Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #75

[Amonet]

The number of people already infected by the mystery virus emerging in China is far greater than official figures suggest, scientists have told the BBC.
There have been 41 laboratory-confirmed cases of the new virus, but UK experts estimate the figure is closer to 1,700.

New virus in China ‘will have infected hundreds'

Up to 4,500 patients in China may have caught the same strain of coronavirus that has killed two people, scientists fear.
Health officials in Wuhan – the city at the heart of the outbreak which started in December – confirmed four new cases today, taking the total to 48.
But Imperial College London researchers say this may be the 'tip of the iceberg' after analysing flights out of the city.

Scientists fear up to 4,500 Chinese patients may have caught the new coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

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[Tricia]

Hey Everyone,

If you want to quote what the president or anyone in his administrations who give information on what they are doing to contain the virus that is absolutely fine.
THIS IS ME BEGGING NOW. NO MATTER HOW FRUSTRATED YOU FEEL, HOW GRATEFUL YOU FEEL OR HOW YOU FEEL WITH ANY OF THE COMMENTS COMING FROM THE WHITEHOUSE OR THEIR ADMINISTRATION DO NOT PUT IT ON THIS THREAD. DO NOT PUT TOGETHER A POST THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICAL STATEMENT AND THEN TRY AND SAY IT IS NOT.
PLEASE USE OUR PRIVATE MESSAGING SYSTEM IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS POLITICS IN ANY WAY. YOU CAN HAVE UP TO 20 PEOPLE ON A PRIVATE MESSAGE. LOOK IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER. YOU WILL SEE YOUR USER NAME. NEXT TO THAT IS "INBOX". CLICK ON INBOX AND YOU CAN ACCESS YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGE SYSTEM.

OK, not begging now.

I am so impressed with our members posting much-needed info and members helping each other. I swear I sit here and cry happy tears at how incredible you are with this pandemic.

Please join me tonight on Websleuths Live on YouTube at 10:00 PM Eastern. CLICK HERE to join us live. We have a great chat room going on. and I want to personally invite you all to join us. One main rule. If you a jerk in chat or if you start making inflammatory comments about politics or whatever you will be kicked out. Then you will be forced to listen to Donny Osmonds "Puppy Love" for 30 days. So please behave.
See you tonight.
Love,
Tricia
PS. I actually love Donny Osmond. Very talented, a great businessman and fantastic human being, but, Puppy Love is painful. LOL

 

[Sillybilly]

Please remember ...

No blatantly political posts.
Do not be rude or argumentative.
Do not discuss other members or enquire as to their whereabouts. Members are entitled to their privacy.

Do not discuss moderators, moderation, or removed posts. Doing so can result in a temporary or permanent ban from Websleuths.

If you state information as fact, you must provide a link to support that fact. No link, no post !!

Members may copy their own posts from the general discussion thread over to relevant, more local threads in other appropriate Covid-19 sub-forums. If you think someone else's post relates specifically to another thread within the forum, please use the Report feature to let Mods/Admins know and we will move it on over for you.

If you wish to start a new thread, please run it by a Mod or Admin for approval.

Stay safe, healthy, strong and be kind to others.

 

[Sillybilly]

Permanent thread bans have been and will be issued for members who persist in trying to make the thread about politics.

In case you have not read the opening posts above, please etch this part of Tricia's post above in your memory:

NO MATTER HOW FRUSTRATED YOU FEEL, HOW GRATEFUL YOU FEEL OR HOW YOU FEEL WITH ANY OF THE COMMENTS COMING FROM THE WHITEHOUSE OR THEIR ADMINISTRATION DO NOT PUT IT ON THIS THREAD. DO NOT PUT TOGETHER A POST THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICAL STATEMENT AND THEN TRY AND SAY IT IS NOT

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone,

Politicizing is not allowed. We realize it's difficult to separate Covid from politics in this discussion, but ...

If you are going to post about 1 or 1 million people attending a rally, a church event, etc, put on by God knows who, make sure your post indicates how the content of that post relates to Covid19 and isn't just about politics or political figures.

From Tricia's post at the beginning of each of these threads:

NO MATTER HOW FRUSTRATED YOU FEEL, HOW GRATEFUL YOU FEEL OR HOW YOU FEEL WITH ANY OF THE COMMENTS COMING FROM THE WHITEHOUSE OR THEIR ADMINISTRATION DO NOT PUT IT ON THIS THREAD. DO NOT PUT TOGETHER A POST THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICAL STATEMENT AND THEN TRY AND SAY IT IS NOT.

 

[Sillybilly]

This post lands at random.

Address the post and NOT the poster.

Snarky, rude and personalizing posts that disrespect or denigrate another member get removed and may result in a permanent Thread Reply Ban or a board Time Out.

 

[Sillybilly]

Politics, racial tensions, dismantling of statues, and protests are off limits.

If members wish to mention protests as they relate to the potential for spreading of the virus, that's fine, but otherwise it is off limits.

 

[Sillybilly]

This post lands at random.

It is a violation of TOS to post off topic. Political and other off topic posts have been removed and serious TOs are being issued for those who derail the thread with such posts.

WS does not have a staff of hundreds to deal with all the Reports of TOS violations, not to mention it is very discourteous to members and guests who come here to read about the virus.

