GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #65

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  1. MollyDDD

    MollyDDD Well-Known Member

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    She’s quite impressed with herself, isn’t she.
     


  2. MollyDDD

    MollyDDD Well-Known Member

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    I don’t understand how they ever got a mortgage for that house with their bad credit history.
     
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    They said they were NOT being paid...And even if they were who cares.
     
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    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    Why do you think medical professionals can't be misogynistic? The doctor that I worked for for years would make unmarried women wait for days for the results of a negative pregnancy test to 'let them stew for a while' while laughing about a good old boy having an extra marital affair with one of his school students.
     
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    k-mac Well-Known Member

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    really appreciate your post.
    agree very much.
    I do think shanann went away for 5 weeks to give him space to miss her and the kids.

    now i wanna say does THAT sound like something a terribly controlling woman would do???

    no .....exactly.
     
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  6. MollyDDD

    MollyDDD Well-Known Member

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    If you mean are they being compensated for their time and travel expenses, I would certainly hope so.
     
  7. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    Pg 1887 (Discovery pg 2082).

    8/4/2018 - NK Google searched for Chris and Shanann's Facebook accounts

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    NK could have seen the following recent posts showing SW was pregnant, they had 2 girls and SW was still going on vacations with Chris, praising him and taking photos and videos with him:

    June 9, 2018 picture of text SW got from Chris -- he calls SW "Baby":
    Shanann Watts

    June 10, 2018 picture of Bella and CeCe with chalkboard that says "Big Sister 101" and Caption:
    Ready or not, Celeste....Here comes Baby Watts #3
    Shanann Watts

    June 11, 2018 pic with caption:
    We had such an eventful weekend! 3 birthday parties, play dates, 3 thrive locals, concerts and more! 1st trimester is no joke! Today I’m packing the girls suitcase for our 6 week trip to NC! This should be fun! Then I need to pack mine! This will be harder since most wont fit. Then off to do a deep cleaning on house before the girls and I leave. Plus grocery shop for a “bachelor” for 5 weeks on his own and meal prep for him. A lot to do this week. Thankful for Thrive.
    Not doing #burn!
    #Doctorapproved

    Shanann Watts

    June 11, 2018 Picture of SW wearing the "Oops we did it again" shirt with caption:
    How Chris found out.
    Shanann Watts

    June 11, 2018 Video announcing the pregnancy to Chris and facebook with "Oops we did it again" shirt: Shanann Watts

    June 11, 2018 Video announcing to the girls that Shanann is pregnant. CW is silently videoing it as SW hugs her girls with both arms and the girls "hug the baby": Shanann Watts

    June 13 2018 picture pickles:
    Shanann Watts

    June 14, 2018 Video ask Bella "How many babies to I have in my belly," Bella says 5. Chris protests loudly, "Whoa!" in the background: Shanann Watts

    June 14, 2018 Video of Bella singing "My Daddy is a Hero" Shanann Watts

    June 15 2018
    picture of SW wearing a shirt that says "All I wanted was a back rub":
    Shanann Watts

    June 16 2018
    pictures of Chris shirtless mowing the lawn:
    Shanann Watts
    Shanann Watts

    June 16 2018
    picture with the caption:
    The last two pregnancy I never wanted to leave my house unless I had had too. This go around, I’m 4 years older and with two wild toddlers! I haven’t stopped! Saying yes to birthday party’s, going to friends house at 6pm at night, taking kids to parks and splash pads. I am in LOVE with this lifestyle of just Living and enjoying every moment with my family with out saying no, mommy is too tired! I’m addicted to creating memories and living life to it’s fullest.
    Shanann Watts

    June 17, 2018
    picture of Chris and CeCe at a movie theater:
    Shanann Watts
    June 17, 2018 picture of Shannan, Bella, CeCe and Chris together at the movie theater:
    Shanann Watts
    June 17 2018 picture collage of family photos with the caption:
    Chris, we are so incredibly blessed to have you! You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. You are the reason I was brave enough to agree to number 3! From Laundry to kids showers! You are incredible and we are so lucky to have you in our life! Happy Father’s Day!
    Shanann Watts
    June 17 2018 multiple wedding pictures of Shanann in her wedding dress with her dad:
    Shanann Watts
    Shanann Watts
    Shanann Watts
    June 17 2018 picture of CW wearing a shirt that says "I'm a proud dad of two awesome daughters who love the Steelers (and yes they bought me this shirt)."
    Shanann Watts

