CA CA - Los Angeles, WhiteFem, UP63553, 55-65, 2008 mugshot + possible name, January 2013

[JovanSrna]

This decedent was found decomposed in a homeless encampment at Pan Pacific Park.
The body was found on the 13th of January, 2013.

There are two mugshots from 2008 and a picture of her shoes.
Her possible name is ''William Windsor''.

Estimated year of death is incorrectly stated as 1956.
The PMI is 4 days.

Height estimate is 5' 2"-5' 5"(62-65 inches).
Weight estimate is 110-125 lbs.

A lengthy description of clothes is included:
Mock Turtleneck Shirt - Black - Size Medium - Label: Basic Edition
Thermal Shirt - Black- Size Medium - Label: Joe Boxer
Short Sleeve Shirt - Dark Gray- Size UNK - Label: Introduced By Stirfry
Short Sleeve T-shirt - Red- Size Small - Label: Deth
Stretch Pants - Black- Size Small - Label: No Nonsense
Briefs (Men's) - Black- Size UNK - Label: Fruit of the Loom
Tennis Shoes - White and Blue - Size 7 - Brand: Catapult

Link for convenience:
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[victoriarobinson642]

This decedent was found decomposed in a homeless encampment at Pan Pacific Park.
The body was found on the 13th of January, 2013.

There are two mugshots from 2008 and a picture of her shoes.
Her possible name is ''William Windsor''.

Is the possible name a typo?

 

[JovanSrna]

Is the possible name a typo?

I'm more inclined to believe that she provided a pseudonym during her 2008 stint with the police.
This strikes me as a homeless woman all things considered. Her background could be anything really.

 

[JovanSrna]

Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner
Here is the link for the coroner's office in this case and some comments:
''On 01/14/2013 @ 1500 hours the decedent was found at Pan Pacific park @ 3rd & Burnside in L.A. Apparently the decedent has been "living" at this location for the past year. Decedent is female but went by the possible name of William Windsor.''

One could entertain the possibility of a trans-man in this case.

 

[carbuff]

This decedent was found decomposed in a homeless encampment at Pan Pacific Park.
The body was found on the 13th of January, 2013.

There are two mugshots from 2008 and a picture of her shoes.
Her possible name is ''William Windsor''.

Estimated year of death is incorrectly stated as 1956.
The PMI is 4 days.

Height estimate is 5' 2"-5' 5"(62-65 inches).
Weight estimate is 110-125 lbs.

A lengthy description of clothes is included:
Mock Turtleneck Shirt - Black - Size Medium - Label: Basic Edition
Thermal Shirt - Black- Size Medium - Label: Joe Boxer
Short Sleeve Shirt - Dark Gray- Size UNK - Label: Introduced By Stirfry
Short Sleeve T-shirt - Red- Size Small - Label: Deth
Stretch Pants - Black- Size Small - Label: No Nonsense
Briefs (Men's) - Black- Size UNK - Label: Fruit of the Loom
Tennis Shoes - White and Blue - Size 7 - Brand: Catapult

Link for convenience:
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

@transdoetaskforce Possibly trans decedent

 

[Malene]

Maybe she is British, I mean by the choise of name given to the police. William Windsor, is the British Prince William or could be anyways.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

@transdoetaskforce Possibly trans decedent

Some of the clothing appears to be men's clothing as well

 

[carbuff]

Some of the clothing appears to be men's clothing as well

Yeah, and the overall look is rather masculine. But that could just be a practical haircut.

It says they had been living in the camp for a year before they died, so we'd be looking for somebody who went missing in 2011 or earlier.

 

[Laughing]

Yeah, and the overall look is rather masculine. But that could just be a practical haircut.

It says they had been living in the camp for a year before they died, so we'd be looking for somebody who went missing in 2011 or earlier.

and a decision for safety/anonymity?

I wondered about the well-known William Windsor as well!

 

[carbuff]

and a decision for safety/anonymity?

I wondered about the well-known William Windsor as well!

No matter what the person's identification or choice of pronouns, it would be likely they were reported missing under their female name, if they were reported at all.

 

[Melt71]

She has long and defined ears and long/narrow nose. Wish all photos were so good for comparison purposes. However I just scrolled through all the CA MPs around her age and couldn't see anyone even close. I was kind of hoping that at Christmas a few more long-term MPs might pop up in Namus as family tried to contact them and finally reported them missing. Noone for this person yet, it seems.

 

[madamx]

She looks a lot like this woman that went missing from California in 2004. She also wore men’s clothing. Except her height is way off.

