Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90

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  • #721
I think he lost the phone somewhere. He was more concerned with that than he was if they found Suzanne. It's the 1st thing he asked about when notified of the bike being found. He continued to ask about the phone during his interviews even going so far as to think LE had the phone. He messed up and lost possession of it somewhere. I'd bet money on it.

A lot of the truck actions were the opening and closing of doors though. There was an abnormal amount of them. 1 or 6 times might be nothing but there are dozens of actions of the doors opening and closing. And if there was some kind of truck malfunction I find it highly curious and suspicious they happened right before he left for the day.

Why sit and think about things in the Men's Warehouse parking lot? Like you said he's hyper active. Why there out of all the places he stopped that day did he sit there? He had hours to think alone during his drive and the time he spent in his hotel room where he would be secluded. SOMETHING went down in that parking lot. It's one of the only times he sat still the entire day and can't be accounted for by video evidence. That is not normal compared to all his other movements and activities that day. I can't just put this out of my head. Everything he did that day had an explanation of some sort. I haven't seen ANYTHING that explains that. Not. One. Single. Thing.
Stakeout?
Monitoring someone?
 
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A lot of the truck actions were the opening and closing of doors though. There was an abnormal amount of them. 1 or 6 times might be nothing but there are dozens of actions of the doors opening and closing. And if there was some kind of truck malfunction I find it highly curious and suspicious they happened right before he left for the day.

Why sit and think about things in the Men's Warehouse parking lot? Like you said he's hyper active. Why there out of all the places he stopped that day did he sit there? He had hours to think alone during his drive and the time he spent in his hotel room where he would be secluded. SOMETHING went down in that parking lot. It's one of the only times he sat still the entire day and can't be accounted for by video evidence. That is not normal compared to all his other movements and activities that day. I can't just put this out of my head. Everything he did that day had an explanation of some sort. I haven't seen ANYTHING that explains that. Not. One. Single. Thing.
RSBM
We have all pondered what Barry was doing with the abundance of opening and closing of the truck doors. I suggested he was backtracking and looking for the needle sheath but maybe he was indeed looking for the phone and/or charger? We don't yet know but that’s an awful lot of loading and unloading if that’s even what it was. We know he disposed of lots of trash yet his truck remained full of trash when LE took the truck into evidence. Maybe there is an alternative explanation but what did he dispose of in so many dumpster trips? A phone and charger would amount to much less than what he disposed of IMO
ETA I was attempting to snip and respond to Derph while posting this. Sorry as I’ve made a mess of my quote and am tired and heading to bed. Maybe a mod can help and will reconcile my post. I will self report. Again apologies!
 
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  • #724
No, hopefully they mailed out the surveys so therefore, BM will have included on his monthly invoice, the postage fees, including sending them out and postage paid return envelopes, the time spent with hourly charges/fees for typing up/preparing the surveys, and also the billable time to review the surveys and finalize the results/conclusion of 60%.

Yeah, I know - wishful thinking that it went down this way but thought it might bring a chuckle to others as it did me when these thoughts came to my mind!

(Furthermore, this so called "survey" probably didn't even happen).
and did BM ( yes, I am immature at times and giggle everytime I type this LOL) but did he fill out the survey form for Suzanne also ??

Seems like he likes to just vote, answer, whatever for her even after she is missing.
JMO
 
  • #725
Interesting. Pp 35-36 (37-38)

The mystery second device... Barry used it twice on MD. At 8:47am and 11:47am.

At 8:46am Barry entered the hotel.

He was in and out several times .... but

...he left his hotel room at 11:46am.

That can't be a coincidence.

(Also perhaps worth noting, he used that device on 5/5, presumably while Suzanne was driving MM2 to the campsite. Things that make you go hmmmmm.... because one day later, Suzanne says she is done and three days later she is dead. What happened on 5/5???????)

What was he doing with/on that device????

