GUILTY CO - Dylan Nicholas Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *father arrested* #5

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  1. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    I am not sure that was the victim's family. It was a loud groan---sounded more like someone upset---not a happy sigh of relief.

    I am thinking it was someone from Mark's side of the court room?
     
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  2. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    Sweet Dylan, born on earth to bloom in heaven. Run free...
     
  3. Cardinal47

    Cardinal47 Well-Known Member

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    Did Mark have family or supporters in the courtroom?

    I was kind of surprised so few attended the trial any day.
     
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  4. Cindizzi

    Cindizzi Well-Known Member

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    There’s much more in this article. I just snipped a few quotes of EH. Heartbreaking photo of DR’s buddy, Ryan.
    True testament to the person Dylan was even at the young age of 13 that he will forever impact everyone who knew him. Rest In Peace Dylan. Justice has Come Down.


    https://www.durangoherald.com/articles/dylans-mother-says-she-never-gave-up-fighting-for-justice/


    Elaine Hall said Friday’s guilty verdict is the end of one chapter and the beginning of another – but it doesn’t bring closure.

    “We're never going to have closure because you can't have closure when a piece of your life and your heart is missing," Hall said Friday outside the La Plata County Courthouse.
    Family friends described Hall as a pillar of strength throughout the yearslong effort to seek justice. But Hall shrugged it off, saying she did what came naturally.

    “You really have no choice when your child goes missing and is subsequently found murdered,” Hall said. “I mean, what are you supposed to do? You can't just roll over in your bed and ignore the world. You have to fight, and that's what we did."
    Hall spent nearly five weeks in the courtroom with her ex-husband, but she said she didn’t notice anything remarkable about Redwine’s demeanor or his reaction to Friday’s verdict.

    And she doesn’t try to understand what he might be thinking.

    "You can't get in the mind of someone crazy like that,” she said. “There’s no logic. There’s nothing. He looked just like he did when Dylan went missing. Mark has always been worried about one person, and that’s Mark, and that will never change."

    Hall said it was a complicated case with a mountain of evidence. Even she learned new details about the investigation sitting through the five-week trial, she said.
     
  5. Ghostwheel

    Ghostwheel Pyrrhonist

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    It's been long past due. Never give up, never surrender.
     
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  6. Funky funky

    Funky funky Well-Known Member

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    I’ve followed this from the beginning and I’m elated that Dylan has finally got justice. My thoughts are with Dylan’s family.
    May Dylan rest in peace.
    Does anyone think his murder was pretty meditated? I remember reading at the beginning that Mark was angry about child support?
     
  7. Cindizzi

    Cindizzi Well-Known Member

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    I’ve listened to it several times and I think it was DR family and supporters giving a collective “ yes., thank god., hallelujah “ although you don’t hear those words. I don’t think the Defendant had anyone there .. or not enough people to make that amount of noise. JMO

    First time I heard the Judge say Be quiet please I thought it was kinda harsh, but remember this was the verdict on count one and he still had count two to read. I’m sure he was anticipating some emotional outbursts. I was, too. Dylan’s warriors showed restraint and class as usual. IMO
     
  8. Seenit

    Seenit Well-Known Member

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    In some way...can we create a bubble of light and love around this family.
    You have deserved some semblance of peace from day one.
    Please know that there are hundreds of us behind you......you are never alone.
     
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  9. Cindizzi

    Cindizzi Well-Known Member

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    If by premeditated you mean did he pre-plan it or even think about it, I don’t know. I won’t even hazard a guess to how his mind works. He was hell bent and obsessed with hurting EH and making her pay for whatever slights he thought she caused him. He could no longer control her or his other son CR. Now Dylan had lost all respect for him and didn’t want anything to do with him. They didn’t charge him with First Degree Murder which is premeditated with intent to kill because IMO it would be harder to prove.

    But they did charge him and CONVICT him of 2nd degree murder because he knowingly caused DR death. He KNEW that his physical attack would result in death.

    To me, the fact that he let his child lay out there and never to this day owned up to it is worse than pre-planning it.
    JMO
     
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  10. scandinavian girl

    scandinavian girl Well-Known Member

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    Dylan, it has been a privilege to get to know you and your amazing family. Justice has finally arrived so fly high, fly proud and most of all fly free.
     
  11. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    So nice to wake up to a GUILTY verdict!!! Yes!

    And thank you all who tagged me! I knew I'd be here first thing this morning!

    Justice for Dylan!!
    Dylan2.jpg
     
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  12. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Update!