    June 18, 2018
    picture with caption:
    In less than 4 days Chris and I will be chillin on the Beach somewhere in San Diego! Much needed vacation before our trip to NC. #lifestylegetaway #pdforbylevel #vacation #sandiego
    Shanann Watts

    June 18, 2018 Video of a hail storm at their house. The girls are home. CW is there holding CeCe. SW mentions they are going to NC multiple time. She mentions Chris' truck getting beaten by hail. The girls have to go to sleep because of the NC trip coming up: Shanann Watts

    June 19, 2018 Shanann posts "round 2" viedo of a hail storm at their house. She mentions the kids are at school. Then she talks about having a dr appointment to find out if she is having 1 baby or two. She uses "we" throughout and says "Chris and I are hoping for 1" baby. She says they won't find out if it is a boy yet, she says Chris wants a boy and she hopes it's a boy for him as that will make him happy: Shanann Watts

    June 19 2018
    Ultrasound picture with Chris saying "Little peanut! Love her/him already!" and the caption:
    I love Chris! He’s the best dad us girls could ask for.
    Shanann Watts

    June 20, 2018
    picture with SW holding a bottle. We can see her wedding ring and the caption:
    So much to do today! But first I’m going to savor this Candy Cane Mix, which taste like mint ice cream shake.

    Grocery shop for kids and dad for weekend
    Pack kids and my clothes for 6 weeks in NC
    Pack for Chris and I in San Diego.
    Go buy a bathing suit
    Clean house/laundry
    Several calls today
    Color my hair

    1st Trimester and I’m full of energy and feel great! I love this!

    In less than 2 days I will be sitting on beach in San Diego and It is Free!

    Shanann Watts

    June 21, 2018
    picture of a sandwich with caption:
    Steak and Cheddar Panini...Just What Baby Watts ordered! #sogood — eating breakfast at Panera Bread.
    Shanann Watts

    June 21, 2018 picture of SW wearing a shirt that says "I'm creating a tiny human, what have you done today"
    Shanann Watts

    June 22, 2018 San Diego Trip Video. SW shows off their room. There is only one bed. SW refers to it multiple times as "our room" and shows of "our view." When she pans to some restaurants she mentions she is starving and then corrects and says "I should say the baby is starving because I don't usually eat this early or this much," Throughout her talk she uses "we" and "us" then Chris is in the background, he say "What's up!" and she says he is helping her get the bag situated: Shanann Watts

    June 23, 2018 San Diego "Flossin" Video. CW stands in the background talking to friends and stares at SW: Shanann Watts

    June 23, 2018 picture of SW with CW with caption explaining how she affords going on vacations with CW by selling LeVel:
    Shanann Watts

    June 24, 2018 San Diego Cruise video. CW is there behind SW and waves: Shanann Watts

    June 25, 2018 Video from the San Diego Trip. NU won her car bonus. SW pans the camera and CW is there: Shanann Watts

    July 1 2018 picture of SW, CW, Bella and CeCe at the airport with their luggage:
    Shanann Watts

    July 1 2018 picture of the car with caption:
    Chris deep cleaned my Lexus inside and out! #LuxuryAutoBonusEarner #PdForByLeVel
    Shanann Watts

    July 2 2018 picture of Bella and CeCe sleeping with caption:
    My kids are out cold since 12:30. I think I should wake them now. It’s almost 3pm. #Winning #thrivinpreggomama
    Shanann Watts

    July 2, 2018 picture with caption:
    Traveling with out kids is crazy, traveling with two toddlers and preggo is extremely crazy! Visiting with family is busy, especially when you haven’t seen some in over 3 years. It’s been a very busy, stressful, and fun! I’m sure glad I have Thrive right now. Keeping me calm, patient, energized, great sleep and happy! I’m winning!
    Shanann Watts

    July 3, 2018 picture with caption:
    I’m surviving this HUMIDITY, bugs the size of birds and the hustle with kids and family. We have been going non stop for over a week, lots of new Thrivers and I’m 9.5 weeks preggo. I’m truly grateful for the mood support and patience I get from Thrive. #needtocolormyhair #sunkissed