Stay on topic or there will be a loss of posting privileges.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

10ofRods is a Verified medical anthropologist and as such they are not required to provide links to information that is within the area of their expertise.

 

[Sillybilly]

This post lands at random.

The Covid19 forum was set up by Tricia for those who take this virus seriously and are concerned about its effects on them and their loved ones. If you aren't concerned about Covid then please don't post here with a view to downplaying or minimizing the threat and making others feel that their concerns are not warranted.

If Covid does not concern you, this thread is not for you.

 

[Sillybilly]

Admin Reminder:

ALL images require a link to the source or the post will be removed. (It must be an actual clickable link for other members to access directly, not just saying where it came from or having the source show on the page.)

Random links or random videos are not allowed and will be removed. If you aren't sure, please check with a Mod or Admin by sending a private message to ask.

Thanks.

 

[Sillybilly]

Tricia has approved discussion of the Obama administration's "Pandemic Playbook" (as linked by CharlestonGal upthread, Stanford Univ. link to document at Politico).

 

[Sillybilly]

IMPORTANT:

We are receiving far too many complaints about posts that are minimizing the severity of Covid19 and its impact on human lives.

Websleuths has chosen to place their trust in Dr. Fauci, the CDC, the scientific data and those with extensive pandemic knowledge and expertise. If you aren't prepared to accept their recommendations and advice, or if you have a cavalier attitude about the health consequences of this deadly virus on yourself or others, then please don't post in this forum.

There are other "anything goes" forums on the internet that may be more to your liking as they do not have the same posting guidelines.

Please continue to Report any posts that you feel are contrary to the forum specific policies Tricia has put in place, or posts that you feel are not in the spirit of this discussion.

Thank you.

 

[Sillybilly]

Are we allowed to cite Dr. Birx or is she off limits? Thank you.

Dr. Birx is not off limits. As Coordinator of the WH Coronavirus Task Force, I think we can appreciate that she is in a delicate position. WSers are certainly free to consider her recommendations and perhaps make their own determination of how those recommendations compare to Dr. Fauci's.

 

[CocoChanel]

PLEASE DO NOT DEBATE.
ANYTHING.
THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS FOR.

IF SOMEONE POSTS AN OPINION YOU DISAGREE WITH, THAT IS NOT AN INVITATION TO ENGAGE IN A DEBATE. REPORT THE POST IF YOU MUST, BUT DO NOT DO SO IN A DISRESPECTFUL WAY TO MODERATORS.

OTHERWISE MOVE ON. STATE YOUR OWN OPINIONS WITHOUT ENGAGING WITH THE ONES YOU DISAGREE WITH.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

This post lands at random.

Please stop discussing the recent video that contains unproven medical advice that is contrary to the advice of known experts like Dr. Fauci, is disseminating misinformation about hydroxychloroquine being a cure, and dismisses scientific findings to the contrary as fake science.

When Tricia started the Covid forum, she made the decision that attempts to downplay the severity of Covid19 are not welcome at Websleuths. When the material presented appears to be misinformation or propaganda or an attempt to minimize the severity of the Covid19 threat, it will be removed regardless of the source.

If someone disagrees with this policy, they are of course welcome to that belief and opinion, but WS is not the place for it in this particular instance. There are other sites that don't have this same policy in place where people may express thoughts that are contrary to the position Websleuths has taken.

 

[Sillybilly]

Folks, if you have an issue related to TOS or moderation, discussing other members, etc .. please just Report it without discussing it on the thread. It is off-topic and just ends up with us having to read through pages of posts to catch all the subsequent responses over something that has nothing to do with Covid.

Report it and do NOT respond. Let Mods review it and deal with the matter accordingly.

Thank you.

 

[Sillybilly]

Folks, please remember the 10% copyright rule. It's not just WS being fussy, it is copyright law.

Copy the most salient point within the 10% limit, and you can paraphrase other points if you wish.

 

[Bravo]

Anyone coming into Canada is required to quarantine for 14 days. Also some good info here for folks who may be thinking about travel outside of Canada
Travel Advice and Advisories

 

[10ofRods]

The above article says that inflight transmission is low:

"However, it is important to understand the incidence of individuals contracting a communicable disease inflight is very low. As evidence, consider what are called 'cluster outbreaks,' where a group of people contract a disease at the same time and location. These are rarely if ever tied to modes of travel, whereas you often see reports of outbreaks arising from funerals, bars or other gatherings," Fitzpatrick said.

An Air Canada fact sheet says, "the reasons for the apparently low rate of in-flight transmission are not fully determined but are thought to include a combination of the lack of face-to-face contact, and the physical barriers provided by seat backs, along with the characteristics of cabin air flow."

I am not sure how much I agree with this, JMO.

I read that on-ground transmission is higher than in-flight. (66% of Delta employees in the 600 announced early in June, I think, were on-ground). And the TSA agent thing. It's possible that indoor recirculated air settings are way more dangerous - planes apparently have HEPA filtering (and now, masks...supposedly).

I really don't know what to think either.

I agree with Fitzpatrick that funerals and bars seem to be higher transmitters (people's faces close together, lots of energetic talking? someone is coughing but everyone ignores it?)