Monkey business? (Monkey app -- is on The List)

JMO

Colorado Judicial Branch - Chaffee - Cases of Interest - People of the State of Colorado v. Barry Lee Morphew
 
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I think it is important to note also that according to Lauren Scharf's recap from court yesterday he signed on the witness/guardian line. I do believe when it does come to trial that it will be argued that he did not know he could not do that when in fact the form has a witness/guardian line for signature. The line where Suzanne would sign was blank. As I said, I personally have friends who did not know you could not vote as a guardian for someone else so it is entirely plausible that Barry didn't know what he was doing was against the law. I agree with the judge in that the short statement prosecution wanted to introduce his on the record comment about voting for XYZ into trial as evidence of his knowledge that she was deceased was not supported. He signed it as a guardian...the presumption being the person was alive but unable to sign.
Whether BM knew it was illegal or not at the time he signed it, IMO, doesn't even matter because obviously it was/is illegal or else he wouldn't be charged with it, correct? This discussion IMO is like beating a dead horse because whether it was BM that did it, or me that did it, or you that did it, makes no difference as regardless, he did something that was illegal. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Not even for Barry Morphew.
 
  • #727
Oh they're still together, and Barry better pray that it remains that way for the next several months.

I'm hoping that the story begins with "they met at a dumpster," and ends with "a woman scorned..."
In Dateline Keith’s voice “ You know what they say about a woman scorned. ……and. Be careful what you pray for”
 
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Well, we all know that BM called himself a tight-wad (Paraphrasing) so maybe he was there dumpster diving for suits for his anticipated court proceedings. LOL
Using his burner phone to call someone to say “ sitting here lookin at a dumpster and thought of you “ .
 
  • #730
No, hopefully they mailed out the surveys so therefore, BM will have included on his monthly invoice, the postage fees, including sending them out and postage paid return envelopes, the time spent with hourly charges/fees for typing up/preparing the surveys, and also the billable time to review the surveys and finalize the results/conclusion of 60%.

Yeah, I know - wishful thinking that it went down this way but thought it might bring a chuckle to others as it did me when these thoughts came to my mind!

(Furthermore, this so called "survey" probably didn't even happen).
Hahah, yeah and everyone replied! :D
You now know we, at this address, think Barry did it and we ain't gonna change our minds. Even an anonymous online poll would hold zero accuracy. Didn't happen, any which way it can be imagined.
If the judge falls for that, we're in BIG trouble.
I would love it if the JUDGE had asked them for proof of this 'poll', from where and how it was conducted and the tallied results.
Should not those questions have been immediately posed to the defense? Are their factual assertions above reproach?
It's very hard to impossible to know the exact responses/utterances to or from anyone in the courtroom from tweets.
Maybe the transcript will become available.
IMO, it's an extremely bizarre premise that they did a poll at all. I could walk up to 20 or less random people and ask them any question and come out with a 60% positive result of whatever when you consider the undecided.
Flipping horse pucky!
 
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Just scrolling through the AA, and I came upon this:
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It appears that GD believed there was an abduction (not surprising), but what's interesting is that he apparently concluded that the bike scene was "staged."

Abductors don't have a reason to stage a scene, as there is absolutely no need, but it's not as if he'd have much knowledge about something like that.

Clearly something didn't sit right with him about the whole thing though, which is important.
 
  • #733
I'm going to step wide here and add that MG may have inadvertently been involved in this process of removal. I have reason to suspect she was at the Morphew home late on the afternoon of the 9th.
^^rsbm

Yes, I'd say that's a wide step in the wrong direction. The Morphew residence is not a convenient location to simply stop by -- Maysville is a good 12-mile destination for anybody living in Salida.

I believe MG told investigators that BM cut their workday off early with his plans to "make the wife happy," and delivered MG to her vehicle left parked at the health club where she works out. She told investigators that she later learned that BM was seen shopping in town by himself on Saturday, and not spending time with SM as he alleged. MG did not say that she saw BM later shopping in town but learned from others. And she certainly didn't say that she later traveled to the Morphew residence.

Seems to me that MG lost much simply by association with BM and it doesn't follow that she would not be truthful with LE about her activities on Saturday. And by all means, if you have information stating otherwise, please share the link. TIA.