    July 5, 2018 video of the girls playing in the rain in NC. Shanann tells CeCe and Bella that "daddy is on here watching" them through the Facebook live post: Shanann Watts

    July 8, 2018
    picture of a baby gender test kit and asks if anyone has used it:
    Shanann Watts

    July 8, 2018
    picture of SW's manicure showing she is wearing her wedding rings:
    Shanann Watts

    July 10, 2018
    picture of Thrive pro bar with the caption:
    Middle of the night pregnancy hunger calls for Birthday cake ProBar. 20 grams protein,
    Shanann Watts

    July 11, 2018
    picture of the temp in car showing 110 degree outside with the caption:
    1st trimester or not it’s hot
    Shanann Watts

    July 11, 2018
    picture with the caption:
    I should be worn out from this heat and running around, especially 1st trimester! Going home to color hair now.
    Shanann Watts

    July 14, 2018
    picture of UNC baby outfit with caption:
    Bought baby Watts first outfit! — at North Carolina.
    Shanann Watts

    July 15, 2018
    picture of t-shirt that says "Exclude the Food, Not the Child" and the caption:
    Alecia, I need this shirt. And one for Celeste.
    Please don’t offer me food without asking my mom first. #FoodAllergykid


    July 15, 2018
    SW posts an Allergy Awareness post with caption:
    #Allergyawareness I have been on such HIGH alert this summer since we are traveling. Everything in our home is completely safe for Celeste so I don’t worry as much unless we go out to eat, which isn’t often anyway.

    Some understand and some think I’m being paranoid! I have to hear my kid cry after taking a treat out of her hand because someone gave it to her and I cant read the ingredients! She’s just turning 3 and don’t understand exactly why she can’t have what others are having. (She is never around ppl in Colorado that are eating something she can’t. So she doesn’t feel left out) she thinks she is in trouble when I say no to something she can’t have on this trip and I feel terrible for it!

    I’m so grateful for all our friends, especially in Colorado who consider my daughters safety when we are around or they come over for play date! I’m grateful for everyone who thinks and respects my daughters safety while we visit in NC.

    Trust me...it’s hard enough to have to read and re-read everything.


    Shanann Watts

    July 15, 2018
    video of Celeste's birthday party in NC (you can see SW's pregnant belly as she takes Celeste a cupcake): Shanann Watts

    July 16, 2018 picture of BoJangles fast food bag with caption:

    It’s Bo time! Sorry Chris, baby wanted it. — eating lunch at Bojangles'.
    Shanann Watts

    July 18, 2018:
    Picture with Bella hugging SW's belly and caption:
    Rubbing her baby she says.
    Shanann Watts

    July 19, 2018
    picture with the caption:
    Running errands with two wild kiddos. #Thrivin
    Shanann Watts

    July 26, 2018
    picture with Bella in the car and the caption:
    3rd pregnancy and I’m feeling really great! Not exhausted, not losing sleep , good mood , patience with two toddlers !! I’m glad I’m Thrivin and so is everyone around me ! If your not thriving, your missing out!
    #doctorapprovedandsupports #mykidslovethrivinmama

    Shanann Watts

    July 26, 2018
    picture of SW's manicure showing she is wearing her wedding rings:
    Shanann Watts

    July 29, 2018
    pictures of obviously pregnant Shanann with Bella and CeCe: Shanann Watts
    Shanann Watts

    August 1, 2018
    on Instagram, SW posted underneath the image: "I'm so excited about August! Girls and I Fly home August 7! I fly to Scottsdale Aug 10-12 for an amazing weekend with my Le-Vel family! Gender Reveal for Baby Watts #3!"
    Thrive Healthy Fit Mom on Instagram: “I’m so excited about August! Girls and I Fly home August 7th! I fly to Scottsdale Aug 10-12 for an amazing weekend with my Le-Vel family!…”
    She posted the same thing on facebook: Shanann Watts

    August 4, 2018
    picture of CeCe at the beach with the caption:
    The older she gets the more scared I am to let her out into the real world. The world of evil, the world of hate, the world of bullying!

