Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #49

[Yesiamapirate]

From our local hospital here working with plasma from recovered patients.

St. Joseph Mercy Hospital treats first COVID-19 patient with plasma from coronavirus survivor

 

[tresir2012]

BBM The headline doesn't reflect what Emanuel "the ilk" actually said, reflects what he didn't say....."US must stay locked down". No, he didn't say that. Not your fault, but that is not what he said, nor the gist of what he said. Actually he pointed out that 60,000,000 people are still working presently to keep things going for the rest of us.
"Realistically, COVID-19 will be here for the next 18 months or more. We will not be able to return to normalcy until we find a vaccine or effective medications. I know that's dreadful news to hear. How are people supposed to find work if this goes on in some form for a year and a half? Is all that economic pain worth trying to stop COVID-19? The truth is we have no choice.

If we prematurely end that physical distancing and the other measures keeping it at bay, deaths could skyrocket into the hundreds of thousands if not a million. We cannot return to normal until there's a vaccine. Conferences, concerts, sporting events, religious services, dinner in a restaurant, none of that will resume until we find a vaccine, a treatment, or a cure.
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"One thing I've learned as a cancer doctor is that it's wrong to paint an overly rosy picture in order to maintain a patient's hope. It's wrong because it fails. It's false. Biology and disease are formidable opponents that inevitably tell us the truth. We cannot relieve the oppression of this pandemic until we are realistic."

Why hasn't it skyrocketed in China and Japan, Sweden, and Germany.

In fact can anyone explain the low deaths in those countries? What are they doing right that USA and UK are not?

 

[NuttMegg]

sbm

Everyone is entitled to medical help, even prisoners, so why are you saying this?

Not in the USA unless they enter an emergency room, even then that isn't for sure, depends on the type of hospital. Some 25- to 30,000,000 people have no health insurance in the USA. Many others are under insured with the sketchy plans sold in the last few years, which apparently cover everything but what you have. Only slightly exaggerating. Even medicare pays only about 80% unless the senior has supplemental coverage they pay extra for.

 

[otto]

Guillain-Barre Linked to COVID-19 in Italy
— Five patients developed GBS following COVID-19 infection
April 17, 2020

The Canadian student I mentioned a few days ago had Epstein-Barr as well as covid.

"Greenshields was admitted to hospital on March 25 and to his surprise, tested positive for COVID-19 and for Epstein-Barr virus, better known as mono."​

'Scariest experience of my life': Okotoks man becomes youngest ICU patient in Alberta from COVID-19

 

[CSIDreamer]

From our local hospital here working with plasma from recovered patients.

St. Joseph Mercy Hospital treats first COVID-19 patient with plasma from coronavirus survivor

I'm anxious to hear how this goes!

 

[NuttMegg]

Why hasn't it skyrocketed in China and Japan, Sweden, and Germany.

That article I posted doesn't address anything like that, so I don't know how to answer.

 

[Henry2326]

JOHN BURN-MURDOCH- statistician for Financial Times

US

Too early to tell if daily deaths has peaked.
Appears that confirmed cases has plateaued.
NY daily deaths has peaked (excluded nursing homes)

John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

 

[tresir2012]

Not in the USA unless they enter an emergency room, even then that isn't for sure, depends on the type of hospital. Some 25- to 30,000,000 people have no health insurance in the USA. Many others are under insured with the sketchy plans sold in the last few years, which apparently cover everything but what you have. Only slightly exaggerating. Even medicare pays only about 80% unless the senior has supplemental coverage they pay extra for.

So who is paying for the CV19 patient care in US. hospitals ? And who pays their bill if they die? Especially all those in NYC who were buried in mass graves with no relatives claiming there bodies?

So the lucky ones who survive must get an enormous bill on their release.

 

[otto]

Without money and economy, What is left?? .. People, Hope!! ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD CANNOT BUY YOU GOOD HEALTH!! X

I posted this last night, but it's part of this discussion ...

Was it Immanuel Kant who discussed respect the autonomy of others? Simply put, that means everyone can do whatever they want as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others. Autonomy without respect is to "pursue a course of action in one's life, often regardless of any particular moral content."

Autonomy | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy

People can protest as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. With the virus, people who gather in groups of more than 5 are increasing the probability for transmission of the virus. The Ro (R-not) for this virus is 2-3 people, at a minimum. That means for every infected person, 2-3 others will be infected after minimal contact. Of those, based on China stats, 20% of all ages will be hospitalized (link).

Self-isolation reduces the probability of transmission, easing the strain on hospitals and health systems. I suppose, eventually, everyone will be exposed and the plan is to ensure that necessary health services are available as it ripples through global societies. Everyone, even asymptomatic people, have a responsibility to reduce and stop the transmission of the virus.

It is important to respect the autonomy of others, especially in the time of plague.

