Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #82

[Amonet]

The number of people already infected by the mystery virus emerging in China is far greater than official figures suggest, scientists have told the BBC.
There have been 41 laboratory-confirmed cases of the new virus, but UK experts estimate the figure is closer to 1,700.

New virus in China ‘will have infected hundreds'

Up to 4,500 patients in China may have caught the same strain of coronavirus that has killed two people, scientists fear.
Health officials in Wuhan – the city at the heart of the outbreak which started in December – confirmed four new cases today, taking the total to 48.
But Imperial College London researchers say this may be the 'tip of the iceberg' after analysing flights out of the city.

Scientists fear up to 4,500 Chinese patients may have caught the new coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

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[Tricia]

Hey Everyone,

If you want to quote what the president or anyone in his administrations who give information on what they are doing to contain the virus that is absolutely fine.
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OK, not begging now.

I am so impressed with our members posting much-needed info and members helping each other. I swear I sit here and cry happy tears at how incredible you are with this pandemic.

Please join me tonight on Websleuths Live on YouTube at 10:00 PM Eastern. CLICK HERE to join us live. We have a great chat room going on. and I want to personally invite you all to join us. One main rule. If you a jerk in chat or if you start making inflammatory comments about politics or whatever you will be kicked out. Then you will be forced to listen to Donny Osmonds "Puppy Love" for 30 days. So please behave.
See you tonight.
Love,
Tricia
PS. I actually love Donny Osmond. Very talented, a great businessman and fantastic human being, but, Puppy Love is painful. LOL

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone,

This thread is for sharing information, not debating or bickering or winning an argument.

State your opinion, post your link to info, then move on without feeling the need to comment on every single detail of every single post. It takes over the thread and none of us are here to hammer our own opinion into the heads of other members.

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[Sillybilly]

Members should not take it upon themselves to decide that politics is allowed.

Until/unless Tricia, or a Mod or Admin gives approval to discuss any political aspect of this situation, the usual rules apply (no political snipes, debate talks, no election, ballots, Reps/Dems, Constitution, Pelosi, footballs, etc).

Discuss the President's health as it is presented via MSM or information from the WH or the President's medical personnel, and as it relates to his Covid diagnosis only. Let the rest unfold as it happens without dragging politics into this discussion.

Thread will reopen shortly.

 

[Trino]

Apparently some do not want contact tracing? Was the event legal? Seems as if some people are doing what they want to do despite it not being legal.

New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy said Monday that 184 of the 206 people who attended the fundraiser on October 1 at Trump National Golf Course in Bedminster have been contacted. Of the 206 attendees, Murphy said early numbers indicate about half were from New Jersey — and some attendees came as far away as Texas and Arizona.

At a press conference in Trenton, Murphy called the responses from attendees a "mixed bag," with some demanding to know how the state got their name. "The Republican National Committee, that's how we got your name," he said.

Murphy slammed the federal response, saying that New Jersey "is taking the lead on this, even for folks not from New Jersey." Murphy said state officials got the list of attendees from the Republican National Committee on Friday afternoon, and the state contacted the White House on Friday. He said he heard about Mr. Trump's positive diagnosis when he saw news reports when he woke up on Friday.

Murphy said the attorney general is investigating if the gathering violated the state's COVID-19 restrictions. He said early reports indicate that the event violated rules governing the amount of people allowed to be indoors and also food service rules, since buffets are not allowed.

Murphy wouldn't say specifically what action will be taken if the event was found in violation of the restrictions.

Live updates: Trump doctors clear discharge, but not "out of the woods yet"

 

[gitana1]

I’m sorry, America. It’s embarrassing. We went through it when Boris bragged about handshaking then caught Covid, but at least he had the humility to not just brush it off afterwards.

Still, Trump’s followers will do what they wish. Play stupid games; win stupid prizes.

And risk millions of innocent people in the process.

Essential workers are at the mercy of these aggressively ignorant and defiant people who stand feet from them, maskless, and often screaming if told to wear one. They are at the mercy of businesses who refuse to let them wear masks, like a restaurant in Texas not too long ago, and a sheriff of a department in Florida recently.

And what of the health care workers exposed to high viral load because they have to continually treat people who refused to follow safety and health protocols? They are at risk as well.

People are free to do what they want but when their freedom risks the safety of others, they need to think twice and be responsible. Like I said before, not wearing a mask in close proximity to others out in public, is like driving drunk.

 

[ilovewings]

We may have developed some really great drugs, but they are not all available to the general public.

Does Trump want to resume his airport maskless rallies? Please, no.

Dont count on it!!!!

 

[oviedo]

@oviedo want to make a bet it will be in our state... Florida?

Yep and our governor will welcome it
JMO

 

[GRT]

No White House contract tracing. Just wonderful (not).

