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CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #11

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  1. smr

    smr Former Member

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    Did they explain why the Day 26 video has not been out yet?
     
  2. mrjitty

    mrjitty Well-Known Member

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    Just a note that each piece of circumstantial evidence does not need to be proven BARD

    BARD is just the overall standard of proof at trial.
     
  3. Force Ten

    Force Ten Well-Known Member

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    No, I do not know him personally. The relevance is that it was recorded not long before Merritt was arrested. It doesn't reflect someone with a severe heart condition who has "months left to live".
     
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    mrjitty Well-Known Member

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    When they wrote the book on prejudicial evidence they had this video in mind!
     
  5. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    One thing I find relevant is that in 2014, the defendant was quite capable physically, of digging a deep hole in the desert. And he had been saying, after his arrest, that he was very ill and his heart was so bad that he could barely live long enough for the trial to begin.
     
  6. smr

    smr Former Member

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    I see. How did you know it's Merritt? (It looks like him, but there is no name shown)
     
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    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    It is Merritt. That was the gold mining company he was working for, trying to sell that contraption. And he admits that is him.
     
  8. smr

    smr Former Member

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    When and where was he asked about this by whom? Any link?
     
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    Force Ten Well-Known Member

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    Come on, it's unmistakable that it's Merritt. Left handed to boot. I found it by searching Triple Threat Washer because he supposedly designed the unit. There are several other pictures out there to support it's him. He worked for Keene and he's wearing their shirt.
     
  10. mothwings

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    If L&C don't get around to uploading their archival for day 27, I'll upload my screen recording of it. I was able to get it all to play without buffering. All you have to do before it reaches the end of the stream is go back to the beginning. I was able to capture all of it. But seriously, I can't believe CNN or other true crime related channels don't want to stream this. It's a huge case! There aren't even many articles from local reporters showing on Google News and every trial I've seen always has news articles after every court day.
     
  11. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Monday, March 5th - Update.
    *Trial continues (Day 27) (@ 9:30am PT) - CA - McStay Family: Joseph (40), Summer (43), Gianni (4) & Joey Jr (3) (Feb. 4, 2010, Fallbrook; found Nov. 11, 2013) - *Charles "Chase" Ray Merritt (57/now 60) arrested (11/5/14) & indicted (11/7/14) of 4 counts of murder with special circumstance; plead not guilty. DP case.
    12 jurors & 6 alternates were finalized on Tuesday (12/11/18). 8 women & 4 men, while the alternates include 4 men & 2 women. Trial started 1/7/19. Dark on Fridays.
    Skipping Day 1 (1/7/19) thru 6 (1/15/19) – reference post #1180 here: CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #2
    Skipping Day 7 (1/16/19) thru 11 (1/24/19) – reference post #1119 here: CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #3
    Skipping Day 12 (1/28/19) thru 14 (1/31/19) - reference post #217 here: CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #5
    Skipping Day 15 (2/5/19) thru 17 (2/7/19) - reference post #648 here: CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #6
    Skipping Day 18 (2/13/19) thru Day 20 (2/19/19) - reference post #6 here: CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #8
    Skipping Day 21 (2/20/19) thru Day 23 (2/25/19 - reference post #128 here: CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #9
    2/26/19 Day 24: States witness: FBI Special Agent Kevin Boles on cross exam. Det. Edward Bachman (recalled to stand). Trial continues to 2/27 will only have morning session as a juror has a prior commitment.
    2/27/19 Day 25: A juror had a personal issue this morning (alternate juror #5 took his wife to the hospital with chest pains) and since court was only scheduled for the morning, the judge cancelled the trial for today. However, Judge, attorneys are in court (different courtroom) for a hearing. Hearing has started. Defense filed a motion yesterday to exclude jail conversations Merritt may have had w/family & friends while in custody. Sgt. Ryan Smith is on the stand. Hearing happened without jury present. San Bernardino County has been recording jailhouse visits from earlier this month with Merrit's family/friends using a digital recorder. Merritt had stopped using the jail phone that's monitored. Merritt had been talking through the glass at visits, avoiding the phone. Cathy Jarvis - Merritt's girlfriend at the time of the murders - her name was specifically mentioned by Sgt. Ryan Smith as to Ryan placing recording devices in visiting area. Prosecutor Daugherty: We have evidence Charles Merritt attempted to sway Catherine Jarvis's upcoming testimony. Judge denies defense motion to exclude the recordings. They WILL be played for the jury at some point. Catherine Jarvis will testify for the defense. Trial continues to 2/28.

