Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #15

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ldlager said:
Lexi thanks for the lengthy timeline. FYI the TPS website continues to state that police responded at 12.46, not 11.46 as has been generally circulated.
I don’t know why they can’t fix this if it is an error.......
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YW. I’ll add that to the timeline, I had forgotten that!
 
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There must be a big reason that no one, other than Jonathon, wants anything to to with Adam, IMO.

My biggest question I have is what might have happened if Barry had lived and found out they did nothing to secure a mortgage to repay the $50-60 million as they had promised. Would he have called his loans to them and their businesses would have toppled?

My feeling is that is what would have happened between December 15th-January 15th, as Barry was supplying them with millions on those two dates for their cash-flow problems, and in part so they could pay the fees necessary to obtain a mortgage.
 
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Does anyone know what $500 million Apotex lost, the reason the company was reportedly cash poor?

Canlii records Canadian lawsuits. I’ve searched their database and the only lawsuit I can find that has any resemblance is a $500 million failed appeal involving a lawsuit initiated by Apotex in 2014 against the Government of Canada. But that’s not indicative of Apotex having to fork out $500 million, they simply were unsuccessful in their bid to receive compensation. I can find no other reference to Apotex losing a lawsuit in 2017 requiring a payout and I don’t recall KD reporting it, odd as otherwise he’s generally very details orientated.

Drug company billionaire pulls out of Liberal cash-for-access fundraiser (not paylocked)
“Apotex is also suing the federal government for $500-million for banning the firm's drug imports from India. Mr. Morneau sits on the federal cabinet committee on litigation management, which deals with lawsuits against Ottawa.”

According to Canlii on Dec 14, 2017 - (note - one day after their murders)
The application for leave to appeal from the judgment of the2017 FCA 73, dated April 6, 2017, is dismissed with costs.
2017 CanLII 84242 (SCC) | Apotex Inc. v. Her Majesty the Queen | CanLII
 
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MistyWaters said:
Does anyone know what $500 million Apotex lost, the reason the company was reportedly cash poor?

Canlii records Canadian lawsuits. I’ve searched their database and the only lawsuit I can find that has any resemblance is a $500 million failed appeal involving a lawsuit initiated by Apotex in 2014 against the Government of Canada. But that’s not indicative of Apotex having to fork out $500 million, they simply were unsuccessful in their bid to receive compensation. I can find no other reference to Apotex losing a lawsuit in 2017 requiring a payout and I don’t recall KD reporting it, odd as otherwise he’s generally very details orientated.

Drug company billionaire pulls out of Liberal cash-for-access fundraiser (not paylocked)
“Apotex is also suing the federal government for $500-million for banning the firm's drug imports from India. Mr. Morneau sits on the federal cabinet committee on litigation management, which deals with lawsuits against Ottawa.”

According to Canlii on Dec 14, 2017 - (note - one day after their murders)
The application for leave to appeal from the judgment of the2017 FCA 73, dated April 6, 2017, is dismissed with costs.
2017 CanLII 84242 (SCC) | Apotex Inc. v. Her Majesty the Queen | CanLII
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I’ll keep searching, but it was involving a drug patent.
“In the weeks leading up to their deaths, Apotex lost a $500 million court case involving a drug patent. It had also just laid off numerous staff, and more cuts were coming”

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5860527

eta: on pg 145 Donovan said the case was settled in 2017 for $400 million, but no other details

eta2: not sure if this is it:Federal Court of Canada Rejects NIAs, and Strikes S. 8 Damages in LOSEC (omeprazole) Patent Infringement Damages Decision

Eta3: maybe? Pfizer obtains orders of prohibition on polymorphic form patent
 
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Lexiintoronto said:
I’ll keep searching, but it was involving a drug patent.
“In the weeks leading up to their deaths, Apotex lost a $500 million court case involving a drug patent. It had also just laid off numerous staff, and more cuts were coming”

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5860527

eta: on pg 145 Donovan said the case was settled in 2017 for $400 million, but no other details

eta2: not sure if this is it:Federal Court of Canada Rejects NIAs, and Strikes S. 8 Damages in LOSEC (omeprazole) Patent Infringement Damages Decision

Eta3: maybe? Pfizer obtains orders of prohibition on polymorphic form patent
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Pfizer looks like it was to its way to Appeal Court, decision in 2019.

