Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #80

[musicaljoke]

Yes!! <And the people burst into wild applause!>

From the article:

The House of Commons has unanimously passed legislation authorizing new benefits for workers left jobless or underemployed by the COVID-19 pandemic.

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[tresir2012]

Hopefully all of these people will be going right into a self-imposed 14 day quarantine when they return, as self-responsible people would. imo

Why would they need to quarantine if they have a negative test result on return? Or a vaccine if one is a available by then? Any quarantine would be for their home state or country to mandate, the same as now with air travel.

 

[margarita25]

Hopefully all of these people will be going right into a self-imposed 14 day quarantine when they return, as self-responsible people would. imo

Ha! That is the joke of the year. Falling off my chair!

 

[beatrixpotter]

As you may know, Israel got pretty good control over CoVid and now is entering major new lockdowns during what they're calling a Second Wave.

Medical reports from Israel show that the symptoms and course of the disease are more serious in the second phase.

40% of younger patients are seriously ill. This is being reported in other places as well.

"COVID-19 Patients Are Far More Ill During Current Wave," Mayanei HaYeshua Director Says - The Yeshiva World

The article states that Israeli doctors believe the virus is much worse in this phase (and there are a number of pre-prints on why this could be so, including the fact that some people may have already had an asymptomatic or mild case - but that instead of gaining immunity, CoVid may do something permanently damaging to the immune system).

Ugh, that's depressing and scary. We just went through a big wave here in my state but the numbers have dropped drastically. And I was talking to one of my doctors who treats COVID patients in the nephrology department and he said they hadn't have a covid kidney patient in a month so things seem to have really turned around here. I don't know why though. I'm worried about this winter. I'm sick of trying to guess what level of isolation we need to live with.

 

[margarita25]

As you may know, Israel got pretty good control over CoVid and now is entering major new lockdowns during what they're calling a Second Wave.

Medical reports from Israel show that the symptoms and course of the disease are more serious in the second phase.

40% of younger patients are seriously ill. This is being reported in other places as well.

"COVID-19 Patients Are Far More Ill During Current Wave," Mayanei HaYeshua Director Says - The Yeshiva World

The article states that Israeli doctors believe the virus is much worse in this phase (and there are a number of pre-prints on why this could be so, including the fact that some people may have already had an asymptomatic or mild case - but that instead of gaining immunity, CoVid may do something permanently damaging to the immune system).

Oh boy, shades of 1918. Let’s hope this isn’t the case.

“”We’re seeing now what Europe experienced with the virus during the first wave. I don’t know if it’s the same coronavirus or if it mutated but there’s no doubt that it’s far more harmful. We’re seeing severe damage that we didn’t see during the first wave.”“

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Re: mutations, last I saw there have been 4,000 mutations, iirc, per Dr. Maria, and this was a while back. However, according to Dr. M, it is normal for coronaviruses to mutate mildly, and there are many eyes on all the mutations, as they are all monitoring these mutations closely. So, far, other than the case of the more infectious mutation per some reports, that one was not more deadly. We have also seen a previous mutation in the early days which was said to be milder. As we know, the second wave of the 1918 flu was fueled by a far more deadly mutation. That mutation was so horrific, symptoms all noted in the early threads, people dying within hours, ears.... it was so bad I had to the documentary off the first time (if anyone wants more information let me know). As we know, the first mutation of the first wave during 1918 affected the younger folks.

It will be every interesting to learn more about this, I’m anticipating this may be addressed in an upcoming WHO conference.

Thanks for posting this, @10ofRods.

 

[tresir2012]

So.

Again, I read here every day, but don't post often. I'm a quiet observer.

I have posted at least twice that I think I had Covid at the beg. of January.

My hair has thinned big time. I still. STILL have a cough. My left ear still has fluid in it. I have sharp pains ( I dunno if this is a thing) like when you eat something cold? That sharp pain in your head? I have them in my feet and hands mostly...but sometimes in other places. I have shortness of breath. I have major anxiety (which I had before so that doesn't count). Also, I'm in pre menopause ...I know TMI but it's important. Have not had a period since the beg. of Jan....but have had one a week ago.

What are people stocking up on now? I have read that you guys think it will get bad again. Any lists of of things I should buy would be most welcome.

And, as always, thanks for all of the smart people that post here. (((hugs)))

For hair loss and aches and pains I recommend cod liver oil , calcium +vitamin d (for hair, nails, teeth and bones) and I also take Glucosamine +vit C. Get a flu jab. Eat well, take regular exercise and look after yourself. I am sure others will add more suggestions too.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Why would they need to quarantine if they have a negative test result on return? Or a vaccine if one is a available by then? Any quarantine would be for their home state or country to mandate, the same as now with air travel.

Are they getting tested as they are boarding the ship?
They would need to quarantine for 14 days at a designated facility and then be tested again since people get off the ship for excursions, etc.
I doubt that happens.
JMO

 

[margarita25]

Are they getting tested as they are boarding the ship?
They would need to quarantine for 14 days at a designated facility and then be tested again since people get off the ship for excursions, etc.
JMO

This is a cluster fudge no matter how you look at it. Outbreaks are inevitable. Even if they are “tested”.