    2/28/18 Day 26: State witnesses: Sgt. Ryan Smith. Det. Jason Schroeder recalled to stand. Prosecution asking to publish a portion of CNN interview on YouTube with Merritt. Judge is going to allow it. Prosecution disclosed a new witness late last night. Eugene Liscio @Forensics3D . FARO scan testimony. Imes: he's not available until March 12. Judge may consider allowing state to rest &reopen with him later. No ruling on if this testimony will be allowed. Det. Edward Bachman (recalled). Prosecutors playing 15-20 mins of Merritt's Oct, 22, 2014, police interview that was hours long. Juanita Merritt, Chase's sister. Sgt. Ryan Smith (recalled). Prosecution expect to rest by end of next week. Trial continues to Monday, 3/4.
    Also hearing on 3/8 @ 9am re OSC: Failure to comply to subpoena order (Google & Microsoft).
    3/4/19 Day 27: Defense arguing against a clip from CNN to be played in court. Which is "I am definitely the last person he saw"). Judge overrules, it will be played. And about photos of video surveillance allegedly showing Merritt's truck are among the issues currently being argued. State witness: Sgt. Ryan Smith (recalled). DA shows CNN clip. DA rests case. Defense asked for dismissal of all charges. Denied. There is a hearing 3/8 re OSC: Failure to comply to subpoena order (Google & Microsoft) without jurors. Jurors will be back in court on Tuesday, 3/12 to hear last State witness re FARO scan testimony by Eugene Liscio.
     
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    asyousay Well-Known Member

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    So does Merritt have a twin or a doppelganger that just happens to be in the same field of work as Chase?

    Maybe this mystical person is framing Chase but then you still would have the issue of it was Chase cashing forged cheques not his look alike.
     
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    So we have two new uploads on youtube. Thursday Parts 1 & 2 but note Part 1 also includes the second part of Wednesday after noon recess.



     
  14. itsbrookie

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    So I'm about halfway through Juanita's testimony and it has been.. Interesting lol.

    She clearly still adores her brother, when she pointed him out to the court she had to remark on his 'handsomeness' . She also really wants it to be very, very clear that she has had many surgeries (which is horrible, obviously, I don't want to seem as though I don't feel for her for having been through them). It was quite frustrating when she was asked whether reading the transcript of a conversation she had with a detective would jog her memory and she said 'no' lol :D the lawyer simply wanted her to recall the things she said, not to actually recall the events themselves.

    Also, I did get a good giggle from everyone laughing at the comment about Smith being the 'young' detective :D

    On a separate note, did anyone notice Chase trying to hold in his anger when he looked at the phone records during his interrogation? The way he flicked the papers after reading them. He didn't seem too happy to find out that the detective wasn't lying about his phone pinging at the grave sites :cool: and it was chilling to hear him say that the first time he went out to that area was 'a few weeks after', and the cop had to clarify whether or not he meant after the disappearance or after the bodies were found. :eek: could he have gone back a few times to check that nothing was visible? Or to move things from the possible third grave? :eek:

    All JMO :)
     
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  15. missy1974

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    Of course I have to go to work, so I can't watch all of these!!! grrrrr But I am listening to Juanita's testimony again...

    Did I hear her right, did she say that "Joe drove me to Coco's?" (on direct)

    I listened to the direct... she was not asked about the 6th, not that I would expect her to remember or not LOL

    Oh the defense questioning is over now... was shorter than I remembered, but mostly about Bennett.
     
  16. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Sorry - I just noticed I put the heading as
    Monday, March 5th - obviously it should be:

    Monday, March 4th :rolleyes:
     
  17. oceanblueeyes

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    If CM testifies about how broken down he is, this would be a great impeachment video to show the jury during cross examination by asking CM to explain this footage to the jury.

    If not, maybe the judge will let the state enter it during rebuttal after CM gives his sob story disguised as testimony. Lol

    Imo
     
  18. LadyL

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    Dan, Susan, and Patrick ... hostile witnesses?
     
  19. Bernina

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    I think you're taking that tad bit personal and totally out of context. It was a generalization and didn't apply to anyone specifically.

    To quote myself:

    "For the many of us who have been here from the start, whether lurking or posting, there's not much, if any, doubt that the right individual was arrested and charged. CM is the only rational conclusion."

     
  20. oceanblueeyes

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    That is a horrible decision by the DT if they choose this route.

    Imo, it's never a wise move to treat any family members of the murdered victims with any hostility whatsoever.

    Imo, the jurors will be incensed by this behavior if they do so to any of them.

    Beating up on family members who have already endured such unimaginable pain, trauma, and suffering already is never a wise move. Imo.

    BUT, with these particular attorneys anything is possible.

    They seem to have no ethical boundaries in how low they are willing to go. Imo

    If they do, it will be another opportunity for the state to bring out how badly CM treated the mom of the man he had murdered in cold blood.

    Imo
     
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