CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #15

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  1. Bill Carson

    Bill Carson Well-Known Member

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    That is very interesting. Very. The fight in the driveway had to have occured back in June, before SW left for NC.

    And at least one neighbor saw the fight, then the immediate makeup, and concluded that they were putting on a show. The perfect family show.

    Interesting.

    MOO
     


  2. Allabouttrial

    Allabouttrial Well-Known Member

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    "Smile you're on camera"
     
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    Ur728 Well-Known Member

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    It makes me sad to think that they both probably had a lot of red flag and warnings to end this marriage a long time ago but decided to stick it out.
     
  4. amysmom

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    Good Q's! I would hope AB has confirmation on his work info before declaring her timeline..Also, that she knows it's a fact a crew works at that site on a daily basis & their arrival time..If not, we're being misled, & the only thing she knows for sure is what time the sun came up.
     
  5. rashomon

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    In the arrest affidavit it says that SW's cell phone was found in the loft area between the bedrooms, between two cushions of a sofa.
    Quote from the arrest affidavit:
    https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/19th_Judicial_District/caseofinterest/2018CR2003/001/Warrantless Arrest Affidavit.pdf

    If Shannan was attacked before she could go upstairs, then it must have been CW who later placed her cell phone between the sofa cushions in the loft, probably to hide it there.

    Or:
    SW did make it upstairs, discovered that the children were dead, wanted to call the police, CW came after SW and attacked her, and her cell phone ended up between the sofa cushions during the deadly struggle ...
     
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  6. Bill Carson

    Bill Carson Well-Known Member

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    And decided to have another baby.

    Some posters have suggested that CW wanted the baby but SW was reluctant due to her health problems. I beg to differ. I think SW wanted another child, perhaps to try to salvage the marriage. I don't know why he would want a third child when he was so unhappy. And one source has suggested marital problems going back to February, IIRC.

    MOO
     
  7. Allabouttrial

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    Totally agree and sadly they probably stuck it out because of the girls.
     
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    I too believe this was premeditated and he disposed of the two young girls prior to Monday am. He sought out a location, prepped the barrels, and got a key for the gates. BTW, he also made sure to have the girls at that birthday party on Sunday, not to cause anymore concern of them not being seen before SW came home from her trip.
     
  9. Bill Carson

    Bill Carson Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. I'm going to take that as speculation on her part unless I see a source. For all we know, the tank location was where he was working. I've even considered the fact that he was out there from 6:15am (whenever he arrived from home) until he got the notification from his Ring camera that NU was knocking on his door. Then he panicked and started rushing home.
     
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    Personally, I don't think that ending a fight necessarily equates to "putting on a show." I've certainly been in situations where I've been arguing with a significant other in public and tried to tone it down to avoid attention. I could definitely see a couple arguing and then noticing a nosy neighbor staring at them and one of them saying "hey, let's chill out, people are staring." Going so far as giving a hug might be a bit of a stretch, but ending a fight that's drawing attention doesn't seem strange or alarming to me.
     
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  11. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    I am reporting this post to request a stickie at the beginning of each thread with the three CW Interviews:
    9 News:
    Denver 7:
    KDVR:
     
  12. Talisman

    Talisman Walk lightly in the spring;Mother Earth's pregnant

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    @RickshawFan
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    I'm just not sure what I'm missing in the video & pictures you referenced.
    Many posters liked and agreed with you. It leads me to think my brain may be wired wrong :)

    No, But, honestly what am I misreading?

    I see a young woman (in video you referenced) that seems at peace and content with her life.
    I don't see 'phony'. It doesn't make me feel 'creepy', nor do the family pictures.

    I know nothing about MLM. Only Amway two decades ago - a friend's husband was selling it. That's it, nada, except for that.

    I'm wondering if people, for some odd reason, feel a jealousy toward Shanann because her experience with MLM was positive? Not in any way saying you feel that way. Just truly cannot understand all the negativity about Shanann...? Several posters agree with you - What Am I Missing?

    Sometimes it feels as if the whole world is jaded :( Why can't a person post their beliefs, that they are content, and, YES, happy with life? Why are people all too eager to smear those people?

    I, for one, am so glad that the last few years of her life she smiled a lot.
    Glad that she enjoyed her much too short life & posted 'happy' moments.

    So, what the heck is wrong with me?
    Why am I not seeing what so many of you are seeing? What Am I Missing here? Serious question.

    Tia
     
  13. Ur728

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    For me it's the fact they hugged immediately. It would have been different if they had just taken the fight inside, that's a more "normal" reaction IMO.
     
  14. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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  15. CFlo

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    But why would SW have publicly stated that as fact via public posts on SM (that it was CW that had to talk her into trying for a 3rd)? CW had FB at that time, remember. And all of their friends, sure,y that would’ve come up or mentioned there too, no?
    That’s a pretty big statement for her to make if it wasn’t indeed fact.
    Not looking for a WS fight, just looking to understand what lead to your belief that it was SW and not CW initiating trying for a 3rd, when public statements show otherwise?
    Yes, I get it, SM public posts isn’t the end all be all for actual facts, but if one is posting publicly, then why wouldn’t that have been the case?
     
  16. Davia18

    Davia18 Verified Human

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    I agree. I see nothing fake. Just because she doesn't post her and CW fights doesn't make her fake.
    She was beautiful, positive and I have no doubt if she was allowed to live she would have continued on just as happy and positive with some heart ache getting through another divorce and 3 babies. I feel she would have made the best of it all JMO
     
  17. cottonweaver

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    Any chance you could post the link if it's still in your history Tiger? Or I can look it up, if you know what the clip was titled as?
     
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  18. amysmom

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  19. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    You're a rockstar, thank you!

    ETA: I've added both of the videos to the media thread in case we need to find them again. :)
     
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  20. CFlo

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    Gosh you are in my head on this! I go back and forth with what we know (little), to a realistic scenario, to basic logic, or hope, etc.
    IMO, if her phone was taken downstairs, I lean right now to he would’ve just thrown it in the kitchen trash like he did bed linens. Clearly not that smart, so hard to believe he’d think to stash it in the loft sofa.
     
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