CA - Malibu Creek State Park Shooting, Tristan Beaudette, 35, 22 June 2018 *Arrest* #2

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Does it seem like this group went quiet after FigMutant said they thought the shooter was not someone Tristan knew? I wish we had any more leads to go on here. I’m hoping so hard that LE has some answers soon.
 
Does it seem like this group went quiet after FigMutant said they thought the shooter was not someone Tristan knew? I wish we had any more leads to go on here. I’m hoping so hard that LE has some answers soon.
I feel like it was slowly getting quieter and quieter even before that. Just not much to go on right now unfortunately. Figmutant stated he thinks it is random.
I feel the same way just because of the other shootings in the area. Granted the weapon is most likely different since otherwise a connection would have been made already but just the fact that the times are so similar...between 4am and 5am makes me personally feel that they might be connected. Different weapon most likely but same area and same time frame. At a minimum the shooting of the Tesla was even within the same week!!!
I feel like we should try to get more info about this Tesla incident somehow. As far as I know no interview has been shown yet of the Tesla driver. It would be so interesting to hear more about that incident. Where exactly was the car located or driving when it was shot at? According to CrimeMapping.com the incident is marked as assault with a gun exactly at the corner of Mullholand and Las Virgenes. But working in the digital map industry myself I know firsthand how often stops/incidents are not mapped correctly or matched incorrectly by the map itself. It's possible that the car was stopped at the traffic light up in that intersection and shot at but I believe I read somewhere it was driving along Las Virgenes past the Campground?
It would be so helpful to hear more about this Tesla incident. If somebody has any idea how to find out more about this let me know!
 
The person who had Tristan's site left in a hurry. He said his kid was sick . Tristan then moved to that site. I Don't know if this means anything . Any ideas out there.

Mr. Beaudette,

I am so sorry for your loss. I cannot imagine what you and your family are going through.

May I ask which spots Tristan and his brother-in-law originally had reserved?

I also wonder how extensively the person who left in a hurry has been interviewed. Perhaps it may just be that his child was ill, but I do wonder if there was something he saw or heard that raised concern.
 
Thank you. That I do not know. We were going over what ifs when I found this out. I have not reached out for any information . It is to painfull to many. Hoping someone here could use that info and do some research.
I'm glad you're here, Mr. Beaudette, and also terribly sorry for your family's tragic loss. There are some very bright folks here on Websleuths, and if it's at all possible, we'll do our best to help and offer up new ideas.
May I ask how you found out about the camper who suddenly left the site that Tristan moved to? I'm sure his brother-in-law knows if his site was reserved ahead of time, but he could well be in too much pain to answer questions after I'm sure he's spoken a great deal to the authorities. I wonder if the campground host is still at the camp grounds, or did he/she/they have to leave until the park is reopened?
 
Thank you. That I do not know. We were going over what ifs when I found this out. I have not reached out for any information . It is to painfull to many. Hoping someone here could use that info and do some research.
I'm glad you're here, Mr. Beaudette, and also terribly sorry for your family's tragic loss. There are some very bright folks here on Websleuths, and if it's at all possible, we'll do our best to help and offer up new ideas.
May I ask how you found out about the camper who suddenly left the site that Tristan moved to? I'm sure his brother-in-law knows if his site was reserved ahead of time, but he could well be in too much pain to answer questions after I'm sure he's spoken a great deal to the authorities. I wonder if the campground host is still at the camp grounds, or did he/she/they have to leave until the park is reopened?
 
Mr. Beaudette: I'm very sorry for your loss. So very, very senseless. I can't imagine what all of you are going through.

As others here have said, I, too, will keep on the lookout for any new information that can be shared here.
 
Trip report as promised! Very long! And I'm happy to answer any questions...

'Good morning', we said to the LASD deputy manning the desk at the Lost Hills Station. 'We were going to go hiking in the park but we've heard there are problems there.'

The deputy shrugged. 'Well, someone was killed there camping. It's probably been maybe two months by now.'

'Oh. Killed.' We'd taken the strategy of seeing what LASD had to say without indicating that we knew anything about the murder. 'Have they solved it?'

'No. They haven't solved it. They don't know who did it.'

'So is there any kind of public advisory about this for people using the park?'

