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The original post said “I knew a PF...” referencing someone in her life who was much like PF, not actually PF, though. MOO
no worries mustloveco, it's all good
Right. Do we know if the estrangement occurred before Nov. 22? (On Nov. 22nd? Shortly after Nov. 22 when the (expletive) hit the fan?)
There was a map done way back in the early threads IIRC, but with all the info overload lately, I couldn't even begin to point you in the right direction, but there was one.
Yeah. This is inexplicable on his part.
Thank you! This is very helpful!Detailed Timeline of November 22, 2018
1 – 4 a.m.: Investigators found that there were at least seven contacts made between Frazee and Berreth’s cell phones between these hours, including a four-minute phone call that happened around 1:42 a.m.
1:17 a.m. KB calls PF he doesn't answer (missed call)
1:18 a.m. KB calls PF a second time and he doesn't answer (missed call)
1:20 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 16 second conversation
1:42 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 4 minute and 32 second conversation.
1:50 a.m KB buys PF Tums Antacid at Walmart (based on a receipt found in her truck)
3:32 a.m. KB calls PF and he doesn't answer (missed call)
3:34 a.m. PF calls KB and they hold a 13 second conversation.
3:37 a.m. PF text to KB: I'll come down after I do chores and (Baby K) can go with me to Walmart and the bank so you can get a nap. Then we can figure out our plans
3:53 a.m. KB text to PF: Ok. We're home
3:53 a.m. PF text to KB: Ok thanks
Approx. 9:00 a.m. KB speaks to her mom on the phone. KB tells CB about checking on cattle with PF the night before and getting him medicine and that she got home around 4 am. KB also says that she and PF and baby are planning to go out for Thanksgiving Dinner but has to hang up the phone quickly to change baby K's diaper.
9:15 a.m. KB text to PF: Want to go out to eat?
Approx. 9:15 a.m. CB calls KB back and they talk briefly about Christmas gift lists and other similar topics.
9:37 a.m. KB text to PF: Call us when you wake up
9:40 a.m. PF calls KB and they have a 3 minute and 28 second conversation.
12:02 p.m. KB is seen pulling into the Safeway parking lot in her red Chevy Silverado Truck and removing the car seat carrier and Baby K from the passenger's side.
12:05 p.m KB is seen on video entering Safeway with her daughter in a baby carrier/car seat.
12:22-12:24 p.m. KB is seen on video checking out her purchases at Safeway (flowers and dip ingredients). She needed assistance to get a poinsettia plant from floral and therefore had 2 receipts. The first receipt had food items and the second reciept had only the floral purchase.
12:27 p.m. KB and her daughter are captured on a surveillance camera at the Safeway in Woodland Park leaving the store. She is seen on video loading the groceries and baby K into her red truck and driving out the west end of the parking lot.
Sometime Between 12:30 and 1:00 PM KB's neighbor was leaving her home to go to her family Thanksgiving and saw 3 vehicles (2 red trucks and KB's car) parked at KB's house. One red truck was parked perpendicular to the other two vehicles, blocking them in. Sam Kraemer on Twitter
12:31 p.m PF calls KB and they have a 35 second conversation*
12:33 p.m. PF calls KB again and the call lasts 8 seconds*
*Cell Phone data show both PF and KB were in the vicinity of KB's home during the 2 above calls.
12:36 p.m. PF's red Toyota Tacoma was seen on video from William's Log Furniture turn onto North Fairview Street from Hwy 24 and continue Northbound on Fairview. The truck had a white box object in the bed.
12:37 p.m KB's truck is observed on video taken from William's Log Furniture driving Westbound on Hwy 24 and turning onto North Fairview St.
12:41 p.m. KB text to PF: I bought some sweet potatoes in case you wanted sweet potato casserole but I forgot to get pecans so if you want some you should get some
12:44 p.m. PF's red Toyota with the white box in the bed item is seen on William's Log Furniture video driving Southbound on North Fairview towards the HWY 24 intersection.
12:44-12:50 p.m PF is seen on video at the Woodland Park ENT Bank ATM. He made 4 transactions during this visit. 3 deposits and one withdrawal. Both the baby and baby carrier are visible in the ATM video with PF at 12:47 p.m.
12:54 – 1:17 p.m.: Frazee was captured on surveillance video at the Walmart in Woodland Park carrying a baby carrier with a blanket similar to the one seen in the Safeway footage. Investigators wrote in the affidavit that they believe their 1-year-old daughter was in the carrier at the time.
1:24 p.m. A person matching Frazee’s description is captured entering the front door of Berreth’s apartment on a neighbor’s surveillance camera – which investigators said contradicted what Frazee had told them about a timeline on that day.
1:25 p.m. PF's red Toyota is seen on William's Log Furniture video turning onto North Fairview from HWY 24 and traveling Northbound. The truck appears to have some kind of crate in the bed.
3:13 p.m. PF's bank account shows a transaction at Walmart.
