CO CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #78 *ARREST*

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  1. Mysti88c

    Mysti88c Well-Known Member

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    A Chaffee County woman is missing after a neighbor said she went out for a bike ride Sunday and never returned
    Chaffee County woman missing since Sunday after neighbor said she went out for bike ride

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  4. Gardenista

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    BM needs to suck it up. Make up a credible story for 2nd degree and give up Suzanne's location so she can have a proper burial and do whatever time he's given.
     
  5. CGray123

    CGray123 "Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional."

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    @IRBHTX Here's the judge's language about the AA, in context BBM:

    "For the reasons that follow, the Court finds the nature of the affidavit and protection of the Morphew daughters each serve as substantial interests in justifying the continued sealing of the Affidavit under Rule 55.1.

    First, the Court has concerns about the amount of information contained in the 130-page Affidavit. The Affidavit is, by far, the lengthiest and most detailed affidavit the Court has ever seen in almost 30 years of criminal cases. A significant portion of the information in the Affidavit was not relevant to the Court's finding of probable cause and possibly not admissible at trial under the Colorado Rules of Evidence."

    Judge Murphy repeatedly refers to himself formally, as "the Court" throughout his written decision. I believe it's a reasonable inference from this that he found probable cause and signed the arrest warrant. How else would he be in a position to say that part of the information was not relevant to that decision? If he had no confidence in the AA, why would he do that?

    The judge was not expressing doubts about the sufficiency of the affidavit's contents IMO. To sum it up in my own words, he was saying only this in the context of the decision: that the lengthy and detailed affidavit would require a substantial amount of editing that would take time and require input from both parties. The nature of the affidavit was thus a substantial interest requiring that it be held until that job could be done.

    All MOO, of course.
     
  6. justtrish

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    So I am reading it as the AA had a lot of information that wasn't presented today that might be sensitive to the girls, maybe things they reported to police or things that were reported about them, their mother or father, that don't have anything to do with the case. Those things wouldn't have been brought up today so it's likely we didn't even hear about the things the judge was concerned about that were in the AA.
     
  7. skyedaze

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    so sealing the AA to protect the daughters. How does that protect them?
    From the media maybe?
    It's all gonna come out anyway...
     
  8. Warwick7

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    Well.....

    It will feel like years to Barry before Sept 17, 2021 comes. And that's just fine with me!
     
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  9. sunshine4040

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    That was 7 days ago. He He . IMO
     
  10. SleuthBee

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    There are other judges in that district. It's possible that Patrick W. Murphy is NOT the judge that signed the AA. 11th District Court
     
  11. Cindizzi

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    Y’all still don’t understand why the AA was sealed?

    16 when her Mom disappeared.
    13 or 14 when they moved to Colorado.
    JMO


    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...udge-set-to-rule-on-advancing-case-on-sept-17



    In a redirect, DA Jeff Lindsey questioned if Macy, one of Suzanne’s daughters, knew that her mother was going to leave Barry. In texts to Sheila, Suzanne wrote that Macy suggested that they could move to Salida and get jobs and even suggested a restraining order.

    “Macy assured me it would be find,” the texts reportedly stated. “Why don’t you do it without telling him,” Macy allegedly wrote, and, at one point, got so fired up she told Barry to leave Suzanne alone.

    Nielsen objected, saying Suzanne lied to Sheila on several occasions and that this was Suzanne’s interpretation not coming directly from Macy.

    The hearing moved on to the issue of Barry striking Suzanne. Grusing says there was such an incident, but that Barry said it was an accident where he apparently clipped the side of her nose with his hand.
     
  12. Trocroc9

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    I have been wondering about this. Including unknown male fluids and dna found in the back seat of mom’s car. Maybe there are things in that AA that are not relevant to this case but are relevant to these young girls lives. To me BM wouldn’t even care as long as it’s not him. Maybe judge is looking out for the girls better than their own father cared to do. I mean BM in his own words said he did only care about money and hunting.
     
  13. SleuthBee

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    BAM!
     
  14. (1) So you believe Judge Murphy is "the Court" that signed off on the arrest? (2) And that redaction was his main concern?

    I don't think that (1) is correct. I think a different judge did that, which weakens your reasoning.

    With regard to (2), I believe the MSM motion was correct in questioning whether the redaction being time consuming and would hold up the defense's investigation (which the law does not recognize as probative) was good legal reasoning. As the MSM indicated, justice does not depend on the convenience of the parties, it depends on following the law, the public's presumptive right to know in a speedy manner.
    JMHO
     
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  15. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I dunno. The rules of evidence allow for a lot of leeway during the preliminary hearing, so many of those things the judge was concerned about may very well have been presented.

    There’s just no way of knowing at this stage.

    So I tend to think redactions are for the most part, a moot point, as is its unsealing.

    Who knows though.
     
  16. Ontario Mom

    Ontario Mom stay safe ♥ be kind

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    I have a feeling that when we're finally able to read the AA ourselves (unless its crazy redacted) we'll finally understand the judge's ruling on this. I suspect there is indeed more upsetting info to come out.

    jmo
     
  17. Huh? I guess you'll have to indulge me and spell it out.
     
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    Ontario Mom stay safe ♥ be kind

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    Yeah, me too. I'm not following.
     
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  19. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    The judge failed to rule today at the conclusion of the PH whether or not the state met their burden to bind BM over to trial. He also failed to rule if the State met PEPG (i.e., whether or not BM will be denied bail after being charged with a capital offense - 1st-degree murder).

    ETA: To be clear, Judge Murphy has made it known that time is of the essence given the defendant is being held in jail, and the Sept 17, 2021 in-person hearing date to deliver the ruling, is due to the calendars of all the parties.

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    Important note- The judge said today it would be hard to find a date that all parties involved would be available, you're looking at two large teams on both the prosecutions and defense sides who likely have other cases that already have dates set for hearings.
    @KKTV11News

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  20. SleuthBee

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    IIRC, Patrick Murphy also needed time to prepare his decision for not releasing the AA. And at this point, I am scratching my head to make sense of that reasoning. With all that he knows about this case, I don't understand his need to prolong the decision.
     
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