'At this point I tell everyone that this shouldn't make you more cautious than prior. You know you should always know who's around you, know where you're walking, know where you're at, report anything suspicious.'

This was odd advice and irrelevant given that someone was shot and killed while sleeping in his tent in a campground maintained by California State Parks. The victim most definitely knew who was around him, knew where he was, etc. None of this saved him from a nighttime shooter.

We pushed on. 'Have there been any other incidents or is that the only one?'

'That's the only one.'

No, it wasn't. We knew that. Given the reality of the eight or nine known park area shooting incidents since 2016, we weren't going to accept that answer. When pressed - 'So no more shooting incidents in the area? No other reports of gunshots?' - she offered that cars had been shot at 'very sporadically' and 'early in the morning'.

She added, 'But people should always be careful. It shouldn't take something like this for people to say 'Let me be careful.'

Again, under the circumstances, this was useless advice. None of the three people shot at in the park area – James Rogers, Meliss Tatangelo and Tristan Beaudette – lacked for awareness and/or care. The latter two were sleeping in a well-maintained, well-populated, ranger-patrolled campground. Rogers is a wildlife biologist and an experienced outdoorsperson. He was sleeping in a hammock near the Backbone Trail.

'Ok, thank you!' We could see we weren't going to learn much more here.

The plan was to park at the Hindu temple on Las Virgenes Road and walk the short distance across the road and in to the campground. If you look on Google Maps, you'll see it's a only couple of hundred metres straight-line distance from Las Virgenes to the campground. There's a partial-access road heading into the park as well – it says 'Crags Rd' on the Google map but the street sign says 'Waycross' – a narrow paved track for utility or drainage maintenance closed off to traffic by a series of gates.

For an even shorter way in on foot to the campground, you can walk along the Waycross track to where it joins the Campfire Center Path (as seen on the campground map) or you can take any number of well-worn deer trails for the shortest, most direct route. There were half a dozen deer out doing exactly that. If you take the campfire path, you enter the campground between campsites 52 and 53 so that you're almost directly facing campsite 51. However, to get closer to 49/51 across the campground roadway, you have to walk past 52 and 53. (Later, we asked the park ranger if those were occupied on the shooting night but he said he 'couldn't answer that'.)

Really though, there's a very simple straight-line route via deer trail from Las Virgenes to directly across from 51. I took some photos and you can see the utility poles that line the road from the campground. You are very close to the road here. Veryclose. In the daylight hours, the road noise is constant, you can hear every car go by. There is no difficulty whatsoever in taking this path.

The campground itself is a flat, open expanse. There are a couple of bathroom structures in the center, trees here and there. Looking over the surroundings, it seems unlikely that the shots could have come from a high vantage point like the hills as some WSers have speculated/suggested. The actual hills are a good distance away – the campground is not in a canyon-type area – and shooting from the hills would require shooting through live oaks trees. As a shooter and a shooting coach, I don't see it as a plausible scenario. (I'll try to post some photos so you can see.) The lines of sight are excellent on the ground but not so much from the higher elevations beyond.

We wandered around, alone except for the deer and some gophers, and discussed how anyone coming in through the Las Virgenes routes would have had to bypass sites 53, 53 and 50 to shoot at one of the tents on sites 49/51. Were those other sites occupied? We don't know. If they were occupied, who was there? Don't know that either.

In between Las Virgenes Road and the campground, there are two park buildings that look like houses that are used by biologists and other people working in the park. On the map, this are is labeled 'Angeles District Headquarters'. We went up the drive to see if we could find someone to talk to. The first building was empty but when we knocked on the door of the second house, a woman answered. She'd been working in the park 'off-and-on' for about ten years. She wasn't there when the shooting happened. She said that since the shooting, workers no longer stay overnight or after dark in the park. She said she didn't know a lot about the incident and that LASD wasn't giving the park workers much info (about that incident or any of the shootings). No staff briefings or anything like that. She suggested we go to the Admin building at the park entrance and see if we could speak with Tony Hoffman, the park superintendent.

At the Admin building, we were told that Superintendent Hoffman was in a meeting. While we waited, we saw a flyer on the desk warning visitors of the dangers of... ticks. We asked a staff member if they had any kind of flyer or advisory about the shootings in the park. 'Why?' he said. We answered: 'Because you have an advisory on ticks and ticks are the least of our worries at the moment.'