MOO

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Still Missing - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90
 
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  • #734
MOO if my father did my mother in.
If there was a chance he didn't do it, I guess I would want to believe.
I know this happens, I've seen it in a few high profile cases. I'm not even remotely familiar with true crime cases like most of you are but what I can't understand is how there can be so much information out there after this length of time - not talking about random youtubers or social media - just the court transcripts and the PH and the AA alone, how someone would not take the time to read it all. Not to mention the 'what's in your face' about the bike staging, dangerous home situation, impending divorce, lack of the accused joining in her brother's search, getting rid of her belongings, selling of properties and other mutual assets immediately, the list goes on and on.
NOT when it comes to your own mother or whichever parent, sibling or anyone in one's family.
The questions would not cease, neither in my mind or out of my mouth.
I've seen that kind of unconditional loyalty from children/family members toward suspected murderers who had a substantial amount of money. We don't know what BM really has or will have at the end of all of this so I'm not jumping to that conclusion. I'm sure he's been filling their heads with his carefully crafted rhetoric for years now, if not their whole lives - I get that.
It's just puzzling why they haven't looked into all of the evidence. At their ages, I surely would've. They're not children.
I think this is why their behavior is surprising and somewhat unsettling.
 
  • #735
Just scrolling through the AA, and I came upon this:
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It appears that GD believed there was an abduction (not surprising), but what's interesting is that he apparently concluded that the bike scene was "staged."

Abductors don't have a reason to stage a scene, as there is absolutely no need, but it's not as if he'd have much knowledge about something like that.

Clearly something didn't sit right with him about the whole thing though, which is important.
Yes, but when GD said that is important. Was it when he immediately went to the scene or after LE deduced that the bike/helmet was staged. This is going to be a very interesting trial.
 
  • #736
Yes, but when GD said that is important. Was it when he immediately went to the scene or after LE deduced that the bike/helmet was staged. This is going to be a very interesting trial.
Good point. This had to have been after, as CBI and the FBI wasn't involved on that first day.
 
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Still Missing - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90

AA pg 49/131: BM & MG workday --Saturday.

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AA pg 105/131:

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‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

Posted: Sep 10, 2020 / 07:36 PM MDT / Updated: Nov 11, 2021 / 12:19 PM MST

Gentile says the case has broken up her family, forced her to relocate, and is keeping her from finding employment.

“I got treated through all . this just like I’m the other woman, even though I’m not the other woman,” Gentile said. “I just happen to be a woman.”

[..]

“Barry had worked on the beach site Friday evening,” Gentile said. “Saturday, he had asked me to clean it up and rake it out, because we were going to bring it out to level – so it would be a beach sand and not muck.”

[..]

And, although Gentile had agreed to work in that area for the day, she said Barry dismissed her from the job early – at 11 a.m.

“He said that he had to go make the wife happy – do some hiking or biking,” she said. “And I found out, like, later that day that he was in town all day.”

Gentile said she heard Barry was out shopping by himself.

[..]

She said, the plans changed, pushing the project to the first of May, then changed again to the weekend of May 10. Gentile said she was surprised when Barry called her asking her to assemble a crew for the job.

“Last minute he changed everything. In fact, he called me that Sunday – Mother’s Day – and was really frantic, really didn’t sound like himself,” Gentile said. “I hung up the phone and I thought he just had the worst night of his life.”
 
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Still Missing - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90

AA pg 49/131: BM & MG workday --Saturday.

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AA pg 105/131:

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‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

Posted: Sep 10, 2020 / 07:36 PM MDT / Updated: Nov 11, 2021 / 12:19 PM MST

Gentile says the case has broken up her family, forced her to relocate, and is keeping her from finding employment.

“I got treated through all . this just like I’m the other woman, even though I’m not the other woman,” Gentile said. “I just happen to be a woman.”

[..]

“Barry had worked on the beach site Friday evening,” Gentile said. “Saturday, he had asked me to clean it up and rake it out, because we were going to bring it out to level – so it would be a beach sand and not muck.”

[..]

And, although Gentile had agreed to work in that area for the day, she said Barry dismissed her from the job early – at 11 a.m.

“He said that he had to go make the wife happy – do some hiking or biking,” she said. “And I found out, like, later that day that he was in town all day.”

Gentile said she heard Barry was out shopping by himself.