    I was reading a post the other day where a kid was being bullied at school because of his nut allergies and a kid put a peanut in his drink as a joke! He could of died!

    The world is a scary place. I will do everything in my power to teach her right and to protect her, advocate, stand up for her and defend her! I pray everyday that she never feels any less than the rest of the world. I pray that she’s protected when I’m not around to protect her! Nothing or no one will stop me!

    #allergykid #treenuts #Kiwi #stopbullying #Stophate #Protectourkids #eoekid #asthmakid

    Shanann Watts

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    Pg 1887 (Discovery pg 2082).

    8/11/2018 - having concluded her evening tryst with Watts, Kessinger searched the internet on topics like "Chris Watts" - "Shanann Watts" - "Ronnie Watts" and "2825 Saratoga Trail"
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    In addition to all the above posts since her last search on 8/4, NK could have seen these new posts on SW Facebook:

    August 8, 2018
    picture with caption:
    -Went to bed at 2am, up at 5:15am
    -2 loads of laundry
    -dusted whole house
    -cleaned out fridge and pantry and restocked
    -2 grocery stores with kids
    -Celeste Doctor appointment ‍⚕️
    -emptied 7 suitcases/3 backpacks and put away
    -fed kids a million times
    -we all showered (we know this is a win)
    -went through 6 weeks of mail
    -washed kitchen floor
    -cleaned up kids disaster
    -repacked my suitcase for Arizona this Friday
    They literally said, “we’re going to bed!” And put themselves to bed! Rain machines on and all. They are obviously exhausted from traveling and playing. I’m over here knocking everything out and it’s only noon! The old me would live out of a suit case for 1-2 weeks till it was empty again.
    All while 4 months preggo! Love my Thrive Experience!
    #Doctorapproved

    Shanann Watts

    Aug 9, 2018 photo of doll covered with twister cloth (we now know from discovery docs that CW sent this to SW):
    Shanann Watts

    I previously posted the above here: GUILTY - CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #61

    NK lied when she said she found out SW was pregnant after the murders. She could have seen by Aug 4th and Aug 12th searches that they were expecting a third child, the baby belonged to Chris and they were happily married when NK claims to have started dating CW in June. Her Aug 4th google search of Shanann should have caused NK to break up with CW then if she really did not know before that. MOO.
     
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  8. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    They didn't have a bad credit history until they bought that house. SW seemed to manage her prior home mortgage payments.
     
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    MollyDDD Well-Known Member

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    But a naive and scared woman might.
     
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    I think they need to talk about this a lot and not be alone, maybe. Whether being paid or not. Dulls the pain for a while. Is this on tonight, Dec. 7 on 20/20?
     
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    I saw her phone log in June or July and there were tons of calls between NK and CW and that probably had a lot to do with it as you said, using their time and resources.
     
  12. Karinna

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    I'm not so sure about the Watts' financial standing. Weren't they bringing in about $140k a year between them? They should of had no problem affording a really good lifestyle with that much income IMO.
     
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    She lied to investigators, she said she didn't think he was the one her blah blah. Yet she lfor wedding dresses,apt, etc.
    WTH? I hope that they get investigated, aND get pressecuted,and sued into poverty.
     
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    NK may have dodged a bullet. Good thing this happened in CO and not NC. Could SW's estate go after NK had this happened in NC?

    As of 2016, alienation of affection was recognized in six United States jurisdictions:Hawaii, North Carolina, Mississippi, New Mexico, South Dakota, and Utah.
     
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    not sure what your getting at but I hope so
    and I hope they shout themselves on a round the world trip and get as far away from their nightmare for awhile as possible!
    god knows they deserve it
    shanann would love them to do something spectacular in her and the kids memory :)
     
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    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Oh that’s right, this was their first home together. Well the bank wouldn’t have lent them the money if they couldn’t afford the payment.
     
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    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Did you watch the Jodi Arias trial? ....yikes...they played the actual phone sex recordings, for the jury, with the defendant sitting on the stand, listening to her faking an orgasm, with her family, and the family of the man she brutally slaughtered, sitting and listening, awkwardly...
     
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    But nobody would ever believe Shanann would leave and leave her children behind.
     
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    It's just too damn stressful to live beyond ones means. I would guess that more people than not are going through the same thing. Keeping up.
     
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