He said that he thought the sheriffs had some flyers 'last week maybe' and there was something about it on the website but there was nothing posted in the park. We explained that the website simply noted that the campground was closed pending 'an investigation' and that it didn't elaborate so people might think it's a gas leak or contaminated well as opposed to a homicide. He said he wasn't aware of the specifics on the website but he did say that the people who live around the park are very concerned.

Tony Hoffman emerged from his meeting and the first thing I'll say is he couldn't have been nicer. He took a lot of time to talk to us about various aspects of park safety and protocols for patrolling the park. However, he couldn't tell us much about the shooting at all. It seems that LASD is keeping a tight lid on things, although the CPS rangers are doing 'little, localized investigations' in cooperation with LASD. He said that the homicide hadn't seemed to deter the public at all, that people wanted to stay at the campground, even in sites 49/51, even on the night following the shooting. But staff are taking precautions and anyone there after dark is advised to call for a patrol escort if they feel unsafe going to their car or leaving the park.

We discussed daytime park and trail safety and he said that isn't an issue because all of the shooting incidents happened 'in the wee hours' (his words). This didn't make a whole lot of sense to us because the park is 8000 acres and very porous – you can access it easily and unseen from all sides. I've ridden my horse on the trails for hours and seen no one at all. Total isolation. So if you have a problem shooter in the park, there's really nothing to deter that person from expanding his activities to daylight hours. Walk in, shoot, walk out.

We thanked Spt. Hoffman for the conversation and we meant every word of it. He was so generous with his time and so willing to talk to us.

Our next stop was at a veterinarian's office further south on the PCH. The vet lives in the area and he gave us his account of how the locals feel about the shootings. He no longer walks his dog in the park and he won't drive on Las Virgenes in those 'wee' hours. He said his local Nextdoor group has frequent postings like 'Did anyone hear shots last night?' and 'I thought I heard gunshots last night! Anyone else?' He actually read these off the screen to us. So locals are very worried about the shooter striking again.

I can't say we came away with any answers except that to see that the campground is a very easy target for anyone walking in from Las Virgenes Road. We couldn't see any obvious reasons of why that tent, why that particular spot. Or why the shooter would have either passed by or decided not to shoot at campsites that would have (if occupied, we still don't know) been closer to the walk in from the road.

As to the question random or targeted?, no idea. The 'targeted' category breaks down into person-targeted and place-targeted – was the shooter after a specific person or was the shooter targeting the park campground or CPS as some sort of retributive measure? Or did the shooter just walk in from the road, fire multiple shots and slip back into the night? No way to know but all of those things are chillingly possible.

What it doesn't seem like is a plinker at night firing obliviously in the hills. Not at all. Whoever did this knew that he/she was shooting at the campground from relatively close range, even if they weren't aware of the immediate outcome.

And even with LASD's promise of increased patrols, the current reality in the MCSP area is not so promising. Very recently (mentioned on this thread) another body was dumped off Piuma Rd, which would lead you to believe that the patrols' presence has not been notd by the people who look for isolated spots in which to dump bodies. That doesn't exactly inspire confidence that they're deterring a possibly serial shooter and/or killer.

Let's hope there's a break in this case soon and that a state park campground can be a safe place for friends and families again.
 
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Trip report as promised! Very long! And I'm happy to answer any questions...

'Good morning', we said to the LASD deputy manning the desk at the Lost Hills Station. 'We were going to go hiking in the park but we've heard there are problems there.'

The deputy shrugged. 'Well, someone was killed there camping. It's probably been maybe two months by now.'

'Oh. Killed.' We'd taken the strategy of seeing what LASD had to say without indicating that we knew anything about the murder. 'Have they solved it?'

'No. They haven't solved it. They don't know who did it.'

'So is there any kind of public advisory about this for people using the park?'

'At this point I tell everyone that this shouldn't make you more cautious than prior. You know you should always know who's around you, know where you're walking, know where you're at, report anything suspicious.'

This was odd advice and irrelevant given that someone was shot and killed while sleeping in his tent in a campground maintained by California State Parks. The victim most definitely knew who was around him, knew where he was, etc. None of this saved him from a nighttime shooter.