2019 FCA 16 (CanLII) | Apotex Inc. v. Pfizer Canada Inc. | CanLII

One of the reasons I’m sort of interested in finding proof of this $500 million lawsuit is if it’s true Apotex was running short of cash there can be many other reasons for that especially if the owner isn’t a hands-on financial whiz, which Barry doesn’t seem to have been. But by now if the beneficiaries had any concerns I’m sure they’d have arranged for a forensic audit.

In the documents recently released JK didn’t seem to think it would’ve caused Barry any concern at all, nor did he even mention a large recent payout for a failed lawsuit which might’ve caused Barry to be scrambling to raise cash by calling in loans.

“In an interview with police on Dec. 17, 2017, the vice-chair of Apotex told investigators that Barry would never harm anyone or take his own life. He also noted that while Apotex was facing ongoing lawsuits and layoffs, Barry would not have been “fazed” by the company’s financial situation as the family had other money...”
It's been 3 years since Barry and Honey Sherman were found dead. Court documents reveal what we know so far
 
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Interesting that JS 'set up' a mortgage company just before the murders (in the fall of 2017 according to KD's book), (which mortgage business also lists AP as a 'director and partner'), AND had some cash 'sitting around for projects', but yet they weren't paying much attention to BS's urgent request that same fall, to mortgage their own assets to allow repayment of a portion of the funds owed to him. It's not like they didn't have those types of resources at their very fingertips, it seems!

From today's article:
(Jonathon Sherman and Tkatch have a mortgage company called Harlo Financial, set up just before the murders. Jonathon said in an interview he and partner Adam Paulin “had some cash sitting around for projects.”)
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From KD's ebook:
Jonathon is busy with Green Storage and a new business (Harlo Capital, a secondary market mortgage provider) he started in the fall of 2017. (ebook pg 272)
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It seems Harlo Capital is known by other names (ie Harlo Financial).

Website for Harlo Capital, same photos, email, address, etc. as Harlo Financial.
'Leadership' tab lists 'Adam Paulin'. (The same AP as JS's Paulin):

Adam Paulin
DIRECTOR & PARTNER
Adam Paulin is the President of Green Storage, a Self-Storage Development, Operating, Construction and Management Company. Adam also runs the Hour Group of Companies, which has investments in multiple classes of real estate. Prior to co-founding Green Storage and the Hour Group of Companies, Adam was the COO of Northern International, a CPG company. Adam helped grow the business from $30M in sales to over $150M in sales and ensured overseas manufacturing was completed in a productive and timely manner.

Adam graduated the Richard Ivey School of Business and studied International business at the University of Hong Kong. While working at Northern International, Adam completed his MBA at the Schulich School of Business focusing on Real Estate and Operations.

Leadership – Harlo Financial
 
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MistyWaters said:
Pfizer looks like it was to its way to Appeal Court, decision in 2019.

2019 FCA 16 (CanLII) | Apotex Inc. v. Pfizer Canada Inc. | CanLII

One of the reasons I’m sort of interested in finding proof of this $500 million lawsuit is if it’s true Apotex was running short of cash there can be many other reasons for that especially if the owner isn’t a hands-on financial whiz, which Barry doesn’t seem to have been. But by now if the beneficiaries had any concerns I’m sure they’d have arranged for a forensic audit.

In the documents recently released JK didn’t seem to think it would’ve caused Barry any concern at all, nor did he even mention a large recent payout for a failed lawsuit which might’ve caused Barry to be scrambling to raise cash by calling in loans.

“In an interview with police on Dec. 17, 2017, the vice-chair of Apotex told investigators that Barry would never harm anyone or take his own life. He also noted that while Apotex was facing ongoing lawsuits and layoffs, Barry would not have been “fazed” by the company’s financial situation as the family had other money...”
It's been 3 years since Barry and Honey Sherman were found dead. Court documents reveal what we know so far
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fwiw, In Donovan’s first big interview with Jonathon at his home, Jonathon said it was a $580 million judgement that they negotiated down and paid after the murders.

google is not my friend today.

ETA: edited out repetition
 
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Lexiintoronto said:
fwiw, In Donovan’s first big interview with Jonathon at his home, Jonathon said it was a $580 million judgement that they negotiated down and paid after the murders.

