Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni missing from Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #7

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  • #581
Remind me, the picture of her car being pulled out, it was clearly the drivers side window that was broken. Or have I lost any semblance of my mind I still had..?
Yes in the extraction it was. The driver's side mirror was also damaged. In an interview AWP states this often happens during the flipping and removal of the vehicle.

The 360 assessment done by Nick upon discovery states "driver's side passenger window down. Passenger front window busted out.
 
  • #582
I don’t think that their competence is in question. However, there are areas where someone might question their judgement.

One is: their first reaction seems to have been to tell everyone that they’d found KR. Sure, it was unimaginable that it would be someone else—but still, in my opinion, they should have expressed themselves more cautiously. (They seemed to have adjusted what they said, by the next morning.)

And then there’s the “Murder or Accident” headline on their video-advertisement. That seems unjustifiable, again in my opinion. (If they’re that hard-up for money, they should start by accepting rewards!)

All this MOO.
JMHO
AWP is a highly accomplished team and their motivation has always been to find the where, not the why. Personally, I think they are slow releasing information out of frustration with LE. Nothing that casts doubt but motivating to LE to investigate! Right or wrong they feel LE have missed some very big clues or even tips. All the while, never saying anything derogatory. When asked Jared stated they would not have had "murdered in the title if the believed it to have been an accident.

Until we see what diver Nick saw, we'll never know for certain. He said clearly "call the authorities it looks suspicious".

Not arguing but their credibility is a pillar in that community. With over two million followers I don't see this as clout chasing or monetary motivation. IMO MOO
 
  • #583
I’ve been following AWP’s YT for a little while now. Their videos have usually seemed a bit “over the top” (almost theatrical in some instances) to me, but I was able to look past that to the end result in most cases. Kiely’s is no different. It takes money to do what they do and they don’t accept rewards apparently. So…

Their work is priceless. It’s brought answers to many families. Answers that wouldn’t have been available otherwise.

That’s all. I hate to see this thread veer off topic a bit.
 
  • #584
This is madness! I'm going to be watching this video first thing in the morning - there are so many different interpretations from what has been seen/said that I won't be able to be patient like i normally can.
 
  • #585
This is madness! I'm going to be watching this video first thing in the morning - there are so many different interpretations from what has been seen/said that I won't be able to be patient like i normally can.
Let us know how it goes, ok?
 
  • #586
FWIW, AWP have dealt with fresh cases before. Here is one:


The interactions with LE in this one are interesting.
 
  • #587
Hmmmm... I'm not feeling too good about AWP's video from the small preview that's available to everyone. Here's why...

First off, they are interviewing some guy that said he saw her with someone else at 11AM, hung over or had a really rough something or other. I can't understand the dude. For starters... 11AM when??? The day OF the party because it definitely wasn't her he saw the day after. Unless what he's saying is true, and her car wasn't submerged the night of the party.

So AWP is apparently implicating some guy in a van parked out there pointing out where he was parked, and where she was parked. I wonder what LE will think about that?

Things that make ya go hmmm.....

Looks like these guys the AWP team think something nefarious happened. They saw the submerged car first so what they saw must have led them to a conclusion that this wasn't an ordinary accident by someone who was impaired. If that's the situation I also wonder what LE's position is on this.
 
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If AWP has called attention to any real oversight, or "kept the heat on", as some say, that is a good thing.

<modsnip> The title caught me off guard. I also have to ask: what if it was neither murder or accident? At 16, if someone gave her something really strong/weird, slipped it to her in a drink for "fun" but not with the intention to take her life, then what do we have? Manslaughter? Something else? I'm not convinced she drove herself straight into the lake OR there was some weird murder and cover up. Neither one really sits right with me.

The negative blowback associated with "drama for clicks" seems too real, and too large to be worth it, IMO. Even for the tow truck driver. Why wade into this if you did not sincerely believe you saw something? I sincerely hope his account is clarified. With others mentioning his not nailing down a specific day over a weekend, I can understand this, since he did not realize Kiely was a missing person until some time had passed. It may have also been kept vague intentionally, although perhaps that is a stretch? Just thinking things through. It also is not clear to me if she was what he clearly recognized, her vehicle or both. I hope this is better explained.
 
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  • #592
Interview with Nick, Roadside assistance guy.

AWP - So we just got out of Best Buy after picking up some supplies here in Reno, NV. We're on our way to work the Kiely Rodney case just down the street in Truckee, CA and Nick, a long time supporter fan of ours... appreciate you for coming up to us, possibly has some information in regards to the Kiely Rodney case, so why don't you explain a little bit about what what you may have run into.