    Friday, July 16th:
    *Trial continues (Day 18)-GUILTY! (@ 8:30am MT) - CO - Dylan Nicholas Redwine (13) (last seen alive Nov. 18, 2012 when he arrived at airport, reported missing on Nov. 19, 2012, Vallecito; found about 8 miles up Middle Mountain Road, a dirt road that cuts through the San Juan National Forest, about 100 yards from the road, directly off an ATV trail on June 27, 2013 & Nov. 1, 2015 his skull was found by hikers about 1.5 miles thru rough terrain from where his remains were found, by road 5 miles.) - *Mark Allen Redwine (50 @ time of crime/55/now 59), "father" indicted (7/20/17), arrested (7/21/17 in Bellingham, WA) & charged (7/21/17) with 2nd degree murder & child abuse resulting in death. Plead not guilty. $750K bond.
    Jury Trial began on 10/29/20 with jury selection & ended 11/5/20 after Judge Wilson declared mistrial on 11/9/20.
    Re-Trial began on 6/14/21 with jury selection & ended 6/21/21 selecting the final 16 & trial started with opening statements in the afternoon on 6/21/21 and ended with closing arguments on 7/15/21. 12 jurors & 4 alternates (11 men & 5 women). 1 juror was excused for having a fever (7/8/21). Now 10 men & 5 women on jury. 12 jurors & 3 alternates. 1 juror (#11) excused before closing arguments on 7/15/21
    12 jurors & 2 alternates. Now 9 men & 5 women on jury. Day 1 (7/15/21) of deliberations: 35 minutes. Day 2 (7/16/21) of deliberations: 5 hours & 30 minutes. Total deliberations time: 6 hours.

    Previous court hearings from 9/10/17 thru 6/11/21 & new jury selection (Day 1-6) 6/14/21 to 6/21/21 & trial (Day 1-17) 6/21/21 to 7/14/21 reference post #15 here:
    GUILTY - CO - Dylan Nicholas Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *father arrested* #5

    7/16/21 Friday, Day 18 of trial & Day 2 of Jury Deliberations: Deliberations started 8:30am MT. And ended at 2pm MT. Total deliberations for day 2: 5½ hours. 1:45pm - Questions from Jury: Two questions: they want transcript of Agent Grusing testimony & copy of agent Grusing FBI report. Objecting to transcript by the defense. Judge ruled no, they cannot have either.
    2pm - The jury has reached a verdict, It will be read at approximately 2:20pm. A juror told Wilson the jury came to the unanimous verdict before requesting the transcript.
    Verdict: 2nd degree murder: Guilty. 2 counts of Child abuse: Guilty. Did the abuse result in death? Yes.
    Sentencing 10/8/21, 9am. Prosecution expects full day for sentencing. Redwine will be held without bond until sentencing.
     
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  13. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Well-Known Member

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    Elain made it clear they were going to let their hair down tonight.
    So did I.....
    Why not celebrate?!!!
    I hope in true remarkableness that Elaine and others have the best hangover ever!!
    I know I will! Whoo hoo!
    It's been long time coming!!!
    Bam!
    ** (See what I have never shared... is I lived just south of Durango. One of my closest friends has a son, he was close friends of Dylan's. I too have been in Durango, I too had been in the ruggedness of Mark's home area. Searching is a selfless work...
    I am celebrating tonight and it means a great deal to me to do so!)
     
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  14. sapphire blue

    sapphire blue Well-Known Member

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    after 8 years, 7 months and 28 days

    JUSTICE IS FINALLY SERVED

    GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
     
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    skibaboo Mrs Map

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    I haven't been able to watch due to work but what great news to wake up to! I don't think any of us doubted a guilty verdict, it's taken too long to arrive but there it is, finally!! GUILTY!

    The tick has tocked MR! There's no escape from justice! You did it Dylan <3

    I'm so happy for Elaine and Corey, let your hair down, yeah!!
     
  16. Pally

    Pally Well-Known Member

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    It looks like he doesn't give a s**t!
     
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  17. asyousay

    asyousay Well-Known Member

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    I hope Mark doesn’t try and taunt them from Jail now and goes quietly.


    I know some killers like to reveal little details of their crime to continue the pain and suffering and to feel like they are still in control.
     
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  18. Emerald1328

    Emerald1328 Well-Known Member

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    I hope a juror (or multiple jurors) does an interview about this. It would be so interesting to get their opinion on the evidence, how deliberations went, if anyone was on the fence, etc. However, I’m most interested in why they asked their questions to the judge. I can’t remember where I read it (a couple of places) but they had already reached their verdict before asking the questions, so why ask them? This probably isn’t it, but I’d love for it to be because they wanted to give Mark a false sense of hope before delivering his final blow ;)
     
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  19. Cindizzi

    Cindizzi Well-Known Member

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    It appears that the Prosecution had a couple of jailhouse informants willing to testify at one time. Last November 2020, The Judge issued an Order that the Defense not be allowed to call them snitches . One of them initials JC was still on the witness list filed in May 2021.
    MR’s been locked up for 4 years. I wonder what those guys could have testified to.

    https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...upplemental Order Upon Defense Motion 174.pdf
     
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  20. SDFinColo

    SDFinColo Well-Known Member

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    Tiptoeing into Dylan's thread to say YIPPEE!! I was formerly DylansMom34 (my son Dylan was 11 when Dylan Redwine went missing in 2012, and is now 20)! My first post on Dylan's thread was on November 20, 2012 and I was a regular contributor for quite awhile. For various reasons, I stopped posting on WS but I suppose it's all water under the bridge at this point and all that matters is long-awaited justice for Dylan. So much has happened in all these years and yesterday was such a relief. I am so relieved for Dylan's family, his loved ones, everyone who has searched, investigated, hoped, prayed, etc. The prosecutors did such a great job. I don't really have anything else to contribute but since I posted on the first day Dylan's thread opened on WS, I felt compelled to post on the day after Dylan's horrible killer was finally convicted!
     
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