Found Deceased CO - Dylan Nicholas Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *father arrested* #4

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  1. Cindizzi

    Cindizzi Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think he said Elaine said that. It was his friend Kristen. Then Bogan said we already know they both were tired from staying up late so they probably both feel asleep is why the text convo ended. How ridiculous.
     


  2. asyousay

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    Yep and why doesn’t Mark push Dylan to get up that morning like a responsible dad or even just tell Dylan to text Ryan and say meet up later as he can’t be bothered to get up.


    Mark can’t explain any of this away.
     
  3. RANCH

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    Prosecution witness's discussed animal scavenging for why the remains were scattered at the original remains site and the extreme unlikelihood that any animal would move the skull to where it was found. They never suggested that Mark dismembered Dylan the night he killed him

    I got the feeling that they believe Mark went back to the spot where he dumped Dylan's body, moved the skull to a place harder for it to be found and maybe grabbed the backpack with all of Dylan's belonging's to dump somewhere else. JMO
     
  4. Chelly

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    Oh I think it's DA Champagne again.
     
  5. Cindizzi

    Cindizzi Well-Known Member

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    What was it Mr Johnson tried to object to? Something about Bogan showing a pic of the garage and saying the fishing pole was hanging there the whole time and they hadn’t looked hard enough? Guessing this might be first topic on Rebuttal. JMO
     
  6. LotusPawprint

    LotusPawprint Moderately-known member

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    He's been talking for 30 seconds and
    I already feel better.
     
  7. katydid23

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    look in jury instructions--you won't find that instruction in there--defense counsel claims if we can't tell you exactly blow by blow what happened, that means it is not guilty---not true

    The victim is DEAD---we know that--

    the ATM card--it was deactivated when Dylan tried to guess the pin--the card may have been deactivated, but the defendant still took out the remains 2000 dollars

    The search was a painstaking effort that went on for years

    charges were filed in 2017--this was no rush to judgment

    the man who did everything to cover his tracks now wants to benefit from the fact he left him in the forest to be scavenged by animals---he now wants to benefit from that
     
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    You bet that was a bad move! He just added fuel for guilt.
     
  9. RANCH

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    The Casey Anthony jury fell for that bogus requirement that the prosecution has to tell us exactly how the victim died.

    Hopefully that doesn't happen in this case. JMO
     
  10. LotusPawprint

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    This really resonates. So many of us have felt this over the years. MR, you DO NOT get to benefit from leaving your boy's body in the elements among wild animals. Infuriating and just so sad.
     
  11. katydid23

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    the real question is what was Dylan doing up there? That is the opposite direction of his waiting friends.
     
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  12. Ghostwheel

    Ghostwheel Pyrrhonist

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    It was asked what the terrain was like from MR home to the remains site
    Looks like this. That huge vertical space just below Site 1 is part of Vallecito Crags. (second URL) Even the "easier" route from MRs home is not for the faint of heart.
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    https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...al_District/La_Plata/Redwine/Exhibits/519.jpg
    Rock Climbing in Vallecito Crags, Durango

    The "Park Here" arrow on this graphic is really close to where site 1 appears to be. This also shows the two gates (the "dumbells")
    -Courtesy of National Geographic Maps- <br> <br> http://www.natgeomaps.com/ti_140_zoomify.html?zoomifyImagePath=assets/files/zoomify/ti00000140/ti00000140_3_img&zoomifyNavigatorVisible=false
     
  13. RANCH

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    He wasn't going fishing and he wasn't going to his friends.

    That means someone took him there. The evidence tells us it was Mark. JMO
     
  14. katydid23

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    they talked about the scavengers--but they didnt cause the cuts from a sharp instrument or the blunt force trauma
     
  15. Cindizzi

    Cindizzi Well-Known Member

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    Mr. Dougherty: The Defense wants you to believe Mother Nature did this.
    If Mother Nature was here today, she would say look at that guy (pointing to Defendant).
     
  16. Warwick7

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    Agreed!
     
  17. asyousay

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    I am amazed more hasn’t been asked about the Debit card.


    Dylan had it so the fact Mark ended up with that card means he killed Dylan. There is no other explanation on how he ended up with that card. It means that when he was tidying up the crime scene he took that card out of Dylan’s wallet.
     
  18. katydid23

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    it looks like his sock was dumped there--no signs of animals touching it
     
  19. RANCH

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    I bet Dylan had taken his shoes and socks off at Mark's home. After Mark killed him he took Dylan's body and backpack. If the backpack was full there wouldn't be room for the shoes and socks so Mark dumped those separately. JMO
     
  20. katydid23

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    wow----

    mark threw Dylans pictures in the trash---but he kept this picture of the protest at his home, begging him to tell what he knew about where Dylan was

    He couldn't wait to show you this picture of him being hassled but he threw away pictures of his missing son in the trash
     
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