3:36 p.m.: That same neighbor’s surveillance camera again captures images of a person that matches Frazee’s description at Berreth’s home. Frazee called his mother, Sheila, and Kenney at this time, according to his phone records. This is the beginning of when Frazee allegedly started carrying out his “scheme,” as the affidavit calls it, of using his and Berreth’s phones to try and “distract law enforcement, distort the actual date of [Berreth’s] appearance, and separate himself as a suspect in a murder investigation.”
Kenney told investigators that Frazee called her and told her to come to Colorado because she “had a mess to clean up.” She told investigators that she understood that meant that Berreth had been killed.
4:24 p.m. PF makes a call to a number ending in 6021 and his cell phone connects to the tower near KB's home**
4:37 p.m. PF's calls a number ending in 6679. PF cell again connects to the Woodland Park tower near KB's home but in the east facing sector.**
4:43 p.m. PF receives a call on his phone from the number ending in 6679. PF's phone connects to a tower near Divide, CO, and a sector facing west along route 24. The call last 141 seconds.**
4:50 p.m. PF calls the 6679 number back and talks for 251 seconds.**
**KB's phone was also tracked and from approx 3:30-4:50 KB's phone moves along the same route as PF's phone. Both phones appear to move along Route 24 in the direction from KB's home toward PF's home. Due to the time delay of when phone warrants were issued only "failed attempt" calls were recorded. These are probably calls that failed to connect or dropped due to poor reception.
9:54, 10:03, 10:15 & 10:48 PM: Both Frazee’s and Berreth’s cell phones were connected with cell towers near Cripple Creek, traveling in the same direction and similar distances from the towers. “This would indicate the phones were likely traveling together,” Frazee’s affidavit says. The area where the phones connected is in the direction of Robert Slagle's Guffey, CO residence.
11:11 p.m. PF's phone is recorded 3 miles south of a Florissant cell tower 2 miles south of his residence. There is nothing to indicate PF and KB's phones ever separated during this 2.5 hour window.
The affidavit says the two cell phones stayed together for the entirety of Nov. 22-24
Sources:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Tippy's existing timeline of events
Unfortunately, they apparently don’t have video of KK showing up.
Based on this timeline (and by the way thank you thank you thank you for taking the time to do this!) I'm beginning to wonder if KB was killed when he returned to the home at 3:36pm. I'm trying to piece it together, but it makes more sense for him to take the baby, run a few errands while KB gets ready, and then return and tell her he's going home to have dinner with family and take littleK for quick visit and then they'll return and go out and have dinner either somewhere else or a quiet family dinner. The whole "figure out the candle smell" didn't make sense to me. I'm seeing a mom who is trying to get a casserole together, put on makeup and get ready to go out and I can't imagine my fiance saying "here put a sweater on your head and guess the candle smell". I'd swat him away and be furiously trying to get ready to go, not sitting on a couch playing some stupid game, there's no time. But if he came back after dinner with his family, they're relaxing on the couch and he gets silly with her about "smell the candle" then I can see that.Update #1:
Detailed Timeline of November 22, 2018
1 – 4 a.m.: Investigators found that there were at least seven contacts made between Frazee and Berreth’s cell phones between these hours, including a four-minute phone call that happened around 1:42 a.m.
1:17 a.m. KB calls PF he doesn't answer (missed call)
1:18 a.m. KB calls PF a second time and he doesn't answer (missed call)
1:20 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 16 second conversation
1:42 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 4 minute and 32 second conversation.
1:50 a.m KB buys PF Tums Antacid at Walmart (based on a receipt found in her truck)
3:32 a.m. KB calls PF and he doesn't answer (missed call)
3:34 a.m. PF calls KB and they hold a 13 second conversation.
3:37 a.m. PF text to KB: I'll come down after I do chores and (Baby K) can go with me to Walmart and the bank so you can get a nap. Then we can figure out our plans
3:53 a.m. KB text to PF: Ok. We're home
3:53 a.m. PF text to KB: Ok thanks
Approx. 9:00 a.m. KB speaks to her mom on the phone. KB tells CB about checking on cattle with PF the night before and getting him medicine and that she got home around 4 am. KB also says that she and PF and baby are planning to go out for Thanksgiving Dinner but has to hang up the phone quickly to change baby K's diaper.
9:15 a.m. KB text to PF: Want to go out to eat?
Approx. 9:15 a.m. CB calls KB back and they talk briefly about Christmas gift lists and other similar topics.
9:37 a.m. KB text to PF: Call us when you wake up
9:40 a.m. PF calls KB and they have a 3 minute and 28 second conversation.
12:02 p.m. KB is seen pulling into the Safeway parking lot in her red Chevy Silverado Truck and removing the car seat carrier and Baby K from the passenger's side.
12:05 p.m KB is seen on video entering Safeway with her daughter in a baby carrier/car seat.
12:22-12:24 p.m. KB is seen on video checking out her purchases at Safeway (flowers and dip ingredients). She needed assistance to get a poinsettia plant from floral and therefore had 2 receipts. The first receipt had food items and the second receipt had only the floral purchase.