We pushed on. 'Have there been any other incidents or is that the only one?'

'That's the only one.'

No, it wasn't. We knew that. Given the reality of the eight or nine known park area shooting incidents since 2016, we weren't going to accept that answer. When pressed - 'So no more shooting incidents in the area? No other reports of gunshots?' - she offered that cars had been shot at 'very sporadically' and 'early in the morning'.

She added, 'But people should always be careful. It shouldn't take something like this for people to say 'Let me be careful.'

Again, under the circumstances, this was useless advice. None of the three people shot at in the park area – James Rogers, Meliss Tatangelo and Tristan Beaudette – lacked for awareness and/or care. The latter two were sleeping in a well-maintained, well-populated, ranger-patrolled campground. Rogers is a wildlife biologist and an experienced outdoorsperson. He was sleeping in a hammock near the Backbone Trail.

'Ok, thank you!' We could see we weren't going to learn much more here.

The plan was to park at the Hindu temple on Las Virgenes Road and walk the short distance across the road and in to the campground. If you look on Google Maps, you'll see it's a only couple of hundred metres straight-line distance from Las Virgenes to the campground. There's a partial-access road heading into the park as well – it says 'Crags Rd' on the Google map but the street sign says 'Waycross' – a narrow paved track for utility or drainage maintenance closed off to traffic by a series of gates.

For an even shorter way in on foot to the campground, you can walk along the Waycross track to where it joins the Campfire Center Path (as seen on the campground map) or you can take any number of well-worn deer trails for the shortest, most direct route. There were half a dozen deer out doing exactly that. If you take the campfire path, you enter the campground between campsites 52 and 53 so that you're almost directly facing campsite 51. However, to get closer to 49/51 across the campground raodway, you have to walk past 52 and 53. (Later, we asked the park ranger if those were occupied on the shooting night but he said he 'couldn't answer that'.)

Really though, there's a very simple straight-line route via deer trail from Las Virgenes to directly across from 51. I took some photos and you can see the utility poles that line the road from the campground. You are very close to the road here. Veryclose. In the daylight hours, the road noise is constant, you can hear every car go by. There is no difficulty whatsoever in taking this path.

The campground itself is a flat, open expanse. There are a couple of bathroom structures in the center, trees here and there. Looking over the surroundings, it seems unlikely that the shots could have come from a high vantage point like the hills as some WSers have speculated/suggested. The actual hills are a good distance away – the campground is not in a canyon-type area – and shooting from the hills would require shooting through live oaks trees. As a shooter and a shooting coach, I don't see it as a plausible scenario. (I'll try to post some photos so you can see.) The lines of sight are excellent on the ground but not so much from the higher elevations beyond.

We wandered around, alone except for the deer and some gophers, and discussed how anyone coming in through the Las Virgenes routes would have had to bypass sites 53, 53 and 50 to shoot at one of the tents on sites 49/51. Were those other sites occupied? We don't know. If they were occupied, who was there? Don't know that either.

In between Las Virgenes Road and the campground, there are two park buildings that look like houses that are used by biologists and other people working in the park. On the map, this are is labeled 'Angeles District Headquarters'. We went up the drive to see if we could find someone to talk to. The first building was empty but when we knocked on the door of the second house, a woman answered. She'd been working in the park 'off-and-on' for about ten years. She wasn't there when the shooting happened. She said that since the shooting, workers no longer stay overnight or after dark in the park. She said she didn't know a lot about the incident and that LASD wasn't giving the park workers much info (about that incident or any of the shootings). No staff briefings or anything like that. She suggested we go to the Admin building at the park entrance and see if we could speak with Tony Hoffman, the park superintendent.

At the Admin building, we were told that Superintendent Hoffman was in a meeting. While we waited, we saw a flyer on the desk warning visitors of the dangers of... ticks. We asked a staff member if they had any kind of flyer or advisory about the shootings in the park. 'Why?' he said. We answered: 'Because you have an advisory on ticks and ticks are the least of our worries at the moment.'

