CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #57

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  • #681
I don't know the law and am confused on why they would need to be talking about all this evidence like the van when it is known she did it. There is nothing to prove, unless showing all that is some way to prove she is not insane?
 
  • #682
I don't know the law and am confused on why they would need to be talking about all this evidence like the van when it is known she did it. There is nothing to prove, unless showing all that is some way to prove she is not insane?
The burden is on the state to do exactly that: prove beyond a reasonable doubt that LS was sane when she murdered Gannon, and that DID is not responsible for LS's actions but she alone is responsible.
 
  • #683
The burden is on the state to do exactly that: prove beyond a reasonable doubt that LS was sane when she murdered Gannon, and that DID is not responsible for LS's actions but she alone is responsible.
So far I believe they're doing an impeccable job.
 
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I recall AS testifying that GS was in counseling after the divorce and custody revision and I wonder if he was still in counseling at the time of his death.
I'm curious because after LS accused GS of coming at her with a knife (which I don't believe) -- I wonder if he confided in the therapist about being mistreated by LS.

Also, didn't LS tell detectives during the missing person report that GS took medication for ADHD? Or maybe she said vitamins. I'll read the tweets for clarification. MOO

ETA: Confirming during the 2nd 911 call (non-emergency), LS responds to the medical inquiry that GS takes vitamins every day to help with his ADHD but no prescription drugs.
 
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  • #686
I don't know the law and am confused on why they would need to be talking about all this evidence like the van when it is known she did it. There is nothing to prove, unless showing all that is some way to prove she is not insane?

The state has to prove its case regardless. These facts are important to have on the record to demonstrate her guilt. It is an added bonus that each of her steps and her conversations show that she was in control of her actions at all times. We (and she) knows she did these actions. To prove she was sane the state has to make sure they connect each and every dot in her actions and decision-making. From what I have seen they are doing a great job so far. The harder testimony is going to be about her sanity, which we will be turning to in short order. Notice each person who testified has been asked about her decision making, use of another name, and connection to reality-- laying the groundwork.
 
  • #687
I feel so like a deserter. I try to read and understand. I never will I can’t control my hatred for her; my despair, my grief for Gannon. The only thing stronger is my love for him. I can only allow tiny bits of this evil ****** into my brain. I’ve backspaced so many times I’m afraid I’m going to lose my privileges. Again. I’m sorry Gannon that I’m not stronger.
You’re relatable. I do the same. xx
 
  • #688
Little tip for condensed watching, I find a youtube version and start it after it has been live for a while and set the play time for x2 or 1.5 speed. I mainly listen to it and can change the speed if I the person is hard to understand or I want to see the evidence. Then I skip over the breaks. Very sad for her brother. I hope he and his mom and aunt who obviously dropped everything to come search for Gannon get the support they need.
 
  • #689
Dakota Lowery, Letecia Stauch's half brother, testified Tuesday that he saw the suitcase Gannon Stauch's body was discovered in while helping her move just days after Letecia Stauch reported her 11-year-old stepson missing.

“Why Ticia?” Lowery yelled at Stauch through tears.


Tolini spent the majority of his cross-examination asking Lowery about how his father — Stauch's stepfather — was abusive to him and his mother before he died in 2004.

During opening statements last week, defense attorney Will Cook said childhood trauma suffered at the hands of the men who dated and married her mother was part of the reason Stauch suffers from dissociative identity disorder. Cook also claimed that Stauch’s disorder caused her “psychotic crack" and why defense expert Dr. Dorothy Lewis found her to be insane.

Lowery said his father used to beat his mother, and that once as a child his father forced Lowery to drink so much alcohol that he passed out.

While Lowery was telling the alcohol story, Stauch nodded her head in agreement.
 
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I don't know the law and am confused on why they would need to be talking about all this evidence like the van when it is known she did it. There is nothing to prove, unless showing all that is some way to prove she is not insane?
It all comes down to whether she was sane or insane at the time of the crime.
 
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I recall AS testifying that GS was in counseling after the divorce and custody revision and I wonder if he was still in counseling at the time of his death.
I'm curious because after LS accused GS of coming at her with a knife (which I don't believe) -- I wonder if he confided in the therapist about being mistreated by LS.

