Identified! Canada - Toronto, Fem 20-40, Red Armani shirt, nail design, Dismem'd in bags, Mar'22 - Tien Ly *guilty verdict*

[JDG]

‘Do you know that lady?’ Crown psychiatrist assessed accused Toronto murderer from courtroom gallery, defence reveals

“To come to an opinion about someone’s mental health based on that, I think that would be almost a dereliction,” the defence’s own psychiatrist said.

www.thestar.com

Yep, going for PTSD excuse.

Is it murder?? Yes.

Did he do it?? Yes.

NCR, here we come perhaps.

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, May 14th:
*Trial continues (Day 8) (@ am ET) - Canada – Thanh “Tien” Ly (46) (found Mar. 28, 2022 on a sidewalk in the area of Eastern & Berkshire avenues, west of Leslie Street, around 1:30pm in a garbage bag dismembered; ID'd on Mar. 31, 2022, Toronto) - *Dallas Ly (20/now 22) son arrested & charged (4/2/22) & arraigned (4/3/22) with 2nd degree murder. Plead not guilty. Remanded to custody (4/3/22).
Trial began on 4/29/24. Crown rested their case on 5/7/24. Defense started on 5/8/24.
Justice Alfred O'Marra presiding. Assistant Crown attorney Jay Spare. Defense lawyer Marco Sciarra.
Case & court info from 3/28/22 thru 4/3/22 & Trial Days 1-6 (4/29-5/9/24) reference post #100 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-dismemd-in-bags-mar22-tien-ly.617112/page-5
5/13/24 Monday, Trial Day 7: Defense witness: Psychiatrist Dr. Mitesh Patel, who interviewed Ly on several occasions & found that he has post-traumatic stress disorder due to abuse by his mother, as well as a major depressive disorder.
for more info see posts #101 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-dismemd-in-bags-mar22-tien-ly.617112/page-6
Trial continues Tuesday, 5/14/24.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

The defence is arguing that Dallas had PTSD from abuse by his mother. The psychiatrist testifying for the Crown believes the murder itself caused his symptoms:

“Dr. Alina Iosif, a psychiatrist called on by the Crown, agreed that Ly exhibits PTSD symptoms, but said the source of those symptoms stemmed from the killing of his mother.

"To be anxious around someone who is critical of you is not a PTSD symptom, it's just a fact of life," Iosif said in court Tuesday.

Iosif didn't interview Ly but sat in on his testimony and also heard Patel's evidence and read his reports. She said she doesn't agree Ly met the bar for PTSD at the time of the stabbing, challenging Patel's diagnoses of Ly.”

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7203676

 

[nao]

Moo..there is no mention of father. He may be a son of shame. He would be nothing but a burden, and treated as a lesser being....moo

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Moo..there is no mention of father. He may be a son of shame. He would be nothing but a burden, and treated as a lesser being....moo

His father was briefly mentioned:

“Greenwood asked Dallas about his background. He told the court he only finished grade 11 and struggled in school. His mother also told him after his father left them, when he was 11, she told him his father had passed away in Vietnam after associating with bad people. Dallas said he only learned that his father was still alive when he found out his father had been interviewed by police.”

Ontario man on trial for killing his mother takes the stand: ‘I lost it’ | Globalnews.ca

Dallas Ly of Toronto told the court how, since the age of six, his mother Tien Le had been physically abusive towards him when he got poor grades at school or misbehaved.

globalnews.ca

 

[JDG]

MANDEL: Did PTSD make him do it? Psychiatrists disagree on mom killer

Duelling psychiatrists were the final witnesses at the murder trial of Dallas Ly, who says he suffered a lifetime of abuse by mom he killed

torontosun.com

Toronto man likely developed PTSD after dismembering mother, Crown psychiatrist tells court - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

Dallas Ly has admitted to fatally stabbing his mother, Tien Ly, on the night of March 27, 2022, in the Leslieville condominium they shared but testified he never meant to kill her.

globalnews.ca

Court sits again on Thursday.

 

[Niner]

Yes - I saw that @JDG - quote from article above.

The jury was told they’ve now heard all the evidence and lawyers will deliver their closing submissions on Thursday. They’re expected to begin deliberations after Superior Court Justice Alfred O’Marra charges the jurors next Tuesday.

And then not until next Tuesday.

And THANKS for all those articles! Finally the reporters are reporting!