He said that he thought the sheriffs had some flyers 'last week maybe' and there was something about it on the website but there was nothing posted in the park. We explained that the website simply noted that the campground was closed pending 'an investigation' and that it didn't elaborate so people might think it's a gas leak or contaminated well as opposed to a homicide. He said he wasn't aware of the specifics on the website but he did say that the people who live around the park are very concerned.

Tony Hoffman emerged from his meeting and the first thing I'll say is he couldn't have been nicer. He took a lot of time to talk to us about various aspects of park safety and protocols for patrolling the park. However, he couldn't tell us much about the shooting at all. It seems that LASD is keeping a tight lid on things, although the CPS rangers are doing 'little, localized investigations' in cooperation with LASD. He said that the homicide hadn't seemed to deter the public at all, that people wanted to stay at the campground, even in sites 49/51, even on the night following the shooting. But staff are taking precautions and anyone there after dark is advised to call for a patrol escort if they feel unsafe going to their car or leaving the park.

We discussed daytime park and trail safety and he said that isn't an issue because all of the shooting incidents happened 'in the wee hours' (his words). This didn't make a whole lot of sense to us because the park is 8000 acres and very porous – you can access it easily and unseen from all sides. I've ridden my horse on the trails for hours and seen no one at all. Total isolation. So if you have a problem shooter in the park, there's really nothing to deter that person from expanding his activities to daylight hours. Walk in, shoot, walk out.

We thanked Spt. Hoffman for the conversation and we meant every word of it. He was so generous with his time and so willing to talk to us.

Our next stop was at a veterinarian's office further south on the PCH. The vet lives in the area and he gave us his account of how the locals feel about the shootings. He no longer walks his dog in the park and he won't drive on Las Virgenes in those 'wee' hours. He said his local Nextdoor group has frequent postings like 'Did anyone hear shots last night?' and 'I thought I heard gunshots last night! Anyone else?' He actually read these off the screen to us. So locals are very worried about the shooter striking again.

I can't say we came away with any answers except that to see that the campground is a very easy target for anyone walking in from Las Virgenes Road. We couldn't see any obvious reasons of why that tent, why that particular spot. Or why the shooter would have either passed by or decided not to shoot at campsites that would have (if occupied, we still don't know) been closer to the walk in from the road.

As to the question random or targeted?, no idea. The 'targeted' category breaks down into person-targeted and place-targeted – was the shooter after a specific person or was the shooter targeting the park campground or CPS as some sort of retributive measure? Or did the shooter just walk in from the road, fire multiple shots and slip back into the night? No way to know but all of those things are chillingly possible.

What it doesn't seem like is a plinker at night firing obliviously in the hills. Not at all. Whoever did this knew that he/she was shooting at the campground from relatively close range, even if they weren't aware of the immediate outcome.

And even with LASD's promise of increased patrols, the current reality in the MCSP area is not so promising. Very recently (mentioned on this thread) another body was dumped off Piuma Rd, which would lead you to believe that the patrols' presence has not been notd by the people who look for isolated spots in which to dump bodies. That doesn't exactly inspire confidence that they're deterring a possibly serial shooter and/or killer.

Let's hope there's a break in this case soon and that a state park campground can be a safe place for friends and families again.
Thank you for the detailed report. So interesting! You have convinced me that the shots didnt come from higher ground especially in combination with roadtrippers description of the shots sounding very close. I believe roadtripper commented the following regarding which spots were empty:
I believe 8, 10, and possibly 12 were empty. We were in 9 and there was no one across the road between us and the bathroom.

Maybe @Roadtripper has more input regarding sites 53 and 50?
 
Trip report as promised! Very long! And I'm happy to answer any questions...

'Good morning', we said to the LASD deputy manning the desk at the Lost Hills Station. 'We were going to go hiking in the park but we've heard there are problems there.'

The deputy shrugged. 'Well, someone was killed there camping. It's probably been maybe two months by now.'

'Oh. Killed.' We'd taken the strategy of seeing what LASD had to say without indicating that we knew anything about the murder. 'Have they solved it?'

'No. They haven't solved it. They don't know who did it.'

'So is there any kind of public advisory about this for people using the park?'

'At this point I tell everyone that this shouldn't make you more cautious than prior. You know you should always know who's around you, know where you're walking, know where you're at, report anything suspicious.'

