CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #57

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OK, so I know it's not a laughing matter, but this 'liatribe' is so much more vomitous inducing than either Casey Anthony's Disney job trip, or Amber Heard's SA story. Just sayin'
I don’t know. Ambers was pretty far out there and unbelievable. Casey’s was also, at the time. Lori Daybell’s is also. Just how many of these crazy women are there in this world?
 
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How she loved to talk about the carpet and getting the carpet fixed. Hardly concerned though about Gannon's burns, dragging him to Petco for dog coats or whatever. She just confessed to being raped, but she's dragging the carpet story out some more.

Okay, now Edguardo is maybe 5'6", so he lost 2". He had a thing on his head, but jet black hair. His face shaped like hers but maybe more rounded. Craters like little holes like skin from acne, scars, not bad though, it could've been like wrinkles. Facial hair, yes, a mustache, just a mustache.

Wait... why am I typing a description of an imaginary man?
It makes me wonder if this description matches the later mugshot pic of Quincy Brown that she showed/sent Al. I don't know why I care but one does wonder where all this comes from.
 
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Listening to the injuries she inflicted on Gannon was awful. He had defensive wounds, hydrocodone in his system, fractured skull, and stabbing through his blanket. And, there she is trying to get fake lie detector tests and pretending she is her daughter to get stuff back. Always about her... that is not insanity, it is selfishness beyond belief.

It is hard to believe that she still wants to go through with this trial. Her lawyers are unable to ask any question that challenges the evidence against her. It is only to inflict pain on Gannon's family?

Not seen any evidence that she was "insane" or incapable of making decisions....not a second personality in sight.
It's definitely a case where many people would exclaim that this proves the devil exists, but what they don't see or hear about are the events of the past several years prior that ended with the abuse and death of Gannon.
Most prosecution does not care about the prospect of prior events that could of caused this to happen, and maybe her lawyers are going to try and make those prior incidents into the record. Unless she is a sociopath, woman can fake emotions far better than men.
Maybe...

It's something else..
There's precedent to claim it was another entity that caused it to happen
IE: Connecticut's Superior Court in Danbury, October 28, 1981.
trial of Arne Cheyenne Johnson, also known as the "Devil Made Me Do It" case, is the first known court case in the United States in which the defense sought to prove innocence based upon the claim of demonic possession and denial of personal responsibility for the crime
 
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She said she asked if he had the carpet for the home, and he said yes. She said she then gave him the code to the garage and told him the area of where the carpet needed to be fixed downstairs in the home.

Letecia said she had left $50 on the counter and told “the carpet guy” to take that for the job he was doing to fix the carpet.
 
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Cracking up she hopes she don’t have mental health issues after this, did I hear that right ? She’s a piece of work !
 
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OK, so I know it's not a laughing matter, but this 'liatribe' is so much more vomitous inducing than either Casey Anthony's Disney job trip, or Amber Heard's SA story. Just sayin'
IMO, she's got a lot in common with both of those ladies, however... imagine their internal monologues:

"Just keep talking... never be at a loss for words... just throw so much BS and word salad at your audience that their heads will be spinning... they'll never figure it out!!"
 
  • #1,107
Not this liar but victims of violent sexual crimes don't always remember details like clothes. They often remember things like the smell on their breath, the smell of their hair, and small details from when the person was so close to them--- their fingernails or their skin tone, smallish details. Those are the types of things that haunt survivors of sexual assault recall and can't get rid of.

She is such an awful, foul person.

Don't think she recognizes that her story of giving someone her code means that (if this was true) her daughter and her step-daughter could have been a victim of someone if she had allowed into their house......just plain disgusting.
 
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Letecia was then asked to go into further details about what happened when she got home. Letecia said, “I’m one of those people that tries to not think mental health is always an issue… I’m not going to let that be a stigma that I’m going to have mental health problems”
 
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Reality check: anyone get the sense that T was being held against her will in the comfy couch room?

She seems quite comfortable carrying on. And on and on and on and on....
 
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Letecia began crying with her head in her hands, then said a few times, “I don’t want to dream anymore.” She said she’s trying to block it out, and doesn’t want to be specific. The interview then continues.
 
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Only now does she start to describe him physically. And only because she's prompted.

She's describing him, sounds eager again. Describes his shirts, the arrangement of them, and says, 'it's a Colorado thing'. and I don't know if she giggled after or if it was the detective going 'mm hmm'.