 

[24Roses]

Iowa news today: As of 11:00 a.m. today, we had IMO 929 new confirmed cases for a total of 88,555 confirmed cases of which 68,365 had recovered (IMO +904). 17 more passed away IMO for a total of 1,342. News stations reported less daily yesterday than the IDPH did, so the daily case count is off even thought the total numbers do match. This has not happened in several weeks. Sept. 30: 1,048 new COVID-19 cases with 18 more deaths, 853 recoveries
Iowa COVID-19 Information
Local health officials talk changes to quarantine guidelines, school districts adjust
IDPH recommends following CDC Halloween guidelines, discourages traditional trick-or-treating

 

[margarita25]

Carriers of some genetic mutations more at risk of Covid-19 - ISRAEL21c

 

[tresir2012]

Are they getting tested as they are boarding the ship?
They would need to quarantine for 14 days at a designated facility and then be tested again since people get off the ship for excursions, etc.
JMO

I don't know what they are doing, but that is my guess.

Maybe they will be the cruises to nowhere, like the flights we heard about recently. Get on the ship travel around a bit and view the places from the boat only before heading back to the POE.

 

[tresir2012]

I just heard about this. Pennysylvania Governor being sued by several counties re Covid restrictions.

Judge: Groups suing Gov. Wolf over COVID-19 restrictions must respond by Monday to motion to stay

 

[margarita25]

HOUSTON METHODIST COVID-19 STUDY SHOWS RAPID SPREAD AND POTENTIAL FOR MUTANT VIRUSES
Infectious disease pathologists sequence more than 5,000 strains of SARS-CoV-2 gene
September 23, 2020

“Houston’s second wave hit significantly younger patients who had fewer underlying conditions and were more likely to be Hispanic/Latino living in lower income neighborhoods. In addition, virtually all COVID-19 strains studied during the second wave displayed a Gly614 amino acid replacement in spike protein – the part of the virus that mediates invasion into human cells, gives the coronavirus its telltale crown-like appearance and is the major focus of vaccine efforts worldwide. While this mutation has been linked with increased transmission and infectivity, as well as a higher virus load in the nasopharynx, which connects the nasal cavity with the throat, the mutation did not increase disease severity, researchers said.

The findings reinforce researchers’ concerns of the virus gaining momentum through naturally occurring mutations capable of producing mutant viruses that can escape vaccines – dubbed ‘escapians’ – or mutants that can resist drugs and other therapies.”

eta: not liking this “escapians” thing...

 

[margarita25]

I don't know what they are doing, but that is my guess.

Maybe they will be the cruises to nowhere, like the flights we heard about recently. Get on the ship travel around a bit and view the places from the boat only before heading back to the POE.

Now this reminds me of something I saw the other day, check this out (note some aren’t wearing masks):

 

[Trino]

Gonna need to stop using the phrase, "avoiding it like the plague." Apparently, humans don't avoid the plague.

 

[Trino]

Status of US scientists and pandemic.

Study 4 years for a degree.
Study 4 more for a PHD.
Join lab. Start working.
Spend years studying.
Form hypothesis. Gather evidence.
Test hypothesis. Form conclusions.
Report findings. Peer review.
Publish findings.
Internet: Not true. Hoax.

 

[mickey2942]

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It will be interesting to see what happens with the cruise line industry. I have no doubt that there is still a market for cruises. But, I am pretty sure that it will never be what it was.

 

[ilovewings]

It will be interesting to see what happens with the cruise line industry. I have no doubt that there is still a market for cruises. But, I am pretty sure that it will never be what it was.

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There is something really strange about a good deal of the citizenry of a country that fails to understand what a pandemic is: the NFL has now been affected with the Titans-Steeler game cancelled for Sunday because several Titan players have tested positive. Notre Dame Football has 18 players who tested positive after having dinner out somewhere- Schools opening, then closing: What is it that makes so many people continue to try and live normally during a pandemic? <modsnip>

Irish link virus outbreak to meal, vomiting player

 

[MimosaMornings]

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There is something really strange about a good deal of the citizenry of a country that fails to understand what a pandemic is: the NFL has now been affected with the Titans-Steeler game cancelled for Sunday because several Titan players have tested positive. Notre Dame Football has 18 players who tested positive after having dinner out somewhere- Schools opening, then closing: What is it that makes so many people continue to try and live normally during a pandemic? <modsnip>

Irish link virus outbreak to meal, vomiting player

They don’t believe there is a pandemic.

They don’t know anyone personally that has died.

Only old people get it. (Those that are dying of something anyway)

It’s a conspiracy to take away my freedom.

It’s like the flu.

No big deal say the young folks.
JMO

 

[Rocco]

They don’t believe there is a pandemic.

They don’t know anyone personally that has died.

Only old people get it. (Those that are dying of something anyway)

It’s a conspiracy to take away my freedom.

It’s like the flu.

No big deal say the young folks.
JMO

Say the young folks? Not everywhere.

UND's Student Senate voted last week to formally ask Grand Forks to implement a citywide mask policy that resembles the university's. City Council members on Monday, Sept. 28, voted not to consider that request.

Grand Forks stymies UND students’ request for citywide mask policy | Grand Forks Herald

ETA: Despite the fact North Dakota leads the nation in new cases per capita.
North Dakota leads the nation in new COVID-19 cases per capita, but what does that mean? | Grand Forks Herald