This was odd advice and irrelevant given that someone was shot and killed while sleeping in his tent in a campground maintained by California State Parks. The victim most definitely knew who was around him, knew where he was, etc. None of this saved him from a nighttime shooter.

We pushed on. 'Have there been any other incidents or is that the only one?'

'That's the only one.'

No, it wasn't. We knew that. Given the reality of the eight or nine known park area shooting incidents since 2016, we weren't going to accept that answer. When pressed - 'So no more shooting incidents in the area? No other reports of gunshots?' - she offered that cars had been shot at 'very sporadically' and 'early in the morning'.

She added, 'But people should always be careful. It shouldn't take something like this for people to say 'Let me be careful.'

Again, under the circumstances, this was useless advice. None of the three people shot at in the park area – James Rogers, Meliss Tatangelo and Tristan Beaudette – lacked for awareness and/or care. The latter two were sleeping in a well-maintained, well-populated, ranger-patrolled campground. Rogers is a wildlife biologist and an experienced outdoorsperson. He was sleeping in a hammock near the Backbone Trail.

'Ok, thank you!' We could see we weren't going to learn much more here.

The plan was to park at the Hindu temple on Las Virgenes Road and walk the short distance across the road and in to the campground. If you look on Google Maps, you'll see it's a only couple of hundred metres straight-line distance from Las Virgenes to the campground. There's a partial-access road heading into the park as well – it says 'Crags Rd' on the Google map but the street sign says 'Waycross' – a narrow paved track for utility or drainage maintenance closed off to traffic by a series of gates.

For an even shorter way in on foot to the campground, you can walk along the Waycross track to where it joins the Campfire Center Path (as seen on the campground map) or you can take any number of well-worn deer trails for the shortest, most direct route. There were half a dozen deer out doing exactly that. If you take the campfire path, you enter the campground between campsites 52 and 53 so that you're almost directly facing campsite 51. However, to get closer to 49/51 across the campground roadway, you have to walk past 52 and 53. (Later, we asked the park ranger if those were occupied on the shooting night but he said he 'couldn't answer that'.)

Really though, there's a very simple straight-line route via deer trail from Las Virgenes to directly across from 51. I took some photos and you can see the utility poles that line the road from the campground. You are very close to the road here. Veryclose. In the daylight hours, the road noise is constant, you can hear every car go by. There is no difficulty whatsoever in taking this path.

The campground itself is a flat, open expanse. There are a couple of bathroom structures in the center, trees here and there. Looking over the surroundings, it seems unlikely that the shots could have come from a high vantage point like the hills as some WSers have speculated/suggested. The actual hills are a good distance away – the campground is not in a canyon-type area – and shooting from the hills would require shooting through live oaks trees. As a shooter and a shooting coach, I don't see it as a plausible scenario. (I'll try to post some photos so you can see.) The lines of sight are excellent on the ground but not so much from the higher elevations beyond.

We wandered around, alone except for the deer and some gophers, and discussed how anyone coming in through the Las Virgenes routes would have had to bypass sites 53, 53 and 50 to shoot at one of the tents on sites 49/51. Were those other sites occupied? We don't know. If they were occupied, who was there? Don't know that either.

In between Las Virgenes Road and the campground, there are two park buildings that look like houses that are used by biologists and other people working in the park. On the map, this are is labeled 'Angeles District Headquarters'. We went up the drive to see if we could find someone to talk to. The first building was empty but when we knocked on the door of the second house, a woman answered. She'd been working in the park 'off-and-on' for about ten years. She wasn't there when the shooting happened. She said that since the shooting, workers no longer stay overnight or after dark in the park. She said she didn't know a lot about the incident and that LASD wasn't giving the park workers much info (about that incident or any of the shootings). No staff briefings or anything like that. She suggested we go to the Admin building at the park entrance and see if we could speak with Tony Hoffman, the park superintendent.

At the Admin building, we were told that Superintendent Hoffman was in a meeting. While we waited, we saw a flyer on the desk warning visitors of the dangers of... ticks. We asked a staff member if they had any kind of flyer or advisory about the shootings in the park. 'Why?' he said. We answered: 'Because you have an advisory on ticks and ticks are the least of our worries at the moment.'

