CBS - 48 Hours - Buried Truth episode 12 November 2016 - 9pm central

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  1. PositiveLight

    PositiveLight Active Member

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    I was curious about the same thing!
    You explained exactly my thoughts!
     


  2. PositiveLight

    PositiveLight Active Member

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    CHILLS.
    Exactly WHAT did he love doing Mother? He had been in prison 15 years.... how did he even have a clue what he enjoyed? Or how did SHE know what he enjoyed?
    I have a scary feeling mother covered up a lot of earlier crimes that he committed when he was young. She finally got scared enough to send him to his dad's. Obviously she knew he was capable of murder..... otherwise why lock him in his room and lock her own doors?
    I need to figure out where exactly he lived growing up before his crime that got him arrested.
    I wouldn't be surprised to find very young kids missing or found dead near where he grew up. This monster started early.
     
  3. PositiveLight

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    Don't forget...
    She weathered Hurricane Matthew during her captivity. Can you imagine the horror of hearing that in the container? Plus the heat and humidity after the hurricane. Bless her heart! I pray every day for her healing. I can't even imagine.
     
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    I feel you with the tot!
    Grandbaby has a virus right now! :scared:
     
  5. PositiveLight

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    And promise there's no other bodies....
    Refresh my memory.... did she know prior to their discussion, that there was possibly 2 other bodies on the property? I can't remember at the moment. :thinking:
     
  6. PositiveLight

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    OMG.First link.
    The interviewer seems dumbfounded! LOL
    Anyone in real estate can answer a question for me? How often can someone sell a house a day?... In the market at that time.... Is it just me or was he really selling his mom some BS?
    "Easy for him to entertain himself..." no kidding... :banghead:
    "They embarrassed him..." OMG :banghead:
    WHY in the heck does she tell the story of him hiding from her when he was little? Trying to distract much, mother?
    UGH.
    "It's not like daily he went out and killed somebody. There was a lot of time between the first ones and the others"
    Hey lady... those victims have names. :gaah:
    "But he wasn't a serial killer *fake cries* "
    OMG. This woman is trying to DEFEND him.
    I did catch an earlier ss of her during this video from when he was young. It may not be anything but...
    I see a little bit of similarities between his mother and victims.... I almost added the female from the superbike murders but I don't think those killings had the same motivations.
    Mods if this photo isn't allowed feel free to remove it. I just found it ..."interesting" once I saw what she looked like as a young mother.
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  7. PositiveLight

    PositiveLight Active Member

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    You always catch the things I find curious too!
    Makes me wonder if this is where TK got his tall tale story telling from. (Lying basically.)
    I agree on everything you mentioned! My same thoughts!

    O/T but once my brother caught his head in a spiral staircase between the rails, at a local store. They called the fire dept. They got his head out... without full gear on... and obviously he wasn't missing...... He passed away almost 6 years ago (Thanksgiving is the anniversary) and when I remember these little things it always makes me laugh and smile. Mainly because I was worse than him at getting stuck in things all the time! LOL But I learned it from the master! lol
     
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    After reading your post, I had to remind myself that TK would've been 32 years old at the time, not 12. The way RT tells the story, TK is a little boy being forced to ride a bike with no experience in a field of high grass. Of course he fell. He was set up. Then they all laughed at TK, victimizing him even more. I do believe his ego was in play. Recalling that he was 32, is it possible that he had the bike insured, wrecked it, said it was stolen and went to SB to get another, bigger bike? I have to believe TK could have just as easily gone to another bike shop. But he wanted to walk in with something to prove to them. Maybe they doubted the story of the 1st bike being stolen, too.

     
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    She mentioned a second visit. I seem to remember the second visit was after he had already shown them the 2 grave locations.
     
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    I can't even begin to imagine. I think often about the total darkness inside the container. I personally didn't like the references to her being chained like a dog. Who would treat a dog that way? RT said she had a pet store, was she also desensitized by his treatment of animals? Then, as a child, he begins to transfer this abuse to people. Wasn't it reported that KB's dog crate was missing from their apartment? I pray that she is surrounded by loving support and remains strong through her healing.

    http://www.greenvilleonline.com/sto...ng-case-kohlhepp-called-devil-chain/93311850/

     
  11. soanyway

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    IIRC, TK failed to tell RT about JC and MC being murdered and buried on the property when he met with before confessing to the SB murders. Maybe he thought she couldn't handle it all at once. But she now says that he's assured her there are no more. Hmmm....

     
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    I wonder if RT felt betrayed?

     
  13. PositiveLight

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    Ok thank you! I couldn't remember!