12:27 p.m. KB and her daughter are captured on a surveillance camera at the Safeway in Woodland Park leaving the store. She is seen on video loading the groceries and baby K into her red truck and driving out the west end of the parking lot.
Sometime Between 12:30 and 1:00 PM KB's neighbor was leaving her home to go to her family Thanksgiving and saw 3 vehicles (2 red trucks and KB's car) parked at KB's house. One red truck was parked perpendicular to the other two vehicles, blocking them in. Sam Kraemer on Twitter
12:31 p.m PF calls KB and they have a 35 second conversation*
12:33 p.m. PF calls KB again and the call lasts 8 seconds*
*Cell Phone data show both PF and KB were in the vicinity of KB's home during the 2 above calls.
12:36 p.m. PF's red Toyota Tacoma was seen on video from William's Log Furniture turn onto North Fairview Street from Hwy 24 and continue Northbound on Fairview. The truck had a white box object in the bed.
12:37 p.m KB's truck is observed on video taken from William's Log Furniture driving Westbound on Hwy 24 and turning onto North Fairview St.
12:41 p.m. KB text to PF: I bought some sweet potatoes in case you wanted sweet potato casserole but I forgot to get pecans so if you want some you should get some
12:44 p.m. PF's red Toyota with the white box in the bed item is seen on William's Log Furniture video driving Southbound on North Fairview towards the HWY 24 intersection.
12:44-12:50 p.m PF is seen on video at the Woodland Park ENT Bank ATM. He made 4 transactions during this visit. 3 deposits and one withdrawal. Both the baby and baby carrier are visible in the ATM video with PF at 12:47 p.m.
12:54 – 1:17 p.m.: Frazee was captured on surveillance video at the Walmart in Woodland Park carrying a baby carrier with a blanket similar to the one seen in the Safeway footage. Investigators wrote in the affidavit that they believe their 1-year-old daughter was in the carrier at the time.
Approx. 1:24 p.m.*** A person matching Frazee’s description is captured entering the front door of Berreth’s apartment on a neighbor’s surveillance camera – which investigators said contradicted what Frazee had told them about a timeline on that day. (See Arrest Affadavit)
Approx 1:25 & 43 seconds p.m. (13:25:43)*** PF's red Toyota is seen on William's Log Furniture video turning onto North Fairview from HWY 24 and traveling Northbound. The truck appears to have some kind of crate in the bed.
*** All times are noted as approximate
Investigators believe PF murdered KB with a baseball bat in her condo sometime in the afternoon
3:13 p.m. PF's bank account shows a transaction at Walmart.
3:36 p.m.: That same neighbor’s surveillance camera again captures images of a person that matches Frazee’s description at Berreth’s home. Frazee called his mother, Sheila, and Kenney at this time, according to his phone records. This is the beginning of when Frazee allegedly started carrying out his “scheme,” as the affidavit calls it, of using his and Berreth’s phones to try and “distract law enforcement, distort the actual date of [Berreth’s] appearance, and separate himself as a suspect in a murder investigation.”
Kenney told investigators that Frazee called her and told her to come to Colorado because she “had a mess to clean up.” She told investigators that she understood that meant that Berreth had been killed.
4:24 p.m. PF makes a call to a number ending in 6021 and his cell phone connects to the tower near KB's home (CBI agent testified that this is when PF called his mother SF).
4:37 p.m. PF's calls a number ending in 6679. PF cell again connects to the Woodland Park tower near KB's home but in the east facing sector. (CBI testified this was an Idaho number belonging to Krystal Kenney Lee)**
4:43 p.m. PF receives a call on his phone from the number ending in 6679 (KKL's number). PF's phone connects to a tower near Divide, CO, and a sector facing west along route 24. The call last 141 seconds.**
4:50 p.m. PF calls KKL's 6679 number back and talks for 251 seconds.**
**KB's phone was also tracked and from approx 3:30-4:50 KB's phone moves along the same route as PF's phone. Both phones appear to move along Route 24 in the direction from KB's home toward PF's home. Due to the time delay of when phone warrants were issued only "failed attempt" calls were recorded. These are probably calls that failed to connect or dropped due to poor reception.
9:54, 10:03, 10:15 & 10:48 PM: Both Frazee’s and Berreth’s cell phones were connected with cell towers near Cripple Creek, traveling in the same direction and similar distances from the towers. “This would indicate the phones were likely traveling together,” Frazee’s affidavit says. The area where the phones connected is in the direction of Robert Slagle's Guffey, CO residence.
KK says that PF took KB's body in a black plastic tote to the Nash Ranch near Guffey, CO on Nov 22 (See Arrest Affidavit).
11:11 p.m. PF's phone is recorded 3 miles south of a Florissant cell tower 2 miles south of his residence. There is nothing to indicate PF and KB's phones ever separated during this 2.5 hour window.
The affidavit says the two cell phones stayed together for the entirety of Nov. 22-24
Sources:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/Application and Affidavit for Arrest Warrant.pdf
Tippy's existing timeline of events
