Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #25

[maeleemae]

Oh so sorry to hear that. It just goes to show we don't always see the monster living among us.

Therein lies the mystery of this case. My girls and I, no one had a clue he had this Darkness in him. In all other ways he was wonderful. CW and SW both had admirable qualities so who killed those children? I think he did but I could be wrong.

 

[Johnny1181]

Yesterday WS noped out on a few of us and we double and triple posted. We meant those posts a whole lot apparently. Lol.

If you can still edit just go in and erase the content and type deleted.

Perfect thank you! I will try it... AWKWARD....

 

[Gardenista]

I think his friends and family had no need for hims to tell them anything because they had interacted with SW themselves. JMO

Disagree. I've seen tons of posts and some interviews about what a great, loving couple they were.

 

[Jennifer17]

Therein lies the mystery of this case. My girls and I, no one had a clue he had this Darkness in him. In all other ways he was wonderful. CW and SW both had admirable qualities so who killed those children? I think he did but I could be wrong.

Did your husband have any daughter of his own?

 

[BeanieBod]

There are many, many posts. I would have to go through and count.

It would be interesting to know the number of doctor visits. I wonder how many were referrals from a GP to a Specialist. As I said previously, she may have also wanted a second opinion before a surgery or before giving meds.
@Colorado303 , were you aware of any excessive doctor visits for the girls? Thanks.

 

[Backstroke10]

After being married to a narcissist for 3 years and dated/engaged to another one for 10 years, I don't think CW is a narcissist. I'm 99% sure he killed his babies but IMO he is not a narcissist. They typically love being the center of attention, can talk to anyone with ease, leave a trail of destruction behind them with regards to personal relationships, and would rarely admit involvement to any crime. Just my opinion from personal experiences with narcissistic men. I don't think it was planned. I think he snapped but can't wrap my brain around this one. This is my first time posting so I may not have done this correctly.

 

[PommyMommy]

Motion denied: Frederick killings: Christopher Watts' defense denied investigation request

John Walsh and Kathryn Herold, Watts’ defense attorneys, filed a motion Aug. 29 asking the court to have “the government” investigate extrajudicial statements that could prejudice a jury in the case.

Weld County District Judge Marcelo Kopcow wrote in the denial, filed on Sept. 10, that the defense failed to show any court violations or evidence of the defendant suffering from prejudice.

 

[Tigerlily75]

@Jennifer17

“Here is the bench that I am sitting on.

Many years ago, I discovered my child dead in her cot. There probably were many things that I could have been fearful that I had done which led to her death, but I did not think of any of those things.

I started CPR and then knew that I had to get outside help, so I ran into the neighbours house with her while I continued CPR and she rang the emergency number.

It never occurred to me to cover up her death because I might be blamed”.


Jennifer, I’m so sorry for your loss.

The same thing happened with my sister. She had an early morning appointment and went into the baby’s room to see if he was still asleep before she had her shower. She found him dead in his cot. She picked him up and, still in flimsy night attire, raced out into the street, screaming for help. Several neighbours ran out to see what the commotion was about. One, a nurse, took charge of the situation while another rang the emergency number. He was her only child.

Isn’t this something any normal parent would do? I just asked my husband, “If you saw one of our children dead in a baby monitor and saw me strangling the other child, what would you do?” He replied, “I’d run into the room, knock you off your feet and try and help the baby”.

I rest my case.

It’s what any reasonable person would do, and as an emergency dispatcher I see the whole gamut of people’s emotions in response to a crisis.

What CW did in response to his supposed scenario was neither normal nor reasonable.

 

[JudgeJudi]

CW wasn't lying throughout the interview. He admitted they had an emotional conversation and he wanted to separate. Please show me the proof he lied, please.

Please show me the proof that he had any conversation at all.

 

[Jennifer17]

I think the main thing for me regarding this whole allergy issue, is the fact that SW slammed her MIL on SM and not just once but several times and quite viciously. We've heard how kind, loving and caring she was, but for me it shows a very unpleasant side to her personality. By all means in the privacy of your own home have a rant and get it off your chest, but to publicly humiliate family on SM in my books is unacceptable.

