CO CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* #105

[FromGermany1]

I believe the facts show BM was already grilling steaks when investigators showed up. BM asked to pray over the food as the family always did. This was NO planned bbq and prayer service like you want to make it out to be. This had NOTHING to do with the judge’s decision.
Barry should be in prison right now, for life.

Nobody grills steaks, if he is alone .... What happened to the original guests, who actually were waiting for a nice meal?

 

[MountainDad]

I believe the facts show BM was already grilling steaks when investigators showed up. BM asked to pray over the food as the family always did. This was NO planned bbq and prayer service like you want to make it out to be. This had NOTHING to do with the judge’s decision.
Barry should be in prison right now, for life.

The FBI and CBI don't showed up unannounced at a suspected murderers home. It just another head scratcher in this case. It was planned. It was 6 hours long. It was a bbq and they prayed together. It is abnormal. It is preferential treatment. Barry should be in prison.

 

[Boxer]

Agree @mrjitty it could be a lack of resources. I was also wondering if perhaps there are those on Linda's staff whose job it is to supply discovery to defense, that are holding the discovery back as a way to discredit Stanley and sabotage her office.
Lots of games are played by all these political factions everyday across all parties IMO. Or yes, it could simply be Linda being not up to task - for whatever reason -and seemingly not caring. Just so strange. That a woman so driven - IIRC truck driver to lawyer - would fail so needlessly and glaringly. ALL IMO

MOO She had time to ill advisedly talk about the case on You Tube.
MOO she is not competent that all.

 

[K9Enzo]

Nobody grills steaks, if he is alone .... What happened to the original guests, who actually were waiting for a nice meal?

I believe it was as simple as grilling for himself and daughter(s), then thawing/preparing additional for LE when they arrived. LE broke bread with him. I’m sure a let’s get comfortable tactic. imo I believe the details are in the AA somewhere.

(I grill for just myself sometimes when home alone and did just last night while it was snowing)

 

[Lyanna]

The FBI and CBI don't showed up unannounced at a suspected murderers home. It just another head scratcher in this case. It was planned. It was 6 hours long. It was a bbq and they prayed together. It is abnormal. It is preferential treatment. Barry should be in prison.

I got the feeling they were sort of playing a 'long con' so to speak - reel him in, pretend to befriend him, get him to trust them and so on. Feel Grusing nearly got him too, imagine what another month could have done.

moo

 

[Love Never Fails]

I believe it was as simple as grilling for himself and daughter(s), then thawing/preparing additional for LE when they arrived. LE broke bread with him. I’m sure a let’s get comfortable tactic. imo I believe the details are in the AA somewhere.

(I grill for just myself sometimes when home alone and did just last night while it was snowing)

We grill outside all the time and if anyone shows up they are certainly welcome to join us. Grilled steaks are the best.

 

[Love Never Fails]

The FBI and CBI don't showed up unannounced at a suspected murderers home. It just another head scratcher in this case. It was planned. It was 6 hours long. It was a bbq and they prayed together. It is abnormal. It is preferential treatment. Barry should be in prison.

It wasn’t that way. It’s in the AA.

 

[MountainDad]

The night Suzanne went "missing", Mothers Day, Sunday. Barry drives back from the fake job. The CCso officers are clearly skeptical. Yet, They let him drive through the bike scene, walk around with his friend George, let him touch the bike, then escort him through the house. Was he "interviewed" at the precinct that night? I don't recall him ever sitting for an "interview" at a LE location- just random places at his discretion. Since barry is a bully and lying coward imo-i believe the Reid technique and confronting him on known lies would have yielded a much better outcome.



