Identified! CO - Douglas Co, Hwy 67 near Horse Creek, WhtFem 13-20, 154UFCO, Jun'93 - Rebecca ‘Becky’ Redeker

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brideofchaotica2 said:
I did submit Elaine a while back, but did not hear anything on her and never saw her name added to the exclusion list. I sent another request to the Doe Network potential match panel today just in case, despite the difference in estimated age.
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Since Elaine is missing from Canada, it will probably take a long time to hear about a possible match. There's a lot of international protocol that needs to be followed. Not as bad as it used to be but still time consuming.
 
Has anyone on here taken a look at Paget Barr? She is a little over the age range, but she has a young-looking face. Everything else matches up. She was dating an enforcer with the Hells Angels. It's possible the splenectomy was something that happened after her going missing. Typically they are done because of a ruptured spleen most commonly caused by abdominal trauma. Could be she had a motorcycle accident..?
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Dawn Silvernail is another possibility. There isn't much to go on with her but it does say she has an abdominal scar. Right age, and weight. Height is a little off but they're typically approximate.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Just some thoughts.
 
brideofchaotica2 said:
I did submit Elaine a while back, but did not hear anything on her and never saw her name added to the exclusion list. I sent another request to the Doe Network potential match panel today just in case, despite the difference in estimated age.
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Elaine Allenbach is now listed under the exclusions on NamUs. Did they ever get back to you? Not sure which exclusions are new, but there are now 97 rule-outs for RFJD.
 
