Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #11

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  1. dotr

    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Pharma giant and philanthropists Barry and Honey Sherman found dead
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    http://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...sherman-hated-his-wife-and-wanted-her-whacked
     
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    Coldpizza WS Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Hi Everyone,

    Kerry Winter is now verified in Barry and Honey's case.

    As always, please treat Kerry Winter with respect.

    Remember Kerry Winter does not need to provide links to his posts and it's up to you whether to believe what Kerry Winter posts or not.

    Thank you
     
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    sillybilly WS Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    ADMIN NOTE:

    Barry and Honey Sherman and their family are victims.

    We are always very fortunate to have an insider join us and become a Verified Insider. We have a bit of a unique situation here with our VI also being related to Barry and Honey Sherman, and being very candid about their family history and feelings toward both the Shermans.

    Regardless of Kerry's feelings, he is still related to the victims, and as with any and all VIs and family members, please be respectful in all your questions to them and comments about them.

    At all times, please keep in mind our usual policy as it relates to how you communicate with our VI, and in your comments about the Shermans.

    Excerpt from The Rules: Etiquette & Information

     
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    Please continue...
     
  7. dotr

    dotr Well-Known Member

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    BS continued his association with FD'A even after his investments were lost and FD'A seems to be a big defender of BS, despite the control he held of his house and everything else.
    fwiw, imo. rbbm.
    A meal with Frank D'Angelo: Pitchman, entrepreneur, auteur - Macleans.ca
    "The “we” in this case is Frank and his best friend, Barry Sherman. The chairman of Apotex Inc., Canada’s largest generic drug maker, Sherman is ranked as the country’s 11th-wealthiest person, with a net worth of US$5.3 billion. “He’s a brilliant man. He’s partners in everything that I do,” says D’Angelo. “I trust his judgment. I’m out there. He’s the ABS brakes on my situation as a human being.” They met in 2002, when Sherman was selling a factory he had acquired in Tiverton, Ont., that also contained a small brewery. The relationship blossomed, with Sherman’s Wasanda Enterprises extending more and more financing for D’Angelo’s beverage dreams. At the time of the $120-million 2007 bankruptcy, Sherman was really the only creditor, and held the paper on everything Frank owned, including his home at the time, in Toronto’s Forest Hill neighbourhood."

    Contains some salty language.
     
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    Frank, considered Barry his 'partner' and best friend.

    I wonder if the heirs of the Shermans will want to collect what is owed by Frank.

    I would speculate Frank was one of the people with the most to lose with Barry's death.
     
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    I suppose that might depend on whether Barry was going to keep funding his ventures, or he planned to cut him off and call in any loans he had outstanding. In that case, FD could have had a lot to gain with Barry’s death, depending on what he thought the heirs might do. Jmo, but there are 2 sides to the FD situation
     
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    What an unlikely couple BS and FD must have been.
    What on earth induced Barry to give him so much money?
     
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    If Barry’s loans were all papered, Frank was likely in a position to receive more forebearance from Barry than the estate. The executors are obligated to act in a legal and commercial manner; Barry himself could be a nice guy and not collect. The beneficiaries could ask the executors to be forgiving, possibly.

    Very strange that Barry invested in so many weird schemes. Maybe it was a form of recreation for him. It’s possible that some of his dealings in this world exposed him to some unsavoury types.
     
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    Kerry Winter wrote this here about two weeks ago:

    The above threat of a charge sounds as if this was an interrogation. It sounds like an accusation based on evidence, as opposed to an interview to gather information from Kerry’s friend.

    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #10

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    With the bankruptcy laws in Ontario, would Frank (FDA) have been able to keep his home?

    *He* pays for his talk show, the expensive movies he has made were all financial failures. I see money going out on his ventures, but little indication of money coming in.

    If he was able to keep his home, how does he support himself in that lifestyle with an expensive house?

    2007 he filed for bankruptcy, the same year the Winter/Barkin cousins launched their lawsuit against BS.