Had cash on the counter. Wasn't especially for him, was originally for HH. Came from gambling? All in tens. IDEK.

Back to when she came home. LS is shifting the focus away from sequence of events to LS saying she won't let her mental health get on top of her or something? Shifting away from timeline to her status as a 'victim'. Detective says they need to know specifics to do their jobs.

Waterworks.

"I just don't want to dream about it any more."

"If you just ask I can say yes or no." LS says. Which is the opposite of how this kind of interview works.

Tears are gone again.

Talking about letting the dogs out being one of the things she does automatically.

Digging for information from detectives to craft her story. Gets told that's not how this kind of interview works.
 
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Head down crying, she's trying, but she keeps blocking it out. Letecia wants to asked questions, so she can say yes or no because she needs material for her lies. If it comes from someone else, it's probably believable, and she can use their ideas instead of coming up with her poor lies.

She was thinking of those people who give their door code for packages to be delivered inside the door. She was going to listen to music, even though she gave the code to someone, she heard something with the headphones on, and she can't say if she was standing here or there, but she heard a noise.

We are getting to the rape, I think, but there's no telling what Letecia will thrown into the story. So tiring. There's a guy maybe looking this way or that way, his intention, a gun. She did go in the cabinet because she takes Lorazepam... but there's an armoire too... Letecia just wanted to tell her about the medication she took. The man has a gun, but wait, let me throw in some silly detail.

 
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Not this liar but victims of violent sexual crimes don't always remember details like clothes. They often remember things like the smell on their breath, the smell of their hair, and small details from when the person was so close to them--- their fingernails or their skin tone, smallish details.

She is such an awful, foul person.

Don't think she recognizes that her story of giving someone her code means that (if this was true) her daughter and her step-daughter could have been a victim of someone if she had allowed into their house......just plain disgusting.
She doesn't think.

She doesn't think any further than getting herself out of whatever verbal jam she's currently in at that exact millisecond, IMO.
 
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Obviously, I won't be doing the whole interview, but this is a transcription of LS's version of Sunday night and the fire.

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LS - Gannon, you know, wasn't feeling too well and, you know, the dog.. you know how they like know someone's not feeling well? So, they were all in down there and it was gassy, like very bad... they're bad for that, very, very gassy or whatever and, you know, life goes on but.. so, Gannon had started a candle, again, normal; he's very like responsible in terms of like - if you give him something and say 'do this, this and this' like a list to prepare, he's fine. So, we let him, you know, do things like that, like, Albert lets him use the box cutter to cut the boxes down, you know, and like, teaches him things to be like a independent growing up, adolescent. So, I didn't see a problem with him, you know, light the candle, whatever, whatever, whatever. Weeelll, I don't remember the exact time, I'd have to like at when the fire thing went off. I was tired, Albert had left, so we had spent the whole night prior, Saturday, because he was going to train Oklahoma. So, we stayed up most of the night. You know, just, everybody was going to miss each other wouldn't see each other for a while, whatever, so I was kind of like, you know, tired. I had dozed off for a little bit and L asked me - could she stay up and to watch the rest of her I-Pad or whatever. Usually, I was always like 'no' straight like 'no you can't' whatever, but I did feel kind of bad because she... it was just her birthday and at the same time being her birthday we had a lot of stuff going on, so, we made it about her, but like, I was trying to give her a little bit extra because not everybody got to make it there and we went all out for Gannon's birthday, like we took him to a Rockies game, we took friends with him. I mean, you know like - popcorn, hot dogs but we didn't do that with her, but, in her defence we bought her a switch, so, it's kind of like different, but she didn't understand that. So, I let her stay up longer than she's supposed to as like, you know, I don't want to say bribery but, you know? So, they end up staying up a little bit later and so, she was still kinda... she's a very hard sleeper and she's hard to like, pick up, move, if she falls asleep, whatever. But see, I could tell she was just barely asleep when I went in there.

(next part doesn't seem like a continuation, so it may have been redacted for court)

So, it starts beeping like a beep, beep, beep, and I thought that someone was coming in the house. So, I look and don't see anyone at any doors or hear anything. So, I was like, it's (inaudible) so I hit it with (number code) which is our alarm code; but it didn't go off. And I was like 'what's wrong with the thing' so I walk through L's room because the alarm is in her room, and I walk back like, through, like, the top part of the house, and you've been in the house so you know the top part of the house.

LE - I haven't been in the house.