cadetcallie said:
Elaine Allenbach is now listed under the exclusions on NamUs. Did they ever get back to you? Not sure which exclusions are new, but there are now 97 rule-outs for RFJD.
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Exclusions:
MP2707 Robin Abrams 10/04/1990 Will IL
MP4528 Elaine Allenbach 03/01/1986 King WA
MP2538 Donna Barnhill 03/18/1981 Davidson NC
MP1337 Ramona Beal 05/19/1985 San Bernardino CA
MP5841 Susan Bender 04/25/1986 Stanislaus CA
MP4049 Wilda Mae Benoit 07/23/1992 Cameron LA
MP5353 Lurline Bergeron 07/01/1991 Palm Beach FL
MP2928 Kristy Booth 02/02/1980 Midland TX
MP4058 Dedra Bracken 07/13/1992 St. Tammany LA
MP4058 Dedra Bracken 07/13/1992 St. Tammany LA
MP914 Tara Breckenridge 08/04/1992 Harris TX
MP5879 Joyce Brewer 09/06/1970 Dallas TX
MP2566 Kellie Brownlee 05/20/1982 Oakland MI
MP5892 Stephanie Buehler 09/08/1990 Harris TX
MP7172 Sherry Bynum 08/09/1987 El Paso CO
MP654 Tara Calico 09/20/1988 Valencia NM
MP22576 Michaelle Champagne 06/01/1993 Spokane WA
MP5940 Judith Chartier 06/05/1982 Middlesex MA
MP2301 Misty Copsey 09/17/1992 Pierce WA
MP2301 Misty Copsey 09/17/1992 Pierce WA
MP2516 Jillian Cutshall 08/14/1987 Madison NE
MP5644 Bonnie Dages 04/28/1993 Hillsborough FL
MP5644 Bonnie Dages 04/28/1993 Hillsborough FL
MP21070 Tammy Daniel 06/02/1987 Raleigh WV
MP21070 Tammy Daniel 06/02/1987 Raleigh WV
MP5993 Monique Daniels 06/02/1992 Cleveland OK
MP4711 Andrea Durham 02/01/1990 Okaloosa FL
MP4711 Andrea Durham 02/01/1990 Okaloosa FL
MP8173 Christine Eastin 01/18/1971 Alameda CA
MP6049 Amy Fandel 09/05/1978 Kenai Peninsula AK
MP13437 Theresa Fischbach 05/24/1986 Harris TX
MP20555 Nerissa Franklin 12/30/1989 Jackson MS
MP49 Michaela Garecht 11/19/1988 Alameda CA
MP6136 Martha Green 04/15/1987 Dickson TN
MP2351 Brenda Green 07/02/1988 Tuscaloosa AL
MP2351 Brenda Green 07/02/1988 Tuscaloosa AL
MP4398 Cherry Greenman 09/14/1976 King WA
MP943 Cassandra Hailey 04/09/1988 York VA
MP4579 Evelyn Hartley 10/24/1953 La Crosse WI
MP1970 Margaret Holst 08/04/1977 Douglas NE
MP3979 Tinze Huels 10/27/1984 Hillsborough FL
MP5074 Wendy Huggy 04/07/1982 Pinellas FL
MP3982 Catrina Jackson 05/30/1986 Screven GA
MP4429 Pamela Jackson 05/29/1971 Clay SD
MP7780 Rita Jolly 06/29/1973 Clackamas OR
MP6251 Kimberly Kahler 01/01/1980 Los Angeles CA
MP1100 Hazel Klug 05/20/1986 Henrico VA
-- Samantha Terese Knight -- -- --
MP2484 Tracy Kroh 08/05/1989 Dauphin PA
MP2547 Kim Larrow 06/08/1981 Wayne MI
MP7660 Tina LAYTON 06/07/1990 Sacramento CA
MP530 Sabrina Long 08/14/1991 Bibb GA
MP3980 Debora Lowe 02/29/1972 Broward FL
MP1487 Stacie Madison 03/20/1988 Dallas TX
MP4644 Launa Merritt 02/23/1983 Onondaga NY
MP6401 Donna Mezo 02/18/1992 St. Clair IL
MP4431 Cheryl Miller 05/29/1971 Clay SD
MP3976 Kimberly Moreau 05/11/1986 Franklin ME
MP2878 Stacey Morrison 05/20/1993 Peoria IL
MP4677 Christi Nichols 12/10/1987 Dawson NE
-- Delphine Nikal 06/13/1990 -- --
MP1860 Kimberly Norwood 05/20/1989 Harrison TX
MP8051 Judith ODonnell 11/30/1980 New York NY
MP6480 Alexis Owens 04/15/1987 King WA
MP7051 Amy Pagnac 08/05/1989 Hennepin MN
MP634 Jennifer Pentilla 10/17/1991 Luna NM
MP6518 Jennifer Perry 07/30/1993 Monroe FL
MP6537 Kristina Porco 11/29/1986 Beaufort SC
MP1868 Shannon Potter 03/03/1984 Baltimore MD
-- Amber Potts-Jaffary -- -- --
MP7424 Sharon Pretorius 09/28/1973 Montgomery OH
MP4554 Debra Pscholka 06/05/1971 Riverside CA
-- Diane Reeves 12/26/1989 Whatcom WA
MP17318 Beth Rogers 06/11/1993 Trinity CA
MP2954 Tammy Rothganger 05/16/1984 Miller MO
MP6608 Cindy Rowles 08/16/1986 Ulster NY
MP7500 Nancy Scamurra 07/01/1984 Erie NY
MP2413 Tiffany Sessions 02/09/1989 Alachua FL
MP7083 Lisa Sexton 05/01/1981 Lorain OH
MP5658 Catherine Sjoberg 06/05/1974 Jefferson WI
MP6661 Amanda Slaughter 04/28/1991 Orange TX
MP989 Susan Smalley 03/20/1988 Dallas TX
MP8669 Kristen Smith 09/22/1991 Jefferson TX
MP5426 Deborah Spickler 07/24/1968 Tolland CT
MP1296 Mary Sprague 09/11/1979 Volusia FL
MP386 Carol Sullens 08/31/1991 Cherokee KS
MP6722 Michelle Thomas 10/05/1985 Galveston TX
MP6723 Laura Thompson 01/07/1993 Lawrence PA
MP6730 Pamela Tinsley 04/13/1986 Oklahoma OK
MP6763 Leah Van Schoick 08/15/1982 Broward FL
MP6787 Darci Warde 04/24/1990 King WA
MP3978 Darlene Webb 01/22/1983 Volusia FL
MP5517 Rochelle White 07/30/1973 Orange CA
MP2383 Sherri White 02/14/1990 Fairbanks North Star AK
MP2325 Tammie Wilkinson 06/21/1984 Jackson MO
MP6816 Kelly Wilson 01/05/1992 Upshur TX
MP6824 Elsa Wind 09/26/1992 Nevada CA
 
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Height: 5'6 to 5'8"
Weight: 140 to 160 lbs.
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Stocky build with large breasts and large hips. Approximate shoe size 6 or 7.