    In the Canlii documents of the cousins’ lawsuit, BS was asked to provide financial records. Curious to know if FDA’s bankruptcy was connected to that request-BS cleaning his financial house.
     
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    The way I understood KW's statement is that TPS suggested a conspiracy to commit murder charge in relation to his admission that he conspired to kill HS in the 1990's. Just checking, is that how others read it?
     
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    Was Frank’s bankruptcy personal or corporate?

    It sounds like Barry Sherman, either personally or through a corporation held a private mortgage on the home. It’s possible he wasn’t demanding repayment.

    Most private mortgages that I’ve seen have pretty lender-friendly clauses, as you would expect.

    I think personal bankrupts can keep their home equity in certain circumstances.

    Frank is a mystery to me. I don’t know if his family made so much money in apple juice and real estate that he can keep all this going. Nobody likes his show, music or movies. Or him personally.
     
  16. dotr

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    That is not how i read it, but just as well he did not pass the televised polygraph....imo.
     
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    There could be three scenarios, in my view, based on Kerry Winter stating he was part of a conspiracy to commit murder plot:

    -LE may have had another look at the murder of Landis Heal. Before his death, Kerry’s brother Dana Winter was charged with conspiracy to commit the murder of Mr. Heal. Kerry’s current claim, and the actual crimes linked to Dana, took place around the same time. Kerry may be being truthful about being part of a conspiracy, but maybe it is for a different past event. **speculation.

    -The police were threatening Kerry’s friend with charges related to the Sherman murders. They believe the friend was complicit.

    -The police were telling the friend that Kerry may be facing conspiracy to commit murder related to the deaths of the Shermans, and they were seeking the friend’s cooperation.
     
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    This person's house was also financed by BS, but unsure if he was going to call the loan in at some point, or if it will be now? rbbm.
    Judge greenlights lawsuit alleging Barry Sherman's company stole rival's trade secrets - Macleans.ca
    "Why Desai left his job so suddenly remains a mystery; in a prepared statement last week, Apotex would only say his resignation was “effective immediately” and that “we thank Jeremy for his contributions and wish him success in the next phase of his career.” Berman, the company spokesman, told Maclean’s today that “the announcement of Jeremy’s resignation and the police update of the same day are completely unrelated. Dr. Desai’s resignation is in no way connected to the death of Dr. Sherman.”


    "When Sherman was alive, Desai appeared to enjoy a close relationship with the company founder and chairman. In fact, as The Globe and Mail first reported last week, it was Sherman who provided the mortgage for the upscale Toronto home that Desai and his wife, Kalpna, purchased when they first moved to Canada in 2003. The loan document, filed at Toronto’s land registry office, shows that Sherman lent the couple $3.15 million—at zero interest, and without a regular payment schedule. The mortgage is due “on demand,” records show, and 15 years later no discharge has been filed, suggesting the loan remains outstanding."
     
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    I suspect the lender would make demand upon termination of the employment relationship. If there was a severance agreement, a period of forbearance would likely have been negotiated and stipulated. It’s also possible his employment agreement included provisions on the mortgage.
     
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    “Sherman rarely gives interviews, but D’Angelo is able to get him on the phone in short order and twist his arm. In the course of a five-minute conversation, he describes Frank as a “hard worker” at least eight times. Their business past was a disappointment, he acknowledges. “Some calculation errors were made that resulted in a substantial loss,” says Sherman, specifying that D’Angelo spent far too much promoting his brands and not enough distributing them. Yet that has no bearing on their current partnership. “When I make decisions, it’s always looking forwards, not backwards,” says Sherman. “And in terms of the films, I believe in him. The value substantially exceeds the costs.” The profits have yet to materialize, but Sherman doesn’t seem too worried. “I like helping people and Frank deserves to succeed.” We should all be lucky enough to have a friend like Barry...”
    A meal with Frank D'Angelo: Pitchman, entrepreneur, auteur - Macleans.ca
     
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