Nick - So, my name is Nick. I work at a emergency roadside assistance programme. I got a call up in Truckee, Boca, for a battery call, so pretty much that means the vehicle can't start. So I went en route up there, found the vehicle. At the time I didn't realise that this was a situation until later on but...

AWP - Let me stop you right there. You said you went to Boca?

Nick - Yes sir.

AWP - So, over near Boca lake?

Nick - Yes Sir.

AWP - So, not Prosser Lake? Prosser Creek Lake?

Nick - It's right by Prosser Creek.

AWP - Yeah, so just north? So you went to Boca?

Nick - At first, when I went there, I realised after my test that, you know, everything was working great on the vehicle. At that point in time I did notice that like, she was very hesitant and very sceptical on everything that was going on. She was asking me really weird questions, like in the sense of - 'how do you put on your seatbelt correctly?' and like...okay and she asked me to show her on how to connect it to like her actual belt. After that she was stating on how she was there all night and she can't get her vehicle started due to the fact that, now we both realised, it was in neutral. She was wearing a sweatshirt, so it looks like she has been there for quite a while.

AWP - What colour was the sweatshirt?

Nick - It was a grey sweatshirt.

AWP - Was it dark grey, or light grey?

Nick - It was light grey, yeah. Also, there was a guy there that was with her, at time being. He was wearing a black San Francisco flat top ball cap facing forwards, brown hair sticking out just a little bit on the sides. It was kinda like...they were both kinda at unease, is what it looked like for me, like as if either had like a crazy night or a crazy day...there's something going on, I couldn't know and at the time I didn't realise what was going on, but other than that he was.... I mean a thinner built guy is the best way I could put it, with a bro tank and it was white bro tank. He had some freckles on his face, maybe, or like...like maybe it's like acne or what not, but it was on both sides of his face. Oh and he was also a little bit like shorter than me, so I'm 6ft 3.

AWP - In hindsight, you're realising all of this. When do you think that this took place? Was it before? During the day? After she disappeared?

Nick - To be honest with you, it's either right after she disappeared or right before she disappeared, but it was around noon'ish, like 11 o'clock in the morning when I got out to her. During that period of time....after the period, I told her that I was gonna leave and hope you have a great day. Vehicle - I told her to keep it running for a couple of hours to obviously make sure everything's working good on the vehicle, charging system wise. At that point in time, then I left and a week later is when I saw, at a coffee shop, that she was gone.

AWP - You saw this on a flyer or something?

Nick - Yeah, but then everything spiralled out of control and I got in contact with the detective and tried to do everything I could and... yeah... and then I saw you guys.

AWP - Now we know we probably have a tie to Boca, you know, which was already on my radar. Do you know who placed the call to your roadside company?

Nick - So I don't get details. Calls don't go through me, they go through...

AWP - Dispatch? So, you don't have...

AWP - So, when you were digitally dispatched, did you call them to say you were coming or you just showed up?

Nick - I did call and nothing went through, it went straight to voicemail.

AWP - Do you know if she had a phone on her at the time?

Nick - She did say that her phone was dead and so she used whatever died. Whoever this was, she used his phone. So that's how she did get in contact.

AWP - And what was...you mentioned like she was asking funny questions and acting weird.

Nick - Right and at the time I didn't realise, again, that's..

AWP - Yeah, yeah, I mean, being I... I've been in the towing industry my whole life, so you see a lot of crazy stuff, a lot of weird stuff and it's actually pretty normal, you know. So I can see why at the time it's just....just a normal call.

Nick - She kept on going over that like - 'How do you like, you know, how do you secure your seat belt, like, firmly and like do it correctly' and that's when I...

AWP - When she was asking this - was the guy that she was with right there too?

Nick - He was on the opposite side of the car.

AWP - So he could hear the conversation as well?

Nick - Every single time the guy would come over to us, she would go on to the other side and it was just like a back and forth, like a tag team, but say like one person would come over, she wouldn't stay near him and then they would go vice versa. Or if we were at the front of the car, going about the battery and talking about the battery, he was always on one side, she was on the other. They were never close to each other.

AWP - She was uncomfortable? Yeah, yeah, yeah that screams awkwardness and someone being uncomfortable and when in that the scenario - If he was there with her, he should have been right next to her. If not, if not. Dealing with you the entire time and not not not her. Did she seem high or intoxicated or...?