He said that he thought the sheriffs had some flyers 'last week maybe' and there was something about it on the website but there was nothing posted in the park. We explained that the website simply noted that the campground was closed pending 'an investigation' and that it didn't elaborate so people might think it's a gas leak or contaminated well as opposed to a homicide. He said he wasn't aware of the specifics on the website but he did say that the people who live around the park are very concerned.

Tony Hoffman emerged from his meeting and the first thing I'll say is he couldn't have been nicer. He took a lot of time to talk to us about various aspects of park safety and protocols for patrolling the park. However, he couldn't tell us much about the shooting at all. It seems that LASD is keeping a tight lid on things, although the CPS rangers are doing 'little, localized investigations' in cooperation with LASD. He said that the homicide hadn't seemed to deter the public at all, that people wanted to stay at the campground, even in sites 49/51, even on the night following the shooting. But staff are taking precautions and anyone there after dark is advised to call for a patrol escort if they feel unsafe going to their car or leaving the park.

We discussed daytime park and trail safety and he said that isn't an issue because all of the shooting incidents happened 'in the wee hours' (his words). This didn't make a whole lot of sense to us because the park is 8000 acres and very porous – you can access it easily and unseen from all sides. I've ridden my horse on the trails for hours and seen no one at all. Total isolation. So if you have a problem shooter in the park, there's really nothing to deter that person from expanding his activities to daylight hours. Walk in, shoot, walk out.

We thanked Spt. Hoffman for the conversation and we meant every word of it. He was so generous with his time and so willing to talk to us.

Our next stop was at a veterinarian's office further south on the PCH. The vet lives in the area and he gave us his account of how the locals feel about the shootings. He no longer walks his dog in the park and he won't drive on Las Virgenes in those 'wee' hours. He said his local Nextdoor group has frequent postings like 'Did anyone hear shots last night?' and 'I thought I heard gunshots last night! Anyone else?' He actually read these off the screen to us. So locals are very worried about the shooter striking again.

I can't say we came away with any answers except that to see that the campground is a very easy target for anyone walking in from Las Virgenes Road. We couldn't see any obvious reasons of why that tent, why that particular spot. Or why the shooter would have either passed by or decided not to shoot at campsites that would have (if occupied, we still don't know) been closer to the walk in from the road.

As to the question random or targeted?, no idea. The 'targeted' category breaks down into person-targeted and place-targeted – was the shooter after a specific person or was the shooter targeting the park campground or CPS as some sort of retributive measure? Or did the shooter just walk in from the road, fire multiple shots and slip back into the night? No way to know but all of those things are chillingly possible.

What it doesn't seem like is a plinker at night firing obliviously in the hills. Not at all. Whoever did this knew that he/she was shooting at the campground from relatively close range, even if they weren't aware of the immediate outcome.

And even with LASD's promise of increased patrols, the current reality in the MCSP area is not so promising. Very recently (mentioned on this thread) another body was dumped off Piuma Rd, which would lead you to believe that the patrols' presence has not been notd by the people who look for isolated spots in which to dump bodies. That doesn't exactly inspire confidence that they're deterring a possibly serial shooter and/or killer.

Let's hope there's a break in this case soon and that a state park campground can be a safe place for friends and families again.
Excellent report, and thank you!!!! I should have snipped the quote, but am a dunce and wasn't sure how to and didn't take the time... I'm sure more questions will be coming your way and appreciate it!
 
Reminds me of the Jenner Beach murders. Most campgrounds have a locked gate at night, so I suspect the killer walked in and randomly chose his victim, perhaps aided by a red light. Really surprised the gunshots in ALL the cases didn't wake up and alarm campers. A bear got in my campground this summer and the Screams woke me up. <modsnipped> I think the Cali Parks system has been grossly negligent in responding to these incidents.
 
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The way this case (and the others in the area) has been handled, I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter was in one of the tents close by his and the shooter just went back inside. It doesn't sound like they actually checked any campers for guns or GSR, and stranger things have happened. I wonder if they've checked to see if the same person may have been camping there on the nights of each event. I also wonder if I'm just tired of following cases with no real leads, suspects, or much else other than rumors - for the integrity of cases that go nowhere. Must be bed time. MOO
 
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