Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #3

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  1. papertrail

    papertrail Active Member

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    I can't help but post this here; there is a pedestrian overbridge at the Claremont Railway Station and if you were to stand on it, you would have a perfect eye view of where Jane was standing. Could this have been where the abductor was standing prior to making his move ? The northern access to this overbridge is very close to Davies Road. There was also a public carpark where he may have parked his vehicle, out of view.
     

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    Watched the Con Bayens / Paul Ferguson interviews again and spotted something on one of the pin up boards. Could this be a partial shot of a prepared identikit?
     

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    Is this the MM talking with Jane and another person ? Man's haircut seems to be the same as MM

    Man appears to be holding and using a 'brick' mobile phone

    This miniscule piece of footage was deleted from a 2nd copy released by WA police.
     

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    If only we could see the whole face. Also good point about the pedestrian bridge. Could he have chosen all victims from up there? I think he is very good at reading body language, looking for someone single and approachable. Jane did look lonely and like she wanted someone to come talk to her.
     
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    My eyes went straight to your attached image before reading the text of your post - and my first thought was that he looked similar to MM. Is that footage available online somewhere? I've never seen that grab or any of it before.
     
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    Yes it would be good to see the whole face. I think he could only see Jane and Ciara from the bridge; and keep in mind that when Ciara arrived in Claremont with her friends, they parked their vehicle on Gugeri St opposite the Conti - you can see this carpark in the railway station photo I posted today. Sarah was in St Quentin so could not be viewed from the bridge. The experts say psychopaths are excellent readers of body language, personalty and know which person to hone in on; absolutely chilling.

    Jane looked very lonely and extremely vulnerable.
     
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    I agree, I think they may have all gone with him maybe with the intention of... canoodling, people do it all the time, even with strangers they've just met.
     
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    It is on the youtube video, it just flashes on screen for a millisecond. when I watch this CIA documentary, I pause/play each frame in that (any part re Jane at Claremont) particular section of the video and that is how I picked it up. You blink you miss it. I think this is why there was such a balls up when the video was released in 2008 because at the time the news services were reporting the incorrect video was released to the media prior to being televised.
     
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    I have a feeling he might have invited the girls to go onto somewhere else, like the a party or the casino or somewhere. With Sarah I always keep in mind that she was at Claremont the night before the 26th as well and went back to South Perth with the guy that didn't appear to have treated her too well. I've seen a news item somewhere about a photographer that believed he witnessed her on the ground floor of the flat complex she lived at; which supported the evidence of the taxi driver.
     
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    i think jane looked like an absolutely normal girl, when the nights ending and you haven't Found anyone special, its a little disappointing. And I find it interesting that all girls were single, and(correct me if I am wrong)lived without their parents. In perth not many people have moved out of home by 18 or 23 years, so I think he spoke with them and knew each of them would not be missed until probably Monday morning when they don't show for work.
     
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    I doubt he would have spotted SS from there but he could have been in the upper level of the Coles carpark directly across for CBV or the rooftop car park of Times Square shopping centre (Avion Way).
     
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    absolutely. Hey sorry I'm sure this has probably been discussed but I've forgotten, did police ever talk to the guy Sarah was with the night before? Also why do you say he didn't treat her very well? Thanks.
     
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    Papertrail

    Very observant find on the possible composite and the video clip of JR talking to another man. I thought the hullabaloo about the release of the video was odd, this would help explain what really happened.

    Can anyone read the time stamp on the video?
     
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    The CSK could have stood on the Railway Station overbridge, but how does this fit in with the luring the girls away? Or are you referring to two separate theories?
     
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    When did the photographer believe he witnessed Sarah on the ground floor of her flat complex? The night/early morning she went missing (a.m. hours of Jan 27)? Or the previous evening?

    The SR reports I've seen refer to the 25th (although I may have read he originally said he didn't know what night he was remembering).
     
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    It may have been discussed, but it's been deleted if it was. I have heard offhand references to this.

    Edit to add: I'm not talking about the SR taxi stranger who supposedly hurried Sarah out of the taxi, so if that's who y'all are discussing, then I guess you can ignore this comment.
     
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    Not that it makes any difference but the location that Bayens stumbled across plastic-lined boot man was;

    Brigatti Garden
    Cnr Broome St/Wright St
    Highgate
     
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    I'm not sure either.
     
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    Do you by any chance have a link to the interviews?

    Also, in the above image the lights at Stirling/Barnfield/Gugeri is marked as a danger zone. Could this sugesst this was the location of the "stop sign" abduction attempt (even though it's not a stop sign)?
     
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    Have you got the full 1:08 footage?

    That could be MM but that poses the question, if that's MM and police spoke to every person inside Conti then how come they don't know who he is?
     
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