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    Woah. Wait. She owned a pet store? When????? Holy crap! I did not remember this!
    This is jarring to me for some reason. She makes the statement that she had set him up for success doing what he loved to do....
    Did she also allow him to take his anger out as a child on innocent pets from the store? What was her statement regarding controlling his anger?
    If she did in fact own a pet store when he was young, no one would mention a dog or cat that goes missing from the store. She could simply say it died or was purchased. No one other than employees would even notice. Probably they may have even suspected him and didn't say anything in fear of loosing their job? Just speculating here mind you.
    But serial killers start with animals usually. I would almost bet he killed a child before he was arrested for the rape. Let's not forget if that gun hadn't misfired, that victim wouldn't have survived. I almost want to believe he actually intended to kill her. When the gun misfired, he changed up his plans. Maybe he planned on taking the gun he was holding when the LE arrived to return to her home to kill her. Why else would he be holding a gun like that immediately after committing that crime? I also think his daddy may have killed some girls. And he witnessed it. He knew way to much to successfully pull that crime off without a hitch. He was way too confident too in regards to letting her go. I think he rethought it and was heading to kill her when LE arrived. JMOO but that wasn't his first major crime by far. I think we do need to look into young victims before that crime. Ones he could easily control and scare.

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  15. PositiveLight

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    I keep wondering something.
    Why did he buy two motorcycles when he had never rode one and couldn't ride one?
    I think this is relevant to his EGO. He loved to brag. Maybe he thought having a motorcycle would attract the females. Like his neighbor said he loved to brag about all the things he could buy with his money.
    It is like he was trying to fit a certain profile that he pictured in his mind. A nice home, two nice cars, bunches of guns, bunch of land, motorcycles etc. I think he really thought all of the fluff would bring the girls. But he was very wrong. An empty soul is not attractive no matter what you own. People will see that no matter how hard you try.
    The police could have easily stopped his murder streak if they had just followed those leads early on.
    A simple background check should have been a massive red flag. Totally agree!
    Just the idea that he just thought he could hope on a motorcycle and ride it shows how full of himself he was.
    I guess in his mind anyone who embarrassed him should die.
    I am still trying to swallow the fact that his mother even SAID that. There is no excuse for taking an innocent person's life. Period.
     
  16. PositiveLight

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    Just reading the article so many questions come to my mind.
    Personally I don't see him as a devil on a chain. Being on a chain would actually mean someone was monitoring him. No one was. He was left alone all the time and he liked it like that. So I would say he's a devil with a ego.
    How old was the kid that he shoved in the dog crate? Same age or younger?
    I still think he committed at least one murder on a child before he was arrested the first time.
    He was home alone the night he committed the rape. So why use duct tape? Unless the other homes were too close by.
    I honestly feel he had seen someone being done like that and he copied what he saw.
    I'll just leave it at that.
    His dad had "30 girlfriends". Just wondering if some of those didn't make it home alive....
    He blamed his dad for his crime also.
    When asked what he thought the victim thought, he only spoke of how it effected him. Didn't even acknowledge the victim.
    Self absorbed to the highest degree.
    Also who the hell did he think he was at 15 telling the cops what he would like to be sentenced as (length wise). WTH?
    Can I add that I'm glad he was an only child! I have a feeling if he had siblings they would have "accidently" died.
    I DO think his mom more than likely covered up some of his earlier crimes.
    I do hope that are investigating any leads prior to his first arrest.
    The one "girlfriend" he supposedly had sex with once.... I actually think she was a victim and never came forward. That's very common. Especially during the time when he was young. A lot of victim blaming went on. Still does though really.
    I do wonder if he was possibly abused by his step father. Maybe mother ignored it or was just blind to it.
    This kid was messed up from birth though I think. I ALMOST wonder if maybe he has a mild form of fetal alcohol syndrome. But back then it wasn't really recognised.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_spectrum_disorder
    "Those affected are more likely to have trouble in school, legal problems, participate in high-risk behaviors"
    ​JMOO
     
  17. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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    snipped by me.

    Scroll down the page to Part2 video
    @ 5:40 on Part 2 interview with his mother she states she had a pet shop.

    http://wspa.com/2016/11/11/kohlhepps-mom-talks-about-his-childhood-anger-rape-kidnapping/
     
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    The tidbit about her having TK not being nice to MK's rat, Harry, and RT owning a pet shop is in the raw interview part 2 (about the 5:00 mark). The jail psych evaluation notes notes that the reason he was holding the gun when they located him after the rape was that he had intended to kill himself. IMO, the someone he is referring to that didn't want him to die could only be his mother. And here we are again with the embarrassment apparently passed on to him. Two misfires that night, maybe user error as in the motor bikes. If only he had stayed so inept with firearms.


    http://wspa.com/2016/11/11/kohlhepps-mom-talks-about-his-childhood-anger-rape-kidnapping/
    https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws...evaluation-madison-street-jail-1478284254.pdf


     
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  20. Gardener1850

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    I think the "Someone didn't want me to die yet" comment is a common euphemism people use to indicate they think God or some higher power kept them from dying. He probably heard it in a movie he watched.
     

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