Jack Kay mentioned the loss in an article somewhere, he said that Barry had money to pay it, and they would have gone on and won other patent lawsuits.

google is not my friend today.
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Hmm well I still can’t find a Canlii record for any lawsuit finalized preceding the murders, just one of those things I suppose. Thanks for clarifying the amount. Any company is very unique if they’re able to “negotiate” a judgement because the dollar amount of a judgement is Court-ordered by a Judge.
 
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deugirtni said:
Interesting that JS 'set up' a mortgage company just before the murders (in the fall of 2017 according to KD's book), (which mortgage business also lists AP as a 'director and partner'), AND had some cash 'sitting around for projects', but yet they weren't paying much attention to BS's urgent request that same fall, to mortgage their own assets to allow repayment of a portion of the funds owed to him. It's not like they didn't have those types of resources at their very fingertips, it seems!

From today's article:
(Jonathon Sherman and Tkatch have a mortgage company called Harlo Financial, set up just before the murders. Jonathon said in an interview he and partner Adam Paulin “had some cash sitting around for projects.”)
---
From KD's ebook:
Jonathon is busy with Green Storage and a new business (Harlo Capital, a secondary market mortgage provider) he started in the fall of 2017. (ebook pg 272)
---
It seems Harlo Capital is known by other names (ie Harlo Financial).

Website for Harlo Capital, same photos, email, address, etc. as Harlo Financial.
'Leadership' tab lists 'Adam Paulin'. (The same AP as JS's Paulin):

Adam Paulin
DIRECTOR & PARTNER
Adam Paulin is the President of Green Storage, a Self-Storage Development, Operating, Construction and Management Company. Adam also runs the Hour Group of Companies, which has investments in multiple classes of real estate. Prior to co-founding Green Storage and the Hour Group of Companies, Adam was the COO of Northern International, a CPG company. Adam helped grow the business from $30M in sales to over $150M in sales and ensured overseas manufacturing was completed in a productive and timely manner.

Adam graduated the Richard Ivey School of Business and studied International business at the University of Hong Kong. While working at Northern International, Adam completed his MBA at the Schulich School of Business focusing on Real Estate and Operations.

Leadership – Harlo Financial
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From your link: Hour Group of Companies, which has investments in multiple classes of real estate

‘Hour’ was completely funded by BS, and the real estate he writes of were Green Storage, their cottage and maybe some other personal properties. Jonathon has said Green Storage is run by an independent management company.






 
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MistyWaters said:
Hmm well I still can’t find a Canlii record for any lawsuit finalized preceding the murders, just one of those things I suppose. Thanks for clarifying the amount. Any company is very unique if they’re able to “negotiate” a judgement because the dollar amount of a judgement is Court-ordered by a Judge.
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Please keep looking! Now I’m interested.

ETA: any chance it was with TEVA, and the pillow-talk lawsuit? I know that was about intellectual property theft, but maybe there’s a link?

ETA 2: SCC? AstraZeneca Canada Inc. v. Apotex Inc. - SCC Cases
 
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MistyWaters said:
Hmm well I still can’t find a Canlii record for any lawsuit finalized preceding the murders, just one of those things I suppose. Thanks for clarifying the amount. Any company is very unique if they’re able to “negotiate” a judgement because the dollar amount of a judgement is Court-ordered by a Judge.
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Possibly the lawsuit wasn’t filed or tried in Canada? Apotex has operations and owned businesses in a number of other countries around the world.
 
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I always feel like KD has an agenda for his articles. This recent series feels as if it's a prelude to something big. Will be a real anticlimax if we hear nothing more for months after these.
 
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Ooooh... shiny new thread!

A kind mod made us a media thread. The rough timeline is there. I tried to list the main events, turns, and links, if available.

KD’s SCC case isn’t there, but we can add the decision and other events as they unfold.

I’m hoping it can just be a framework and reference that we can build on if the case hopefully reaches a conclusion.

Canada - Barry & Honey Sherman, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 MEDIA, MAPS & TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*
 
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Coverage of the Sherman case seems a little over the top to this reader
Feb. 21, 2021
''Honey Sherman would have controlled the ‘net income’ of husband Barry’s multibillion-dollar fortune had she lived, sources reveal, Feb. 16

Why is the Toronto Star so obsessed with the Sherman case as to feature it on the front page on numerous occasions over the past three years?''

''Makes one suspicious about why this murder is so much more important than the dozens of other murders that occur annually in Toronto.''
 
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