But she did not publicly humiliate anyone. It was in a closed Lupus support group and highly unlikely that anyone knew her.

 

[Colorado303]

It would be interesting to know the number of doctor visits. I wonder how many were referrals from a GP to a Specialist. As I said previously, she may have also wanted a second opinion before a surgery or before giving meds.
@Colorado303 , were you aware of any excessive doctor visits for the girls? Thanks.

No, not aware of excessive dr’s visits.

 

[BeanieBod]

I think the main thing for me regarding this whole allergy issue, is the fact that SW slammed her MIL on SM and not just once but several times and quite viciously. We've heard how kind, loving and caring she was, but for me it shows a very unpleasant side to her personality. By all means in the privacy of your own home have a rant and get it off your chest, but to publicly humiliate family on SM in my books is unacceptable.

As I said in another post, TOO MUCH of everyone's personal lives are being shared with the world. It is inappropriate and unacceptable for ALL OF US but that is the level of SM today. Very sad.

 

[Jennifer17]

YASSSSSSS.

Thank you, it was long long time ago and time does heal, but I still remember her, mostly when I am setting the table for Christmas dinner.

 

[maeleemae]

Ditto, it blows my mind too.

Is it possible, that they were indeed good people, both of them, until one day, one of them wasn’t. It’s hard to wrap your head around.

Does it then mean, that given the right storm of events, anyone could be capable of murder? That’s a really scary thought.

I’m really sorry for what you went through.

Exactly...the right storm of events. Nice, ordinary people. No prior crazy behavior. Not even a bar fight for him. One of those nice people murdered those babies. But which one?
And thanks but it’s all in the past. I was mostly worried about the trauma and betrayal my girls felt. We are all happy and thriving! No pun intended!

 

[Allabouttrial]

Therein lies the mystery of this case. My girls and I, no one had a clue he had this Darkness in him. In all other ways he was wonderful. CW and SW both had admirable qualities so who killed those children? I think he did but I could be wrong.

It's just so hard to fathom, How, Why, What!!

 

[Johnny1181]

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[KathrynL]

John Walsh and Kathryn Herold, Watts’ defense attorneys, filed a motion Aug. 29 asking the court to have “the government” investigate extrajudicial statements that could prejudice a jury in the case.

Weld County District Judge Marcelo Kopcow wrote in the denial, filed on Sept. 10, that the defense failed to show any court violations or evidence of the defendant suffering from prejudice.

Defense has filed another motion regarding this issue, the Denver Post is a little behind. https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...NG DEFENSE MOTIONS (D29), (D30) AND (D31).pdf

 

[Sleuthine]

So, I just want to put out there.... very sincerely.

Why is it so much easier for some to grasp the theory of controlling, OCD, attention seeking woman.... who by all appearances and accounts but for one, was a go getter, a loving mother, one who may have taken a Christmas video too far, protective and loving mama who had perhaps good health insurance to make sure her babies were healthy.......taking a breath...

Loving wife who supported her husband (encouraged his 50lb weight loss per Steelers video) went out to earn her living, bought her own house that CW lived in prior to CO per VI, looked into her babies eyes and strangled one.... then after doing that moved onto the next.... watched both of their horrific deaths... all while CW went downstairs for a moment.... before he happened to see a "blue" face on a moniter

Vs the gitana1 post that has been here many times including by myself.

Sorry for the long post. Of course MOO MOO MOO

I personally don't believe that what CW is saying (SW strangling the kids how you described it) is true either. I currently don't know what to think. I think he is lying with some/most facts. But I am also not sure if I even believe the COD is strangulation.

 

[Allabouttrial]

But she did not publicly humiliate anyone. It was in a closed Lupus support group and highly unlikely that anyone knew her.

It was on her FB as well.

 

[PommyMommy]

The thrive bar has tree nuts (coconut). Maybe she's not allergic to all tree nuts.

Fwiw the MIL did not give the child with the nut allergy any ice cream with nuts.

BBM How do we know this again? I don't know if I ever knew or if I've forgotten.

 

[BeanieBod]

No, not aware of excessive dr’s visits.

Thank you. I should have asked this also. Did you see the girls as sickly or picky with foods?
ETA: wording