Nick - I thought that maybe she was either hungover or just had a really rough day. She looked distressed.

AWP - Can you show me on the map where you saw her?

Nick - Absolutely.

AWP - So we're here in Reno. Let's go down to Truckee, there's Prosser, there's Boca. Just drop a pin on the road, exactly where you saw her.

Nick - Boca, you come in...you follow this road down. I think that is a turnout right there Yeah this is it. And so, right there - how she was coming out this way.

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AWP - So her front end was facing 84 from A94?

Nick - Yeah.

AWP - And did you leave before her? Or did she leave before you?

Nick - I left before her.

AWP - Was there anybody else around?

Nick - There was people far back here, yes, but not near her, no.

AWP - Did you notice anything in particular in her car at all? I mean...

Nick - I mean, besides perfume bottles and like...yeah actually there was a perfume bottle that was in the centre consul and that was all that I recall to be honest.

AWP - Did she have anything on her keys at all..?

Nick - I don't remember.

AWP - Did you say that you guys have cameras that could possibly get some sort of facial recognition on...

Nick - Yeah, so we do indeed. We have cameras facing front and rear of our vehicles as well as that we do have like audio, so we could pick up audio from inside and outside of the truck. So we did have that and I'm guaranteeing, I mean, my vehicles facing directly towards hers. So that's how I normally do it for my protection.

AWP - What's the window you're giving us, of when this happened?

Nick - Either Friday, Saturday or Sunday, I believe one of the...cos.... the weekends I usually cover Truckee. So, that Friday I also worked in Truckee. So, yeah.

AWP - If you were to make a bet on what day it was, what would you say?

Nick - I.....I mean when I was looking back under my GPS on my phone, where I've been.. I was there both on Saturday and Sunday, farther into Boca.

AWP - Everything you just heard unfolded right here where I'm standing. Talking about where Nick described him parking his service van when he pulled up to give the battery service to Kiely he parked his van right here, facing that direction. Her vehicle was parked right over here, facing A94. That way..

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  • #593
BBM
My nephew is missing (3 1/2 months) if he were found by AWP I would be so so so grateful. MOO is we can't miss the mark they were called in by LE and they found Kiely.

I'm sorry about your nephew,I hope he is found safe and well very soon.
Just to clarify that LE didn't call in AWP. They heard AWP were already on their way and reached out.
AWP responded to the many shout outs from their followers to come look for Kiely,they were originally due to come at the end of the month. MOO until I find a link.
AWP Dave Bishop said they searched Boca and other sites because they were in 10 mile radius.

*Doug
 
  • #594
Ok....I just watched the beginning of the linked full video.

Nick seems completely at ease, calm and explains his GPS, which he can review, had him in Boca on Saturday and Sunday.

While it would be preferable if he was able to state exact date and time of call, and give a first name at least of the female he interacted with, I do not personally get the impression he is dishonest or fabricating. MOO.
 
  • #595
The tow truck driver never identifies that it was Kiely or that the car was a CRV or if it took place before or after the Prosser party. He couldn't verify because he doesn't have dispatch records. He has cameras on his vehicle but we never see any footage. This is all easily verifiable information. Bishop does say it was Kiely, so maybe they have verified.
 
  • #596
Driver's side window was intact (rolled completely up)when they located the CRV. (The mirror looked intact as well.) Rear driver's window was rolled down. Passenger window was broken out. That mirror also looked intact, so mirror damage likely occurred when car flipped during removal.
 
  • #597
Omg, I should have bought stock in Kleenex years ago… I feel a collective heartbeat watching this with all of you. I just had to take a moment to say how grateful I am for all of us being together as we view… I don’t feel so all alone.
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The tow truck driver never identifies that it was Kiely or that the car was a CRV or if it took place before or after the Prosser party. He couldn't verify because he doesn't have dispatch records. He has cameras on his vehicle but we never see any footage. This is all easily verifiable information. Bishop does say it was Kiely, so maybe they have verified.
I haven’t watched yet and appreciate everyone who is providing info! Nick also said he’d been in contact with a detective—so it was more than just leaving a tip on the tip line, IMO. Hoping this was all vetted by LE and either corroborated or disproven.
 
  • #599
I just watched the video and while the bit with the tow truck driver was strange, I don’t see how the video impeded LE’s investigation in any way. Now we know more about the shape the car was in while under water but I think that’s about all that was divulged
 
  • #600
Her grandfather, sitting there alone.... :(
 
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