post the second picture of this POI)
    snipped from The Johnny Gosch foundation website:
    http://www.johnnygosch.com/

    Here is the POI in Michaela Joy Garecht case:

    [​IMG]

    See the decription is the SAME!

    I know there is a HUGE "market" for children out there... but it is amazing this guy would travel that far .... makes you wonder how many others he took.....

    GREAT catch by the way!
     
  4. DotsEyes

    DotsEyes Former Member

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    These look like the same guy to me.

    GOOD CATCH!

    Are you going to send this to LE?
     
  5. neechi

    neechi New Member

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    One of the descriptions notes that he's wanted in the abduction of at least 4 other children. I've been trying to find the other names he's linked to, but so far no luck.
     
  6. JaneInOz

    JaneInOz Former Member

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    Hi all

    Im afraid that I cant - I havent a clue who to contact

    Would someone Please do this ? Someone who lives in the USA and is used to doing submissions of things etc ?

    This was me googling another couple of cases and going from one place to another to another to another and then I thought WAIT A MINUTE - I just saw that face earlier today

    I have read up on the Johnny case before but before his mother posted that photo

    Im stunned
     
  7. SuziQ

    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    I think that one of the other four cases she's talking about is Michaela's and that's where she got the pic. In her mind she's made a connection when there probably isn't one. I haven't been to Johnny's website for awhile, but is this one operated by his mother?

    I have followed Johnny's case forever and FYI, his mom has linked everyone to Johnny's case. IMO, She's a very sad desperate case.
     
  8. Kimster

    Kimster Former Member

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    HOLY COW! Is anyone sending this to LE?

    ITA, EXCELLENT catch!
     
  9. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    There's an explaination for the two pictures somewhere in the Johnny Gosch threads in the cold case forum. Sorry I'm unable to add a link due to computer problems. I know it's been discussed here already....
     
  10. JaneInOz

    JaneInOz Former Member

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    Can you find the thread and PM me where it is please

    Thanks..






    Suzi, so is the Johnny G case true or not ? Ive also followed it for a while because I was like OMG I cant believe this can happen and the mother was so intent and intense about everything and for such a very long time.

    There is also this case Tara Leigh Calico

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/calico_tara.html

    There is this thread on WS about it.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1003776#post1003776

    This is also a scary and sad case, what makes it the most upsetting is that both Tara's parents have since died , although her Step father is still alive which would be nice if he could see it solved.
     
  11. pixies

    pixies Former Member

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    Johnny's mother used the picture of Michaela's kidnapper as a "new lead" in her sons case or something like that. I thought it was proven to be false.
     
  12. MagicRose99

    MagicRose99 Watch out for my thorns!

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  13. SuziQ

    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    Jane, IIRC, pretty near everything besides the actual abduction has been debunked. According the everyone in LE on up to the Feds that is. Also, the pics supposedly of Johnny being tied up was the latest and that was debunked as well.

    ETA: So what's left is a conspiracy theory. I had to step away from the case because it was painful to watch Noreen. This poor lady needs closure...badly.
     
  14. newshound81

    newshound81 New Member

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    I just looked on the mother's Web site and I'm pretty sure the second picture is of Timothy Bindner, who was a suspect in Michaela's case and the cases of a few other California girls. I have the book about those cases, Stalemate, at home, and it has pictures of Michaela's alleged abductor and Bindner, because at the time LI thought they looked very similar. I will look at it tonight to confirm.
     
  15. thefragile7393

    thefragile7393 Chronically sleep deprived

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    Dr. Doogie was doing some work on this case....I say ask him. The #4 thread hasn't been updated in a while...not sure if he's found out anything new or not.
     
  16. Seahorseladydi

    Seahorseladydi Member

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    Thanks for the updates everyone!

    I have read alot about Johnny's case.... have always thought it was strange that mom (Noreen) would post and not "seem" upset over the photos of "HER" son..... IDK.... just my opinion...
     
  17. BeavisMom62

    BeavisMom62 No, Butthead is NOT here!!

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    I guess she's not upset because for one it was what, 25 years ago? And two, she seems to believe he is still alive, even says that he visited her once years ago. Now she thinks that he escaped from the "ring" but is in hiding or something and in fear for his life. I'm not sure what I feel about Noreen. The website that she set up is certainly disturbing but she sure does have alot of detractors. I tried to read our threads here, but there is too much bad feelings over there, conspiracy theorists, etc. It gets heated over there. But not Dr. Doogie, he always keeps his cool and he is one smart cookie! I respect and admire him.

    Thats pretty freaky about those pictures though.
     
  18. JaneInOz

    JaneInOz Former Member

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    Hmmmmm

    I have a lot spinning in my mind about this.

    I am one who believes *some* conspiracy theories Or shall I put it this way I have a open mind
    You would be suprised at what I Think about, put it this way enough to type something out and then delete it all , Just in case, just in case any of what is said is true in anyway, referring to various things ...

    So the pictures are supposed to be fake ? Suzi Q ? as in who would take them ? or is that a real boy but not Johnny ?

    I thought one of the other boys was confirmed in the photo of 3 ?

    And yes BeavisMom I read also that he apparently escaped and saw her but went back in fear....

    I was just shocked that there i was googling away and reading up on missing persons and saw a photo and then saw another photo some hours later of the SAME person as being an abductor.
     
  19. BeavisMom62

    BeavisMom62 No, Butthead is NOT here!!

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    That is VERY strange that those two pics are identical! I wonder if someone made a mistake somewhere or something?

    What's weird, is I KNOW that I have been to both Noreen's site and also read about Michaela and had to have seen both pictures, but I obviously didn't see them on the same day. I have a bad memory but I would have remembered something like that!
     
  20. JaneInOz

    JaneInOz Former Member

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    So Beavis did The mum just pluck that guys sketched pic out of someone elses and use it :eek: is that what people are getting at ?

    Or is this just a bizarre twist
     
  21. Seahorseladydi

    Seahorseladydi Member

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    wow, I have done alot of reading the past few days.....

    I think Mom (Noreen) may have read up about this person and posted it on her site... just my opinion ..... this person is a POI in 4 or 5 other cases.....

    Also, there is a picture of another boy on Noreens site... It says Unknown boy... I posted it in the un-id' section here.... but now I am not sure I should have..... I have looked at tons of missing boys from that time period, none match..... but it sounds like you are hinting maybe it is a hoax? WTH? why on earth would someone do that? maybe I just don't understand....
     

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