LS - Okay, so there's a upper level and then there's the below basement, so I was walking back and forth, whatever. I didn't see anything going on, then it started saying fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, like it kept saying fire.

LE - Oh wow.

LS - So... and I thought it was the.. you know how like there's like sensors for your fire alarm and then there's sensors for your, like, alarm alarm? So, I was going to everything, trying to like (inaudible) why it was going off because I was thinking kitchen fire; nothing's wrong, whatever. So, I was putting like towels over some of the sensors because I thought that was like, monitoring the fire thing, whatever. And then I realised it kept going and going. So, then I see smoke coming up from the downstairs. So, I ran downstairs and.. my idea of a big fire is anything that I see on fire, pretty much, when there's smoke, you know? that's just because I grew up in the country. So, you know, like I remember bonfires and things like that, you know? So, there was smoke coming up through the basement; so the basement has.. so like you walk down the basement, there's a sofa and stuff over here. It was coming up through the basement. So, I (big emphasis on I for some reason) ran back up the stairs, go grab L, luckily... my point telling you about her being not a (inaudible) sleeper, she woke right up. So, she woke back up and I almost like grabbed her and I was like, you know, 'get up, get up, get up'. I said... I gave her the keys, I said 'can you go...' I don't remember the exact order, but I said something along the lines of 'can you go take the dogs to daddy's truck and sit there and wait'.

LE - Right.

LS - So, I don't remember the order of how we all ran out the house, but I know at that point I did... she ran out and I can't remember if I ran up to make sure they got in the truck or if she ran out by herself, I don't remember that part, but I do know that they were... they had gotten in the truck. I came back inside, run back downstairs and that's when I was trying to get Gannon, because I couldn't get... I didn't know how to get everybody at once, so, (inaudible) to get the front people out, you know, and then go.. then I ran back downstairs to get Gannon and then the fire was on the floor over here, then on the sofa, so I'm pretending this is the sofa, and this is our floor, so, it was right here and right here and I saw the candle that was over here. So there was covers everywhere, because the kids always get em out and leave a lot of covers laying around, all the time. I mean there's like 10 quilts and LOL's and blankets and all this. So, they were all right here, so, I take a whole bunch of them and I go and like, like, like, basically smash down on the sofa and the fire to put it out. So I got a burn and I was like, you know, Gannon started running at that point, because it wakes him up. He's realising that the covers and everything's on fire, the carpets on fire and we all go outside. So, we get in Albert's truck and we drive and I drove off in panic, because I saw that I put the fire out, so, I knew that there was no, you know, like nothing wrong, like it wasn't gonna keep going. I drove off in panic because I was like 'oh my gosh, what do I do now?' Like (inaudible) burnt the carpet, you know, so we (inaudible). Gannon's upset, freaking out because he's scared he's gonna get in trouble and da da da da da, you know, so like the whole talk went on. So, we drove around the block a little bit and came right back. So, we came back in and like develop a plan for the next day to figure out... honestly, we were gonna like fix the carpet and try to like, not say anything. And the reason for that is because - like Albert freaks out about every little thing if the kids do something and I'm on like... me, and he'll be like 'you did this, you weren't being a good mom, you weren't doing this, you weren't doing that' and so, we both kinda were like, a little, like, worried about it and he gets very, like crazy; like if something goes wrong. So, that was the plan, go to sleep, rest, he was gonna stay out of school, we was gonna get the carpet fixed and then go from there.

So, L didn't want to sleep in her room, you know, everybody was still kind of, like, frazzled and I think L slept with me or on the sofa. I brought the dogs up and Gannon he went... he wanted to go to his room at that point because he was already sleeping on the (inaudible). So, that's where Sunday, like, pretty much, kind of like, stopped and everybody went to bed and yadda, yadda, yadda. I think I sent Albert messages, because he was (leaving or sleeping), he was on a different time zone and we didn't see him that night, so. And, I didn't feel that no one was in harm; I make sure I say that, because the fire was not... the fire was not going. Now, I know that Gannon had like black marks all on his shirt, like, like, smoke mark but he had on a long sleeve shirt and a short sleeve shirt, because he sometimes he has or whatever. They are short sleeves, or long sleeves... a short sleeve shirt with a long sleeve shirt. So, I didn't see him in any kind of like nothing other than the little burns that we had.

LE - Where did you see burns on Gannon?