 

[Niner]

Thursday, May 16th:
*Trial continues (Day 9)-Closing Arguments (@ am ET) - Canada – Thanh “Tien” Ly (46) (found Mar. 28, 2022 on a sidewalk in the area of Eastern & Berkshire avenues, west of Leslie Street, around 1:30pm in a garbage bag dismembered; ID'd on Mar. 31, 2022, Toronto) - *Dallas Ly (20/now 22) son arrested & charged (4/2/22) & arraigned (4/3/22) with 2nd degree murder. Plead not guilty. Remanded to custody (4/3/22).
Trial began on 4/29/24. Crown rested their case on 5/7/24. Defense started on 5/8/24 & rested on 5/14/24. Closing argument start on Thursday, 5/16/24 & Jury deliberations expected to follow on Tuesday, 5/22/24.
Justice Alfred O'Marra presiding. Assistant Crown attorney Jay Spare. Defense lawyer Marco Sciarra.
Case & court info from 3/28/22 thru 4/3/22 & Trial Days 1-7 (4/29-5/13/24) reference post #102 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-dismemd-in-bags-mar22-tien-ly.617112/page-6
5/14/24 Tuesday, Trial Day 8: I “think” the defense rested after Dr. Patel testified. Dr. Alina Iosif, a psychiatrist called on by the Crown.
*The jury will hear closing arguments from the Crown & defense Thursday, 5/16/24, with jury deliberations expected to follow starting next Tuesday, 5/22/24.
for more info see post #106 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-dismemd-in-bags-mar22-tien-ly.617112/page-6
Trial continues Thursday, 5/16/24 with closing arguments.

 

[JDG]

A Toronto man killed his mother and decapitated her. His lawyers argue it wasn't murder

A ‘lifetime of abuse’ led Dallas Ly to snap and repeatedly stab his mother inside their Leslieville apartment in 2022 but he never intended to kill her, his defence lawyers argued during his murder trial in Toronto on Thursday.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

Toronto man killed his mother and decapitated her -- but it wasn't murder, lawyers argue

A ‘lifetime of abuse’ led Dallas Ly to snap and repeatedly stab his mother inside their Leslieville apartment in 2022 but he never intended to kill her, his defence lawyers argued during at his murder trial in Toronto on Thursday.

www.cp24.com

 

[JDG]

MANDEL: Jury hears opposing scenarios at trial of man who killed mom

Each side painted a different portrait of what happened in that blood-soaked Toronto condo when a son drew his hunting knife on his mother.

torontosun.com

 

[JDG]

Jury deliberations begin at trial for Toronto man accused of murdering, decapitating his mother - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

During the trial, Dallas Ly took the stand in his own defence admitting he killed his 50-year-old mother but said he never meant to kill her

globalnews.ca

 

[Niner]

Oops - missed posting for yesterday - had my notes in the wrong date!

Wednesday, May 22nd:
*Trial continues (Day 11)-VERDICT WATCH! (@ am ET) - Canada – Thanh “Tien” Ly (46) (found Mar. 28, 2022 on a sidewalk in the area of Eastern & Berkshire avenues, west of Leslie Street, around 1:30pm in a garbage bag dismembered; ID'd on Mar. 31, 2022, Toronto) - *Dallas Ly (20/now 22) son arrested & charged (4/2/22) & arraigned (4/3/22) with 2nd degree murder. Plead not guilty. Remanded to custody (4/3/22).
Trial began on 4/29/24. Crown rested their case on 5/7/24. Defense started on 5/8/24 & rested on 5/14/24. Closing argument start on Thursday, 5/16/24 & Jury deliberations expected to follow on Tuesday, 5/21/24.
Justice Alfred O'Marra presiding. Assistant Crown attorney Jay Spare. Defense lawyer Marco Sciarra.
Case & court info from 3/28/22 thru 4/3/22 & Trial Days 1-8 (4/29-5/14/24) reference post #108 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-dismemd-in-bags-mar22-tien-ly.617112/page-6
5/16/24 Thursday, Trial Day 9: Closing arguments by Defence co-counsel Jessyca Greenwood & assistant Crown attorney Jay Spare.
The trial will reconvene on Tuesday, 5/21/24 when Superior Court Justice Justice Paul Thomas O'Marra is expected to give his instructions to the jury.
for more info see posts #109 & 110 (articles) here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-dismemd-in-bags-mar22-tien-ly.617112/page-6
5/21/24 Tuesday, Trial Day 10: The jury which was sequestered to begin deliberations on Tuesday. In his final instructions to the jury, Superior Court Justice Brian O’Marra told six men & six women that to convict Dallas Ly of second-degree murder, the Crown must have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Ly, who was 21 years old at the time, intended to kill his mother, Tien Ly, or ought to have known the bodily harm he caused was likely to cause her death & was reckless. Around 4 p.m.Tuesday, the jury returned with a question for the judge asking if they could have a transcript of Dallas’ testimony since they had “conflicting memories of some of his statements.” O’Marra told the jury to rely on their collective memory of the evidence. “If there are areas of interest, we can review our collective notes & recount those areas of interest or alternatively, playbacks of the evidence can be arranged.”
for more info see post #111 (article) here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-dismemd-in-bags-mar22-tien-ly.617112/page-6
Jury deliberations continue on Wednesday, 5/22/24.