When I go back and look at this, and revisit it, I think for her to be described as "stocky" she really has to have been on the lower end of the height, or below it, and at, or exceeding, the upper end for weight.

A 5'8" woman who is 140 might have a large cup size, but she would only be described as "stocky" by someone who was letting their personal bias/opinion for very slender women enter in. I guess that could be possible, but I think we are *probably* looking for someone who was shorter and curvy. Also, while some taller women can have small feet, and vice versa, *if* her feet were a 6, that also seems to point to a shorter woman.

JMO!
 
Interesting point! NamUs has the height estimated as 5'3"-5'8", which could account for her being shorter and potentially within that weight range, but they seem to think she was on the taller end. I agree that "curvy" may be a better word to describe her, as a woman around 5'6" weighing 140 could still be relatively slender, but having a large breast and hip size would give her the appearance of having a stocky build/higher weight. 6/7 is a small shoe size, especially for a 5'8" woman! I could only find anecdotal evidence, and the average women's shoe size is 7/8, but it seems rare for a 5'8" woman to have a shoe size 6/7. Not impossible though... Average Shoe Size for Women: In the U.S. and Other Countries
 
The FBI has a NCMEC recon I haven't seen before. It is not added to Jane Doe's NCMEC page (yet).

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JANE DOE - PIKE NATIONAL FOREST, COLORADO — FBI
 
Link to YouTube live stream channel:
https://www.youtube.com/c/9news

Woman found dead in 1993 to be identified by Douglas County Sheriff's Office

From the link (it's blocked for users outside the US):

In 1993, a woman's remains were found in the Pike and San Isabel National Forests. The remains are believed to be those of a 20-year-old Colorado Springs woman.

The Douglas County Sheriff's Office (DCSO) will hold a press conference Thursday morning to identify the victim.

DCSO said that deputies were called to the area between Woodland Park and Deckers on June 15, 1993, where they found a makeshift campsite and the woman's remains.

A cold case detective received a tip in July that finally led to the identification of the woman, who spent most of her life in and around Colorado Springs and was reported missing, according to DCSO.

DCSO said the case has been examined many times over the years to see if any new investigative tools could help identify the victim.

The investigation into her death is still active, and anyone who may have information on the victim or her death is asked to contact DCSO at 303-660-7500.


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What a week this has been! Is this the third or fourth identification of a longtime Doe?? Holy macaroni!
 
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chaddylex said:
This is awesome! She finally gets her name back. This has been one of my "pet cases" for a very long time.
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She is one of so many people's "pet cases"! I love how so many people never gave up on helping her get identified!!! I used to live in the apartments next to the cemetery where she was buried before her remains were exhumed. I have waited many years for this day!!
 
brideofchaotica2 said:
She is one of so many people's "pet cases"! I love how so many people never gave up on helping her get identified!!! I used to live in the apartments next to the cemetery where she was buried before her remains were exhumed. I have waited many years for this day!!
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I am shocked she was a local! I was thinking she was from somewhere else in the US or even Canada!
 
Mrs. Badcrumble said:
Link to YouTube live stream channel:
https://www.youtube.com/c/9news

Woman found dead in 1993 to be identified by Douglas County Sheriff's Office

From the link (it's blocked for users outside the US):

In 1993, a woman's remains were found in the Pike and San Isabel National Forests. The remains are believed to be those of a 20-year-old Colorado Springs woman.

The Douglas County Sheriff's Office (DCSO) will hold a press conference Thursday morning to identify the victim.

DCSO said that deputies were called to the area between Woodland Park and Deckers on June 15, 1993, where they found a makeshift campsite and the woman's remains.

A cold case detective received a tip in July that finally led to the identification of the woman, who spent most of her life in and around Colorado Springs and was reported missing, according to DCSO.

DCSO said the case has been examined many times over the years to see if any new investigative tools could help identify the victim.

The investigation into her death is still active, and anyone who may have information on the victim or her death is asked to contact DCSO at 303-660-7500.


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What a week this has been! Is this the third or fourth identification of a longtime Doe?? Holy macaroni!
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Yes! This has proven that genealogy identification is reliable!
 
Is the live streaming active? I went to see it but it said that they were streaming 3 minutes ago.
 
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