CA CA - Long Beach, WhtFem 700UFCA, 20-28, on beach, faux fur coat, May'74

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  1. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I think Ted Bundy volunteered for the young Republicans. It was JW Gacy who was an activist for the Democratic party.

    Not that either party (R or D) should have to answer to the acts of either Bundy or Gacy, as their evil acts had nothing to do with their politics.
     


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    Irish_Eyes Well-Known Member

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    Ah, right you are - on both counts.
     
  3. Ambercat

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    I wasn't very clear when I made my previous post about this lady looking similar to the known victims of Ted Bundy. I think she looks a lot like Vicki Lynn Hollar except she is a few inches taller.
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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hollar_vicki.html
    I had wondered if, Shoreline Drive Jane Doe had been reported missing (in a jurisdiction where Ted Bundy was "active") and because of her physical appearance, LE had been under the impression that she had been murdered by Mr. Bundy and her remains were not found, thus not putting together that she was the UID found deceased in Long Beach, CA and not actually murdered by Mr. Bundy but by someone else.
     
  4. Victory

    Victory Active Member

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    Ive searched all over the internet for Shoreline Drive Jane Doe, checking any 1970-1974 missing female profile I could find. Im tempted to start checking the 60s in case she is a runaway. Has anyone tried the 60s?
     
  5. Ambercat

    Ambercat Well-Known Member

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    I have for both Shoreline Jane Doe and Wilmington John Doe who were found in the Long Beach area (as well as several other people who were found in other jurisdictions). Unfortunately, it seems like the further you go back, the less missing persons reports there are available on websites like NamUs, the Charley Project, and Doe Network. :maddening:

    I was really disheartened to read a quote from Long Beach Police Lt. Lloyd Cox (about Oral Stuart Jr. who was an UID from 1974 to 2012) stating that --
    http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_20206753/marines-body-found-dumped-east-long-beach-1974

    I wonder if someone reported Shoreline Jane Doe missing and the report got misplaced or someone got rid of it after X amount of years? I guess LE could have also refused to take a report to begin with. I wonder if she has family out there wondering what happened to her?
     
  6. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Richard Well-Known Member

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    What you say is so true. Since the start of the internet, when newspapers started putting stories on line, and since missing persons posters have been placed there, there have been many more matches between missing persons and John/Jane Does.

    There have been older missing person cases posted on the internet in recent years at an increasing rate - so yes, it is very likely that they were lost or misfiled over the years.
     
  8. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    There's a recent article with a brief mention of this Jane Doe, along with a new NCMEC facial reconstruction.

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    http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_20767780

    http://www.presstelegram.com/rss/ci_20769916/cold-cases-when-even-victims-are-mystery


    Thanks, Ambercat for calling this to my attention.
     
  9. Ambercat

    Ambercat Well-Known Member

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    I had wondered about the location where this woman was found for some time. After reading the Press-Telegram article, which explained that there used to be a jetty there (near Shoreline and Linden, near the Villa Rivera), I cannot help but to wonder was she visible from the Villa Rivera? The Villa Rivera is a large building with a lot of residents --
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    It is the one with the green roof in the photo and the jetty is long gone. Although the tan building with the red roof wasn't built until much later, there were still quite a few other apartment/condominiums there at the time. Did anyone notice anything suspicious the night before? I think I had this same question about a male UID who was found buried in the sand in front of the Villa Rivera ten years later. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140400
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    She has a much smaller nose than the Jane Doe IMO.
     
  12. tamar

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    here is the latest reconstruction posted on Doenetwork
     

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  13. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I don't think it looks like her at all.
     
  14. Ambercat

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    I thought it was just me.
     
  15. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The new recon of 1978 Belmont Shore John Doe is reasonably close, but this one - not so much.
     
  16. Bobby88

    Bobby88 Whatever happened to Johnnie Herrera?

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    The shape of her face in the new recon makes her look a bit on the chunky side, which she clearly wasn't. I think Carl's recons were far more accurate.
     
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    I completely agree as well. Not even close to the morgue photo.... :twocents:

    Bobby88 replied just a second before I did....he summed up my exact feelings about the recon.
     
  18. Ambercat

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    Alice Reeves was recently listed on NamUs. She is a bit taller and heavier than the UID (per NamUs, the LA County Coroner estimated the UID's height/weight). Although Louisiana is far from California, I see a resemblance.
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    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20169/43
     
  19. EmmaliLucia

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    I was about to mention Acala's woman in the fur coat, but I do think they look way too different around the nose area.

    Question though, if I bump my nose on something it swells horribly, is there any way that the nose is distorted from swelling? Would the swelling stay after death or would it go away?
     
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