The Reid technique’s nine steps of interrogation are as follows
1.
Direct confrontation. Advise the suspect that the evidence has led the police to the individual as a suspect. Offer the person an early opportunity to explain why the offense took place.
2.
Try to shift the blame away from the suspect to some other person or set of circumstances that prompted the suspect to commit the crime. That is, develop themes containing reasons that will psychologically justify or excuse the crime. Themes may be developed or changed to find one to which the accused is most responsive.
3.
Try to minimize the frequency of suspect denials.
4.
At this point the accused will often give a reason why he or she did not or could not commit the crime. Try to use this to move toward the acknowledgement of what they did.
5.
Reinforce sincerity to ensure that the suspect is receptive.
6.
The suspect will become quieter and listen. Move the theme of the discussion toward offering alternatives. If the suspect cries at this point, infer guilt.
7.
Pose the “alternative question,” giving two choices for what happened—one more socially acceptable than the other. The suspect is expected to choose the easier option, but whichever alternative the suspect chooses, guilt is admitted. As stated earlier, there is always a third option that is to maintain that they did not commit the crime.
8.
Lead the suspect to repeat the admission of guilt in front of witnesses and develop corroborating information to establish the validity of the confession.
9.
Document the suspect’s admission or confession and have him or her prepare a recorded statement

 

[Love Never Fails]

The night Suzanne went "missing", Mothers Day, Sunday. Barry drives back from the fake job. The CCso officers are clearly skeptical. Yet, They let him drive through the bike scene, walk around with his friend George, let him touch the bike, then escort him through the house. Was he "interviewed" at the precinct that night? I don't recall him ever sitting for an "interview" at a LE location- just random places at his discretion. Since barry is a bully and lying coward imo-i believe the Reid technique and confronting him on known lies would have yielded a much better outcome.



The Reid technique’s nine steps of interrogation are as follows
1.
Direct confrontation. Advise the suspect that the evidence has led the police to the individual as a suspect. Offer the person an early opportunity to explain why the offense took place.
2.
Try to shift the blame away from the suspect to some other person or set of circumstances that prompted the suspect to commit the crime. That is, develop themes containing reasons that will psychologically justify or excuse the crime. Themes may be developed or changed to find one to which the accused is most responsive.
3.
Try to minimize the frequency of suspect denials.
4.
At this point the accused will often give a reason why he or she did not or could not commit the crime. Try to use this to move toward the acknowledgement of what they did.
5.
Reinforce sincerity to ensure that the suspect is receptive.
6.
The suspect will become quieter and listen. Move the theme of the discussion toward offering alternatives. If the suspect cries at this point, infer guilt.
7.
Pose the “alternative question,” giving two choices for what happened—one more socially acceptable than the other. The suspect is expected to choose the easier option, but whichever alternative the suspect chooses, guilt is admitted. As stated earlier, there is always a third option that is to maintain that they did not commit the crime.
8.
Lead the suspect to repeat the admission of guilt in front of witnesses and develop corroborating information to establish the validity of the confession.
9.
Document the suspect’s admission or confession and have him or her prepare a recorded statement

You could be right. I really like Agent Grusing though and trust his instincts. He cannot help what occurred with LE that night.
In almost every case I have followed, police or sheriff make mistakes. In someone they know, they give the benefit of the doubt. Not saying that’s correct but I felt the sheriff did a good job. Maybe small towns have poor training of their LE. Budgets matter.
If they had taken Barry in that night, maybe LE and FBI wouldn’t know what they know now. And remember he never cooperated with them.
Just saying.

 

[FromGermany1]

I believe it was as simple as grilling for himself and daughter(s), then thawing/preparing additional for LE when they arrived. LE broke bread with him. I’m sure a let’s get comfortable tactic. imo I believe the details are in the AA somewhere.

(I grill for just myself sometimes when home alone and did just last night while it was snowing)

Where did the daughter/s disappear to, when unwanted during a talk with Grusing & consorts? If they were complimented into the house, the talk wasn't longer so nice and comfortable, I can imagine. (Unless you're Barry and you really want to look at it that way.)

 

[CGray123]

1. The Reid Technique is a custodial interrogation strategy built on loss of control and social isolation. It doesn't work at all unless the individual is in custody (and advised of his rights), and is told he is a suspect based on the evidence police have (and the police can lie about what they have).

2. With an individual like BM who is accustomed to using lawyers and has the means to do so, upon arrest and advisement the POI typically stops talking and demands to speak with his attorney (as BM actually did when he was taken in to custody).

3. The fact that the Reid technique tends to produce false confessions and leads police to develop tunnel vision has led to the development of more effective techniques, like PEACE, developed in the UK, which the very experienced and well trained FBI investigators employed successfully in this case - producing the evidence which supported BM's arrest.

4. Far from being biased and unprofessional, PEACE is the future of interrogation. It dramatically reduces the problems of investigator confirmation bias and false confessions, among its many advantages over the medieval Reid Technique.