Also, didn't LS tell detectives during the missing person report that GS took medication for ADHD? Or maybe she said vitamins. I'll read the tweets for clarification. MOO

ETA: Confirming during the 2nd 911 call (non-emergency), LS responds to the medical inquiry that GS takes vitamins every day to help with his ADHD but no prescription drugs.
I thought she said he took this :

 
  • #692
I recall AS testifying that GS was in counseling after the divorce and custody revision and I wonder if he was still in counseling at the time of his death.
I'm curious because after LS accused GS of coming at her with a knife (which I don't believe) -- I wonder if he confided in the therapist about being mistreated by LS.

Also, didn't LS tell detectives during the missing person report that GS took medication for ADHD? Or maybe she said vitamins. I'll read the tweets for clarification. MOO

ETA: Confirming during the 2nd 911 call (non-emergency), LS responds to the medical inquiry that GS takes vitamins every day to help with his ADHD but no prescription drugs.
I think the knife story about the knife is all in her head made up from her past when she was giving her little brother a knife. she is ugly on the inside that one jmoo
 
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Last witness of the day was a forensic nurse examiner with UC health who met with Stauch on Jan. 29, 2020. The nurse testified that Stauch told her that she had been sexually assaulted the night Gannon was kidnapped.

The nurse testified that Stauch initially agreed to a "SANE" exam, but left the hospital before the nurse could complete it. The portion of the exam that the nurse did complete she stated there was no evidence to back the claims Stauch had made to her about being assaulted.

That's a wrap for today, trial will resume tomorrow morning.
 
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I was a bit premature with this tweet. Allen just said that first witness tomorrow morning should be former EPCSO detective Jessica Bethel, who was the lead detective on this case at the time. Allen also said we are ahead of schedule currently.
 
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I recall AS testifying that GS was in counseling after the divorce and custody revision and I wonder if he was still in counseling at the time of his death.
I'm curious because after LS accused GS of coming at her with a knife (which I don't believe) -- I wonder if he confided in the therapist about being mistreated by LS.

Also, didn't LS tell detectives during the missing person report that GS took medication for ADHD? Or maybe she said vitamins. I'll read the tweets for clarification. MOO

ETA: Confirming during the 2nd 911 call (non-emergency), LS responds to the medical inquiry that GS takes vitamins every day to help with his ADHD but no prescription drugs.

Appending to my own message to add although I didn't hear medication mentioned during the 911 call, I think I could have heard the Rx Vyvanse as "vitamins."
 
  • #698
I recall AS testifying that GS was in counseling after the divorce and custody revision and I wonder if he was still in counseling at the time of his death.
I'm curious because after LS accused GS of coming at her with a knife (which I don't believe) -- I wonder if he confided in the therapist about being mistreated by LS.

Also, didn't LS tell detectives during the missing person report that GS took medication for ADHD? Or maybe she said vitamins. I'll read the tweets for clarification. MOO

ETA: Confirming during the 2nd 911 call (non-emergency), LS responds to the medical inquiry that GS takes vitamins every day to help with his ADHD but no prescription drugs.

I think she said Vyvanse in the bodycam footage which is a prescription ADHD medication. I have always thought from the moment we learned that Gannon had ADHD that LS was probably abusing his medication if he was prescribed Adderall or Vyvanse. Her actions, manner and way of speaking are kind of a dead giveaway in my mind because I know someone addicted to Adderall who uses the same kind of language and mannerisms as LS when she is speaking.
 
  • #699
The burden is on the state to do exactly that: prove beyond a reasonable doubt that LS was sane when she murdered Gannon, and that DID is not responsible for LS's actions but she alone is responsible.
Oh yeah I forgot the part that the state has to prove her sanity! Ok so they then have to do it all! Thanks!
 
  • #700
I think she said Vyvanse in the bodycam footage which is a prescription ADHD medication. I have always thought from the moment we learned that Gannon had ADHD that LS was probably abusing his medication if he was prescribed Adderall or Vyvanse. Her actions, manner and way of speaking are kind of a dead giveaway in my mind because I know someone addicted to Adderall who uses the same kind of language and mannerisms as LS when she is speaking.
Thank you @Bbgiraffe. I heard about the ADHD diagnosis for GS for the first time from LS during today's (Trial day 6) 911 call (non-emergency). I'll try to go back to the bodycam footage and listen for the Rx.

ETA: found it!

Bodycam Audio: Letecia Stauch on Stepson's Disappearance
 
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