Michael Shear, NY Times reporter:
"I have not been contacted by the White House," Shear said on CNN's "New Day" Monday morning. "Nobody from the White House has said 'boo' and asked anything about where I was or who I talked to or who else I might have infected."

New York Times reporter infected with Covid-19 says the White House is not doing contact tracing - CNN

The DC Health Department is responsible for contact tracing and they've reported being behind.

 

[MsArk]

It's infuriating but I knew this would happen from the moment I heard he was diagnosed.
His message is dangerous.

I knew it also. It is such a disgraceful thing to say to the families of the 200,000+ people who died. I just can’t listen anymore. Infuriating. IMO

 

[mickey2942]

Trump says he'll leave Walter Reed tonight


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!

This is so impossibly tone deaf to the millions of people who live in the United States, and do not have access to health care. Do not have insurance coverage, sick leave, or the medical team at Walter Reed, with access to all treatments that most Americans have not been offered.

Except, the wealthiest ones.

 

[LaborDayRN]

I knew it also. It is such a disgraceful thing to say to the families of the 200,000+ people who died. I just can’t listen anymore. Infuriating. IMO

Agreed.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

And risk millions of innocent people in the process.

Essential workers are at the mercy of these aggressively ignorant and defiant people who stand feet form them, maskless, and often screaming if told to wear one. They are at the mercy of businesses who refuse to let them wear masks, like a restaurant in Texas not too long ago, and a sheriff of a department in Florida recently.

And what of the health care workers exposed to high viral load because they have to continually treat people who refused to follow safety and health protocols? They are at risk as well.

People are free to do what they want but when their freedom risks the safety of others, they need to think twice and be responsible. Like I said before, not wearing a mask in close proximity to others out in public, is like driving drunk.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Unfortunately, those that never wanted to take notice, now have carte blanche to carry on being selfish and ignorant to the needs of society, because of the president’s words and actions.

The warmest of hugs being sent across the pond to all those who want one right now. We are all weathering this horrible storm together.

 

[gitana1]

I don't fear the virus and it doesn't dominate my life no matter what the President say's or does.

I've come to that conclusion on my own. I just happen to agree with the statements that the President has made.

You agree that mask wearing is unnecessary? You think it's okay to hang out with a bunch of people, shaking hands, whispering in each other's ears hugging, all while mask-less?

Yes, that's probably the dexamethasone talking. I do wonder how long he'll be on it or whether he'll go off it once he leaves the hospital (probably not). But eventually, of course he will, due to side effects.

He may not feel so chipper at that point in time. Steroids really can aid in suppressing pain and inflammation - something that many of us would like to have, but as everyone should know, longterm steroid use is only for serious conditions and even then, people often have to take breaks from it. That can be accompanied by mood changes. "This medicine may cause changes in mood or behavior for some patients. Tell your doctor right away if you have depression, mood swings, a false or unusual sense of well-being, trouble sleeping, or personality changes while taking this medicine."

Dexamethasone (Oral Route) Side Effects - Mayo Clinic.

Not saying he has such a situation - but the longer a person takes it, the more likely it is to get this common side effect. It's more common in the elderly (all the side effects of steroids are more common in the elderly). I would assume that since he didn't have an over-reaction from his immune system that he's no longer on them, though,

Meh. I take and have taken a similar medications and much more powerful on numerous occasions. Some for long periods.

He likely only took it to prevent inflammation from taking hold and won't take it for long.

 

[drama_farmer]

This is so impossibly tone deaf to the millions of people who live in the United States, and do not have access to health care. Do not have insurance coverage, sick leave, or the medical team at Walter Reed, with access to all treatments that most Americans have not been offered.

Except, the wealthiest ones.

Talk about a dystopian irony: the superspreader event (allegedly) at the Rose Garden was to celebrate a nominee who is expected (imo) to vote to overturn the Affordable Care Act.

 

[RANCH]

You agree that mask wearing is unnecessary? You think it's okay to hang out with a bunch of people, shaking hands, whispering in each other's ears hugging, all while mask-less?



Meh. I take and have taken a similar medications and much more powerful on numerous occasions. Some for long periods.

He likely only took it to prevent inflammation from taking hold and won't take it for long.

Please don't say things like that. Totally unfair.

Just because I don't share the disdain that many here have for President Trump doesn't mean I should be ridiculed.

 

[gitana1]

I knew it also. It is such a disgraceful thing to say to the families of the 200,000+ people who died. I just can’t listen anymore. Infuriating. IMO

It's so disappointing. Almost sociopathic, IMO. Let them eat cake, right?

 

[neesaki]

Yes but I mean it's not that hard for a leader to refrain from publishing any comment that they feel like making at a given moment. I refrain quite a bit on my social media. And I'm a nobody. And some of these detrimental statements we have seen were right in public, out of his mouth, like mocking Biden for wearing a mask.

Ikwym, and agree. I personally don’t do social media at all.