CANADA Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #16

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  1. dotr

    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Pharma giant and philanthropists Barry and Honey Sherman found dead
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  2. Sillybilly

    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    ADMIN NOTE:

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    IF your information is coming from Kevin Donovan's book, please make that very clear, as in "KD states ...".

    Also please do NOT post inside information that could be LE holdback related to the actual crime scene.
     
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  4. Lexiintoronto

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    Interesting article, thank you for posting it. I wonder if any of the golf club members read the Star interview with JS.

    From the article you linked:

    “In a letter of intent, rather than a binding contract, Harlo offered to pay $110-million down. It then asked Beacon Hall members to accept a note for a $150-million mortgage that would initially pay 1.5-per-cent interest, and rise over time to 3 per cent. Harlo is pitching members on collecting interest payments that could potentially cover the cost of their annual golf fees. They could continue to play for the three to five years it is expected to take the developer to obtain the necessary permits.”

    ETA: @JayFriend — new related article
     
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  5. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Harlo Capital? Are you sure AP is a partner? What is your source? If he is I wouldn’t automatically assume he’s limited to riding on JS’s $hirt-tail.

    New offer for Beacon Hall Golf Club, Aurora On. | Golf Industry Network

    “Michael Kimel, President of Harlo Capital and part owner of the Pittsburgh Penguins”
    OverActive Media and Abigail Capital Corporation Announce Closing of $38 Million Financing
     
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  6. ldlager

    ldlager Well-Known Member

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    my source is their own website
    Leadership – Harlo Financial

    And he is also likely riding on Kimels coattails too. He and JS are longtime friends
     
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  7. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think we should assume assume Harlo Financial and Harlo Capital are one and the same just because both names contain the word Harlo as it appears they’re two different companies.

    BBM
    New offer for Beacon Hall Golf Club, Aurora On. | Golf Industry Network
    “ $260-million dollar offer from Harlo Capital

    About Harlo Capital – Harlo Capital
     
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  8. Lexiintoronto

    Lexiintoronto Well-Known Member

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    Harlo Financial and Harlo Capital are connected. This post goes into great detail: Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #15

    If you read the Globe and Mail linked article linked above, it quotes an employee that is listed on the company information page that Idlager linked. AP is listed there as well. JS said he and AP are partners in Harlo Capital

    It pertains to the Sherman murders because when BS asked JS and AP to obtain bank mortgages and repay him $50-60 million in 2017, they agreed. They apparently instead started Harlo and provided secondary market mortgages.
     
  9. MistyWaters

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    Okay thanks. Is there anything suspicious regarding the companies business? It just seems to me it’s connected to other unrelated people who have absolutely no connection to the murder of the Sherman couple.
     
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  10. deugirtni

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    At this point, how do we know who may or may not have any connection to the murder of the Sherman couple?
     
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    We just don’t know.

    But as long as TPS is making progress with the investigation, I’m hopeful we will one of these days!
     
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  12. dotr

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    Wondering how the new book about the Sackler family (Purdue Pharma) will fare compared to the book about the Shermans (The Billionaire Murders?)[​IMG]
    The New York Times

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...0fbfd4-9718-11eb-a6d0-13d207aadb78_story.html
    ''The family is the Sacklers, who until a few years ago most people knew only as the benefactors of universities and museums, including a Smithsonian gallery named for Arthur M. Sackler. But the clan, which made its fortune in the pharmaceutical business, was also the money and power behind Purdue Pharma, the maker of OxyContin, a potentially addictive pain medication that has played a key role in the opioid crisis.''

    2016
    How a little-known patent sparked Canada’s deadly opioid crisis
    ''In 2009, Purdue was again defending Patent '738 against a bid by Apotex, the Toronto-based generic-drug giant. Apotex called Purdue's claim that OxyContin reduced the number of dosages needed to kill pain, "a material misstatement made with deceptive intent."
     
  13. Lexiintoronto

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    The startup of Harlo is part of what occurred prior to December 13, 2017. I don’t know if or how it factors in to the murders, only that the company was formed around the time when BS had asked JS and AP to repay $50-60 million and they had agreed.

    JS mentioning starting Harlo: “Jonathon Sherman and Tkatch have a mortgage company called Harlo Financial, set up just before the murders. Jonathon said in an interview he and partner Adam Paulin “had some cash sitting around for projects.””
    Outline - Read & annotate without distractions

    (On page 307 of my ebook, Donovan mentions JS and AP starting Harlo Capital in the fall of 2017.)
     
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  14. MistyWaters

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    It appears several of the Sherman family members were actively involved in real estate in one way or another, including Barry prior to the murders. We don’t know if that was JS’s initial venture but even if it was it wouldn’t be surprising IMO.

    “The Shermans’ real estate holdings—apartment buildings, condos, commercial properties, rumoured private islands—were held via Sherfam Inc., Signet Realty and Weston, Fla.-based Sherm Realty, as well as trusts. At one point, Sherman owned Deerhurst Inn, an Ontario resort, but sold it after failing to obtain a casino licence. Just months before he was killed, he partnered with a prominent Toronto developer to provide $61.5 million in financing for the most buzzed-about condominium project in the country: The One, an 85-storey structure to be built at the corner of Yonge and Bloor.”
    Endless court battles, angry relatives and shady players: the truth about Barry Sherman
     
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    I understand. My confusion is about JS and AP starting a mortgage company providing loans when BS had asked them to repay $50-60 million, and they had agreed.
     
  16. MistyWaters

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    In one sense this could be considered a sort of mortgage company. Large investors invest capital, then that capital is invested back into projects generating a rate of return for the investors. Because banks are often fairly rigid in their requirements regarding large dollar financing, private investment companies can pose an attractive and alternative option. It’s all totally legit, could be said to be one of the ways the wealthy become even wealthier.
     
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    deugirtni Well-Known Member

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    It seems ironic that when a billionaire gave out many interest-free loans to his son that when a mere portion of the more recent money loaned was asked to be returned to assist with a critical cash-flow problem, with the billionaire requesting the son obtain a first mortgage from a bank, the son started up his own mortgage company to loan out (perhaps his father's interest-free) money, charging fees and interest to the secondary market.

    The son seemed disinterested, unable, or unwilling to cough it up, even though the billionaire was asking for that assistance in a time of need.
     
  18. ldlager

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    Maybe the son knew there was no real need to secure the mortgage?
     
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    And we patiently wait.
     
  20. Kerry Winter

    Kerry Winter Verified Family - Barry and Honey Sherman

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    You’ll all be waiting a long time for the arrest of the multiple murderers....don’t hold your breath!
     

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