[..]

She said, the plans changed, pushing the project to the first of May, then changed again to the weekend of May 10. Gentile said she was surprised when Barry called her asking her to assemble a crew for the job.

“Last minute he changed everything. In fact, he called me that Sunday – Mother’s Day – and was really frantic, really didn’t sound like himself,” Gentile said. “I hung up the phone and I thought he just had the worst night of his life.”

I love how just hours before he murdered Suzanne, he talked about pigs being able to eat an entire body in 2 hours, and that he could bury a body and it would never be found.

It's almost as if he was thinking about what was to come, and perhaps hadn't solidified a plan for how he would dispose of Suzanne. Page 50:

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  • #739
I think he lost the phone somewhere. He was more concerned with that than he was if they found Suzanne. It's the 1st thing he asked about when notified of the bike being found. He continued to ask about the phone during his interviews even going so far as to think LE had the phone. He messed up and lost possession of it somewhere. I'd bet money on it.

A lot of the truck actions were the opening and closing of doors though. There was an abnormal amount of them. 1 or 6 times might be nothing but there are dozens of actions of the doors opening and closing. And if there was some kind of truck malfunction I find it highly curious and suspicious they happened right before he left for the day.

Why sit and think about things in the Men's Warehouse parking lot? Like you said he's hyper active. Why there out of all the places he stopped that day did he sit there? He had hours to think alone during his drive and the time he spent in his hotel room where he would be secluded. SOMETHING went down in that parking lot. It's one of the only times he sat still the entire day and can't be accounted for by video evidence. That is not normal compared to all his other movements and activities that day. I can't just put this out of my head. Everything he did that day had an explanation of some sort. I haven't seen ANYTHING that explains that. Not. One. Single. Thing.
Parlaying off of your comment...
Maybe he met someone there or was in the process of dropping someone off, eventually. We have no visual of his truck, of course. I don't remember if he was at the railroad stop before or after the Men's Warehouse. Anyway, it's always been a thought of mine that someone might've gone with him up there or met him there. Both doors opening at different stops made me question the possibility too.
Totally off topic, I think... as for the phone(s). Didn't Suzanne's phone ping at 3-something in the morning? Did he mistakenly use her phone? Couldn't find his but had to make that call? Either way, serious mistake.
 
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I know this happens, I've seen it in a few high profile cases. I'm not even remotely familiar with true crime cases like most of you are but what I can't understand is how there can be so much information out there after this length of time - not talking about random youtubers or social media - just the court transcripts and the PH and the AA alone, how someone would not take the time to read it all. Not to mention the 'what's in your face' about the bike staging, dangerous home situation, impending divorce, lack of the accused joining in her brother's search, getting rid of her belongings, selling of properties and other mutual assets immediately, the list goes on and on.
NOT when it comes to your own mother or whichever parent, sibling or anyone in one's family.
The questions would not cease, neither in my mind or out of my mouth.
I've seen that kind of unconditional loyalty from children/family members toward suspected murderers who had a substantial amount of money. We don't know what BM really has or will have at the end of all of this so I'm not jumping to that conclusion. I'm sure he's been filling their heads with his carefully crafted rhetoric for years now, if not their whole lives - I get that.
It's just puzzling why they haven't looked into all of the evidence. At their ages, I surely would've. They're not children.
I think this is why their behavior is surprising and somewhat unsettling.

I don't think we can discount that we have typical religious beliefs and then there are BM's religious beliefs -- purely for his benefit.

IMO, BM did his best to brainwash SM with his beliefs and it took her to almost age 50 before she could think for herself. In other words, I think BM has schooled the daughters to believe that they're to hate sin, but love the sinner. And love, honor, and obey the father-- regardless of his deeds!

I'm recalling BM telling Agent Grusing that he had to sell his daughters on forgiving SM over the affair by convincing them the affair was a sin no greater than other sins.

Personally, I really fear for them and the day that the light bulb goes off. You have to believe that one day that will happen. I think today it's all about self-protection and guarding their hearts and minds about reality (as we know it).

And I agree with @MassGuy -- it doesn't mean we have to like it. MOO
 
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