For an interesting discussion of these issues, see "A Severed Head, Two Cops, and the Radical Future of Interrogation".

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

The night Suzanne went "missing", Mothers Day, Sunday. Barry drives back from the fake job. The CCso officers are clearly skeptical. Yet, They let him drive through the bike scene, walk around with his friend George, let him touch the bike, then escort him through the house. Was he "interviewed" at the precinct that night? I don't recall him ever sitting for an "interview" at a LE location- just random places at his discretion. Since barry is a bully and lying coward imo-i believe the Reid technique and confronting him on known lies would have yielded a much better outcome.

Are you expecting a confession? That's unrealistic and unnecessary. There's already more than enough evidence.

 

[Aloe]

The FBI and CBI don't showed up unannounced at a suspected murderers home. It just another head scratcher in this case. It was planned. It was 6 hours long. It was a bbq and they prayed together. It is abnormal. It is preferential treatment. Barry should be in prison.

@MountainDad I am hoping you can tell me why they don't show up unannounced...
Thanks. BBM

 

[MountainDad]

@MountainDad I am hoping you can tell me why they don't show up unannounced...
Thanks. BBM

Barry was never mirandized, and questioned at his discretion at a location of his choosing.

 

[MountainDad]

Was he asked to take a polygraph or not? Should be a record...
"I've never been asked to do a polygraph," Barry explained. "There is nothing that I am hiding. I have given three — 30 hours of testimony to the FBI and the CBI. I've answered every question. Every single question."

 

[MountainDad]

Are you expecting a confession? That's unrealistic and unnecessary. There's already more than enough evidence.

Expecting some follow up questioning on the lies, which would further implicate BM.

Judge Murphy disagrees. He granted bail and said other possibilities exist, after hearing the evidence.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Expecting some follow up questioning on the lies, which would further implicate BM.

Judge Murphy disagrees. He granted bail and said other possibilities exist, after hearing the evidence.

So he was wrong. You've even said so too.

 

[Megnut]

Was he asked to take a polygraph or not? Should be a record...
"I've never been asked to do a polygraph," Barry explained. "There is nothing that I am hiding. I have given three — 30 hours of testimony to the FBI and the CBI. I've answered every question. Every single question."

He sure did, answered every question. Mountain lions, turkeys, elk, oh my. Just not a lot of truth-telling.

And no credible explanation from 2pm onward....

IMO his confession is right there -- between his fabrications and blanks.

SIckens me that he's free -- but that's what high-power, high-paid attorneys can do. The time and money to overwhelm and exploit the prosecution.

I hope desperately that Suzanne's remains will be found -- and that she hasn't been permanently entombed. Sweet the irony if the wildlife BM has hunted his whole life has a role in making her findable.

I'm glad BM didn't lawyer up. His reams of interviews are a gold mine.

Why would anyone say they were shooting chipminks with a .22? Only someone who didn't want to say what he was really doing.

GUILTY.

JMO

 

[Cindizzi]

I believe it was as simple as grilling for himself and daughter(s), then thawing/preparing additional for LE when they arrived. LE broke bread with him. I’m sure a let’s get comfortable tactic. imo I believe the details are in the AA somewhere.

(I grill for just myself sometimes when home alone and did just last night while it was snowing)

I couldn’t find it in the AA but it came up at day 1 of the Preliminary Hearing:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1424764116770557957

 

[Megnut]

I couldn’t find it in the AA but it came up at day 1 of the Preliminary Hearing:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1424764116770557957

Oh, mam. I didn't know there was going to be math.

Let's see. BM + 2G = 3 + 2 LE how many plates is that? One?

Steak calculus was always confusing to me.

But I love with all my heart that BM felt chummy with the detectives. I think he truly believed they were smelling what he was selling.

While they were smelling his BS all along!

Keep him talking. IMO it was a brilliant approach! Especially given his unfortunate skill of being able to barry a body where no one could find it. They needed his story-telling for the details that fell out of his face while he was busy yarning, right into the hands of LE.

Played him.

And the coup de grace -- "I trusted you."

Might've been Suzanne's last thought as well.

I hope it was so bitter on Barry's tongue he can still taste it.

JMO