LS - Alright, so, with Gannon I just saw that... okay, so like on the top, like, right here. Like, say the shirts are here, like right here (points to lower arm), there was a burn and the reason for that was, I think, whenever like he was trying to come up.. kind of like kind of like burned him a little bit. I'm not gonna make an assumption, I don't really know and as far as that I didn't see anything else, like I didn't know any, like other differences or anything like that. All I saw was that, I said 'are you ok?' he ran out the house he was fine running out of the house. Everything was normal yadda yadda yadda. Now, I'm gonna let you know in a little bit why he was bleeding. At that point, when you get to the Monday morning thing, I'll let you know about that.

LE - Just describe the flames for me - how tall are these flames? is it like smouldering on the carpets or kind of creeping across like a grass fire or is it, like, coming up, working it's way up the couch, like how was it...?

LS - Well, like I really don't know. I know that it was like here, centralised, on the floor, but like, I could see... I think the smoke might have like, kind of intimidated me more because I spent all night coughing. So, I think that, that kind of intimidated me so much because I couldn't... the visibility was starting to be a little bit, you know, like, as if I had walked into a small fire, and I was just afraid that it was gonna.. cause you know, like upholstery for the couch - that was my biggest concern was the upholstery for the couch. So, I would say, you know, it's like, maybe like, in this area, like right here, it wasn't like here.

LE: So, the flames were 2/3 feet high you think? how much light did you see coming off of it through the smoke?

LS - I don't know.

LE: Okay, and that's fine if you don't know.

LS - I'm not really.. I'm not like in a professional... and I was in the moment of freaking out, to give you an accurate answer.

LE - Sure.

LS - Because I don't want to tell you what's here; then it might have been here. I don't want to tell you this, this and this and... I don't know.

LE - This is all based off of your memory to the best of your recollection?

LS - Right.

LE - And that's all it is, okay?

LS - I do know that I saw covers coming up on fire.

LE - What covers were coming up on fire?

LS - Like, he had a cover on, because he was sleeping on the sofa.

LE - What was he covered with?

LS - What do you mean?

LE - What kind of blanket... you'd mentioned there was LOL's, there was quilts.. what blanket was he using?

LS - Errrr I'm not sure, there was a couple that were there. There was a black... there.. I put them all back in that bin that was sitting... did you see...?

LE - I've never been in the house.

LE - Okay, there was black it was like a little furry.. there was (inaudible) ones, I don't remember specifically which one he had, but I know there was blankets in the area because we always (inaudible) mermaid one around, but the whole operation of when I grabbed em and put it out, I grabbed em all and done it.

LE - Okay. All right. Were any of them, like, damaged whenever that happened?

LS - Oh yeah. I left them all there and when I showed them that night that, you know, like, they were damaged or whatever.

LE - Okay, well I haven't been in the house so...

LS - I'm sorry, I'm speaking to you like...

2nd LE: I didn't go into the house either, so I was like, trying to make sure that..

LS - Yeah.

LE - So, then Gannon decides that he doesn't want to go to school because of his tummy issues or because he's going to help you with the carpet - what is it?

LS - It was, kind of, a combination of both.
 
  • #1,115
Claims she got blood on her because he kept picking his blisters.

Blood on his arms, on his sheet (which she washed), blood on the wall where he slept. Cleaned it all up. Applied aloe to burns.

LS pacing the house because of anxiety over AS's potential violent reaction.

LS says she knows she's gotta fix two things, the carpet, and buy burn cream or something for Gannon's burns.

Pausing it now. Lunch, back at 1:20.

3 hrs 20 mins left, will be one more break later, judge encourages people to bring drinks and snacks for themselves when they come back.
BBM
Too bad they can't bring alcoholic drinks/beverages into court room, especially for the jury.
Good Lord.. I can't imagine sitting there all day listening to this babbling fool !!!

Poor Al, Gannon and Little L !!
 
  • #1,116
All the carpets in the world and the guy out front of your house just happened to have the same exact kind.
 
  • #1,117
OMG my African Grey has better stories than this freak show.
 
  • #1,118
But the carpet guy was supposed to bring the carpet and fix it.
Doesn't that include installation as well?

I can't believe I'm analyzing a bald-face-lie..
 
  • #1,119
Please pass the Lorazepam...

:rolleyes:
 
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But the carpet guy was supposed to bring the carpet and fix it.
Doesn't that include installation as well?

I can't believe I'm analyzing a bald-face-lie..
Me either.... :p
 
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