 

[Henry2326]

JOHN BURN-MURDOCH- statistician for Financial Times

Small multiples of daily deaths in subnational regions, grouped by country
• Rio de Janeiro
• 30 US states, steepest curves include CT, IL, MD, MA, MD, PA
• Sicily, Sardinia, Balearics, Canaries all low curves: do islands fare better?
All charts: Coronavirus tracked: the latest figures as the pandemic spreads | Free to read John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

Small multiples for daily new deaths in countries:
• Norway locked down while Sweden didn’t; Norway’s daily death toll rising much more slowly than Sweden’s
• Australia faring well so far
• In Europe, Austria, Denmark & Norway faring well
All charts: Coronavirus tracked: the latest figures as the pandemic spreads | Free to read John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

 

[Henry2326]

JOHN BURN-MURDOCH- statistician for Financial Times

Small multiples for daily cases in 76 countries:
• Bangladesh
• Early action in Australia & New Zealand may have turned corner
• Austria & Norway locked down early; new cases falling
• Watch as countries relax lockdowns
All charts: Coronavirus tracked: the latest figures as the pandemic spreads | Free to read John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

 

[jjenny]

Fabulous find that this is now being tracked! Thanks for the link. This is so very key, and interesting in going back on a tab to see what it was a week ago. Another to follow longer term.

Hard to believe it's accurate. I looked at the numbers and it didn't exactly make sense to me. How do they know how many people are infected by each infected individual anyway?

 

[Tony1902]

well if it's the best kinds then it has to be regular gardeners because the rest of us don't know the difference

I understand, but the people who do bio-dynamic gardening have never that I know of JMHGO have ever hoarded like this. Just trying to figure out what’s happening.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Maybe they need individual room heating/air somehow? I think @10ofRods said something about the virus in the duct work. Jmo

The fact is, the entire rest home situation in this country needs to be revamped. It was riddled with issues before this. Many are hell holes. This just makes it even worse - death traps.

 

[cody22]

White House Briefing is starting................................moo​

 

[Henry2326]

JOHN BURN-MURDOCH- statistician for Financial Times

I talk a lot about whether or not peaks have been reached.
A good metric for this is hospitalisations:
• More reliable than confirmed cases (not influenced by testing regimes)
• Shorter lag than deaths
So here are some charts showing hospitalisations in various countries:

First, Italy:
Colour = phase of outbreak
• Red: more new hospitalisations every day than day before
• Orange: total hospitalisations rising, but rate of increase slowing
• Blue: fewer people in hospital than before
Almost all Italian regions now in "reduction" phase John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

Next, Spain:
• Madrid & Catalonia now firmly in "reduction" phase
• In most other regions, rate of increase has slowed but each day still brings more new hospitalisations than discharges
• Balearics facing second acceleration? John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

France:
• Rate of increase in hospitalisations dropping across the board, and some regions beginning to see total occupancy fall including epicentres Ile de France & Grand Est John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

US:
• Hospitalisation data patchy from state to state
• NY & Louisiana both in the "reduction" phase, hospital bed occupancy dropping
• Rate of acceleration falling in NJ & Colorado, hopefully soon net reduction
• Connecticut still has a way to go before occupancy falls John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

UK:
• Hospitals in London & Midlands now have fewer covid patients with each day
• Rate of increase slowing elsewhere across UK
• Suggests UK is at or near peak for new infections, though too early to say, and care homes of course absent from this view John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

Stockholm:
• Remember Sweden has not locked down like most places
• But signs suggest a steady deceleration in new hospitalisations
• Daily hospital beds occupied still rising, but currently on course for net reduction soon John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone,

Please just move on from the discussion about the protesters and who's right or who's wrong. It's resulting in nothing but back and forth bickering that is going nowhere and is not productive.

Thanks.

 

[Tillicum]

Ohio COVID-19
11,292
Confirmed Cases
310
CDC Expanded Case Definition (Probable)
11,602
Total Cases
2,565
Number of Hospitalizations in Ohio
453
Confirmed Deaths
18
CDC Expanded Death Definition (Probable)
471
Total Deaths
765
Number of ICU Admissions
<1-106
Age Range
52
Median Age
57%*
Sex - Males
43%*
Sex - Females

 

[Tillicum]

I understand, but the people who do bio-dynamic gardening have never that I know of JMHGO have ever hoarded like this. Just trying to figure out what’s happening.

I think with talk of 12-18 months before a vaccine and getting back to normal that the regular customers may have increased their orders. Probably many made suggestions to friends and family who wouldn't normally be ordering too. JMO

 

[Henry2326]

COVID-19 TRACKING PROJECT....slightly higher than the running 150k.

Our daily update is published. We’ve now tracked ~3.9 million tests, up 167k from yesterday, the 2nd-largest single-day total.
Note that we can only track tests that a state reports. And not all states report all tests.
For details, see: The COVID Tracking Project The COVID Tracking Project on Twitter