GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #69

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  1. Hazelnutty

    Hazelnutty Innocent Bystander

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    To further hurt the Rzuchek family. The only reason I can think of. I don't think we'll ever know the full truth.
     
  2. molly1255

    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I think Dr. Phil would be so much better if he dialed down on the showmanship. It's a huge turn-off for me, but it's probably what brings in the really big advertising dollars. Sad.
     
  3. NanZDrew

    NanZDrew Well-Known Member

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    I also do not believe that he killed the girls at Cervi. There would be too much risk of them crying or making noise going to the truck. They would have been terrified about their mother's condition...if she was going to be o.k. We didn't see enough going back and forth to the truck to have two small children and a dead wife.

    Sadly I believe that Bella was awake and saw her mother dead, and knew that it was her father would was killing her.
     
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  4. Gardenista

    Gardenista Well-Known Member

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    That's you, but not them. They talk to Dr. Phil about it on Monday.
     
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  5. jewelsmac

    jewelsmac No one really knows why anyone does anything

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    JMO...Its definitely not about me. I stand corrected
     
  6. NanZDrew

    NanZDrew Well-Known Member

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    And let's remember that the afternoon before, he called coworkers and told them that he would check out CERVI in the morning. Those girls were dead long before the smothered them.
     
  7. MemPat

    MemPat The EARTH without ART is just EH.

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    Yes, and if he can squeeze a 3rd show out of this, he will. Count on it.
     
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    kittycat3 Well-Known Member

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    ?????
    Plenty of facts and evidence! The guy confessed to 4 murders. Why do you need a trial for a man who pleaded guilty ???
     
  9. molly1255

    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    I think so, too. In addition, NK told investigators two things that I believe shows he planned this out in advance.

    NK said she and CW were going to be looking at apartments the next week. She was looking for two bedroom apartments for him because he wanted an extra bedroom for the girls. She said that on their Saturday night date, he was not interested in discussing the apartment search and she found that strange.

    NK also said he paid for their Saturday night dinner with a credit card and that he'd used vouchers to pay on previous dates.
     
  10. TheVic

    TheVic Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe I am saying this, but I need to hear this from his mouth. That is the only way I am going to believe or not believe him and his story.
     
  11. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yup, I’ll be looking for all the usual tells:

    Peppering his sentences with “likes”

    Speaking in generalities

    Not being direct

    Does he pause?

    Does he distance himself from them by not using their names? (Not a tell, but telling)

    His body language will also be important (defensive, pacifying)

    A transcript is not a substitute for the video itself.

    I am leaning towards most of this being true, but he will answer the questions I have in regards to the veracity of some of his claims.
     
  12. mtnlites

    mtnlites Scooby Doo Gang Membership Pending

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    I don't know. At first I started questioning it, wondering if I'd somehow missed something on the first 5 read throughs I did of the documents. Then my senses came back and said, "Nah." Are we being punked?
     
  13. molly1255

    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    You are so right about this! I'm very anxious to hear it myself to see if there any of the "tells" we know so well.
     
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  14. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Unfortunately, I don't think we're getting video. The reporting said written report and audio file.
    MOO
     
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  15. TheVic

    TheVic Well-Known Member

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    exactly!
     
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  16. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    One thing he does have as an advantage, which in turn puts us at a disadvantage, is that he has had ample time to think this over.

    It’s easier to lie when you have all that time to rehearse.

    These investigators know this, and would have been in touch with FBI behavioral experts, who would have provided tips in regards to drawing the truth out of him.

    It was a chess match, and CW ain’t no chess player.

    He’s more of a “Connect 4” type.
     
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  17. TheVic

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    I'd love a video but I suppose I will settle for an audio file. Info in text and info through attorneys etc. are just words.
     
  18. TheVic

    TheVic Well-Known Member

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    How about a new and improved lie detector test? o_O
     
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  19. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    This does not make me happy.

    In fact, it makes me the opposite of that.

    That better be one detailed transcript!
     
  20. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Sorry, I won't mention that it's also being redacted then.
    MOO
     
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