3597DFCA - Kathryn Rebecca LaMadrid

Name: Kathryn Rebecca LaMadrid
Case Classification: Endangered Missing
Missing Since: December 17, 2004
Location Last Seen: Fort Bragg, Mendocino County, California

Physical Description
Date of Birth: December 24, 1964
Age: 40 years old
Race: White
Gender: Female
Height: 5'8"-5'10"
Weight: 140-170 lbs.
Hair Color: Blonde (may be died black)
Eye Color: Blue
Distinguishing Marks/Features: She was depressed at the time of her disapearence and was prescribed medicine but she stopped taking it. She may suffer amnesia as a result of a car crash late November 2004. She has a tattoo of a "ring" in blue and red ink on left ring finger and a pierced left ear.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: She often wears baggy men's cloting.
Jewelry: Possibly wearing a short silver chain with a "St. Christopher" pendent, plain silver rings.
Additional Personal Items: Glasses with plastic frames or clear contacts.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Kathryn was last seen at approximately 1:30pm crossing the Noyo Bridge in Fort Bragg, California. She has never been heard from again. LaMadrid may have been seen in the Fort Bragg area on Dec. 26, 2004 and January 11, 2005. There were possible sightings in the Roseburg and Myrtle Creek, Oregon areas months after her disappearence. Also in Ukiah, California.

 

[madamx]

UNIDENTIFIED
Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP63553Female, White / Caucasian
Date Body FoundJanuary 14, 2013
Location FoundLos Angeles, California




Case Information


Case Numbers
NCMEC Number--
ME/C Case Number2013-00401
Demographics
SexFemale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian
Possible First NameWilliam
Possible Middle Name--
Possible Last NameWindsor
Possible Nickname--
Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 70
Estimated Age Range (Years)55-65
Estimated Year of Death1956
Estimated PMI4 Days
Height5' 2"-5' 5"(62-65 inches), Estimated
Weight110-125 lbs, Estimated

 

[madamx]

KLaMadrid1 |


I wonder how correct are the stats on the unidentified woman. This lady really looks like her.

 

[Boxer]

She looks a lot like this woman that went missing from California in 2004. She also wore men’s clothing. Except her height is way off.

3597DFCA - Kathryn Rebecca LaMadrid

Name: Kathryn Rebecca LaMadrid
Case Classification: Endangered Missing
Missing Since: December 17, 2004
Location Last Seen: Fort Bragg, Mendocino County, California

Physical Description
Date of Birth: December 24, 1964
Age: 40 years old
Race: White
Gender: Female
Height: 5'8"-5'10"
Weight: 140-170 lbs.
Hair Color: Blonde (may be died black)
Eye Color: Blue
Distinguishing Marks/Features: She was depressed at the time of her disapearence and was prescribed medicine but she stopped taking it. She may suffer amnesia as a result of a car crash late November 2004. She has a tattoo of a "ring" in blue and red ink on left ring finger and a pierced left ear.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: She often wears baggy men's cloting.
Jewelry: Possibly wearing a short silver chain with a "St. Christopher" pendent, plain silver rings.
Additional Personal Items: Glasses with plastic frames or clear contacts.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Kathryn was last seen at approximately 1:30pm crossing the Noyo Bridge in Fort Bragg, California. She has never been heard from again. LaMadrid may have been seen in the Fort Bragg area on Dec. 26, 2004 and January 11, 2005. There were possible sightings in the Roseburg and Myrtle Creek, Oregon areas months after her disappearence. Also in Ukiah, California.

MOO Strong facial resemblance.

Uinidentified is up to 5'5 tall
Missing person low range 5'8"

LaMadrid 10 years younger.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

There's definitely a resemblance between the two. I would submit it.

 

[Laughing]

I agree to submit. We all shrink as the discs in our spines age. I used to be nearly 5'10", more like 5'8" now.

One doctor who looked at my arthritic spine (and MRI etc) said that tall people shrink more.

And -- remains were decomposed, so would that mean a greater possible height range?

Facial, situation -- there is a lot of overlap.

JMHO YMMV

 

[carbuff]

I dunno. LaMadrid seems to have been living a similar lifestyle and there is a strong resemblance, but the size difference and the blue vs. brown eyes point the other direction.

 

[madamx]

I am wondering if the UIDs eyes were brown..how did they know? Wasn't she decomposed? just wondering

 

[Goecke]

I'm assuming they said "William's" eyes were brown due info when the mugshots were taken/the mugshots themselves? Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't hair and eye colour included in arrest records?

Looking at the picture, I'd say that William's eyes look either hazel or grey. Not necessarily blue (maybe dark/greyish blue) but they definitely don't look brown to me.