 

[dotr]

CBC Wed, 22 May 2024

Dallas Ly found guilty of 2nd-degree murder in mother's death, dismemberment

WARNING: This story contains graphic and disturbing details of violence.A jury has found Dallas Ly guilty of second-degree murder in the 2022 death of his mother, Tien Ly, after one day of deliberations.The 23-year-old had admitted to stabbing his mother repeatedly in their Leslieville condo on...

uk.news.yahoo.com

'A jury has found Dallas Ly guilty of second-degree murder in the 2022 death of his mother, Tien Ly, after one day of deliberations.'

 

[JDG]

IMO, he was laying in wait for her to return to the condo.

He’d had enough, having to work at her salon etc.

He’s a lucky fella to get only second degree murder IMO.

MOO, JMO

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Catherine McDonald

@cmcdonaldglobal

#BREAKING After a day of deliberations, Dallas Ly has been found guilty of Second Degree Murder. Dallas testified in his own defence that on March 27, 2022 he stabbed & decapitated his mother Tien Ly but did not intend to kill her. The jury clearly did not believe his testimony

https://twitter.com/x/status/1793363956305666369

 

[JDG]

MANDEL: Jury rejects abuse defence, convicts son of murdering his mom

Jury didn't accept that he was provoked into stabbing his mom 27 times after a lifetime of abuse

torontosun.com

Hearing May 31 to determine parole eligibility.

Automatic life sentence.

 

[Niner]

Friday, May 31st:
*Sentencing Hearing (@ am ET) - Canada – Thanh “Tien” Ly (46) (found Mar. 28, 2022 on a sidewalk in the area of Eastern & Berkshire avenues, west of Leslie Street, around 1:30pm in a garbage bag dismembered; ID'd on Mar. 31, 2022, Toronto) - *Dallas Ly (20/now 22) son arrested & charged (4/2/22) & arraigned (4/3/22) with 2nd degree murder. Plead not guilty. Remanded to custody (4/3/22).
Trial began on 4/29/24. Crown rested their case on 5/7/24. Defense started on 5/8/24 & rested on 5/14/24. Closing argument start on Thursday, 5/16/24 & Jury deliberations ended on Tuesday, 5/22/24. Verdict: Guilty of 2nd degree murder. Sentencing on 5/31/24.
Justice Alfred O'Marra presiding. Assistant Crown attorney Jay Spare. Defense lawyer Marco Sciarra.
Case & court info from 3/28/22 thru 4/3/22 & Trial Days 1-10 (4/29-5/21/24) reference post #112 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-dismemd-in-bags-mar22-tien-ly.617112/page-6
5/22/24 Wednesday, Trial Day 11: Jury continues deliberations. A jury has found Dallas Ly guilty of second-degree murder in the 2022 death of his mother, Tien Ly, after one day of deliberations. Following the murder conviction, five jurors suggested Ly serve the minimum 10 years being eligible for parole. Three others suggested 15 years. The judge will make the final decision. Ly will be sentenced to an automatic sentence of life in prison but a hearing will be held 5/31/24 to determine his parole eligibility.
for more info see posts #113 & 116 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-dismemd-in-bags-mar22-tien-ly.617112/page-6
Sentencing hearing on Friday, 5/31/24.

 

[JDG]

Ontario man apologizes for murdering, decapitating his mother | Globalnews.ca

Dallas Ly apologized and thanked those friends who had stood by him over the past two years.

globalnews.ca

Judge will announce parole eligibility next month.

 

[Niner]

Ontario man apologizes for murdering, decapitating his mother | Globalnews.ca

Dallas Ly apologized and thanked those friends who had stood by him over the past two years.

globalnews.ca

Judge will announce parole eligibility next month.

So.... no date for next month.... I''ll see if I can find other articles with maybe the date in it.

Thanks @JDG for posting articles on this case!

 

[Niner]

Ah! Found an article with the sentencing date!

MANDEL: Apologetic mom killer gets support from his victim's family

They'd have every right to abandon him. But despite brutally killing and dismembering his mom, his aunt and grandma are standing by him

torontosun.com

May 31, 2024
.....
Before O’Marra left to consider his ruling, which he’s scheduled to deliver June 26, Ly was offered an opportunity to address the court.