Could Encrypted Messages on Josh Powell's Computer Lead to Susan Cox Powell?

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  1. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Administrator

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    You have to give this to Josh Powell. He knew how to encrypt his information on his computer, and he did this back in 2009.

    According to the latest news, experts have not yet been able to decipher Josh's computer encryption but, they have cracked some of his code. Investigators are very optimistic that when everything is deciphered, it will reveal important information about Susan.

    More from Fox 13 local news

    Let's hope they are right!

    Picture courtesy of the Susan Cox Powell Foundation
     

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  3. LadyL

    LadyL New Member

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    but why would he put any info on his computer, even encrypted, about his crime?

    I know, why do criminals do anything right?

    but just wondering what his motive would be
     
  4. TweekTweak

    TweekTweak New Member

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    If not related to Susan's disappearance, my money is on some depraved porn. Most likely involving children.
     
  5. PaulR

    PaulR Verified Software and Computer Tech

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    I don't know if they have released how he used TrueCrypt. Most hard drive encryption software is easiest to set up when you want to encrypt your entire hard drive (so all the data on your computer), not just specific files.

    Whole-drive encryption isn't especially rare; many employers require laptop hard drives to be encrypted so a thief won't have access to confidential data. You may not even be aware of it. Windows has had some form of built-in encryption available since Windows XP/2000.

    As an aside, it is not a bad idea to think about enabling this. If you do personal finance work on your computer - taxes, home banking, etc. - a thief with an unencrypted hard drive may be able to use the data to impersonate you and clean out bank accounts, or commit other forms of identity theft.
     
  6. UKGuy

    UKGuy Active Member

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    PaulR,
    Hope your first name is not Ron? Nearly all software is backdoored, you get the drift, that includes TC, there is next to nothing online that cannot be deciphered.

    Open source works two ways, e.g. you can use it to your own ends, whilst claiming its Open Source, e.g. the binary running on your PC need not be the same as the binary running on a Russian machine, but they can both claim to be Open Source, really?



    SPOILER ALERT

    Do Not Bother With Encryption its like a red flag to LEA, they already have all the algorithms available to crack whatever you dream up.

    What Do I Do : Nothing, like do not record it electronically, think Dread Pirate Roberts, where is he located now? Some USofA Penitentiary, with a Life Sentence and he was the kingpin behind the Silk Road website !


    Whole drive encryption, you are having a laugh, surely and who does all this encryption and decryption, like Uncle Microsoft has decided wow we must have encryption as a feature, even although it was made illegal as a munitions export years ago?


    Get a life Bill Gates is not one of the richest and most imtelligent guys on the planet because he thinks people must have encryption, there is other stuff going on and only the LEA types know it!


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  7. PaulR

    PaulR Verified Software and Computer Tech

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    If there is a back door to TrueCrypt, the audit didn't find it. That doesn't mean it cannot be deciphered, but it would require a strict brute force attack (which seems to be the case here, since they're asking to use resources from cloud computing companies.)

    Encryption is not a "red flag" to law enforcement. Law enforcement and government uses encryption. Some private sector information is all but required to be encrypted; see the standards of HIPAA, PII, etc.

    If having an encrypted device was a red flag, then anyone with an iPhone or modern Android would be in trouble since they are encrypted by default. Not to mention everyone with a home wifi network.

    As far as "encryptions as munitions", you should look up Executive Order 13026 which President Clinton signed back in 1999. I think the main restrictions left are to terrorist groups/rogue states/etc. but then we aren't selling them much anyway.
     
  8. Laughing

    Laughing New Member

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    Hhhmmm, this might be a second thread, same topic. Off to look....
     
  9. Oregonmama

    Oregonmama Active Member

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    Mark Sievers in another case had a special code in his diary online for entries. Psychopaths are psychopaths and will fight until the very end .
     
  10. LietKynes

    LietKynes Active Member

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    Hoping for some closure for her family !!!
    What a heartbreaking case. :(
     
  11. Barb Wire

    Barb Wire New Member

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    <snip> Didn't Josh Powell`s father -- that he was having an affair with Susan Powell, we obtain the father-in-law`s private journals. Tonight, police release part two, revealing his twisted sex obsession with his own daughter-in-law, Susan, the diaries complete with undercover photos of Susan, some of them so graphic,

    <snip> Did the sex-obsessed father-in-law mastermind Susan`s death and the murders of her two little boys? He`s only behind bars for a few more months before he`s released, on another charge. Are police on the move? Will there be charges against Josh Powell`s father-in-law?

    <snip> Live to Salt Lake City, the mystery surrounding the disappearance of a young stockbroker, a mother of two, Susan Cox Powell. After bizarre and outrageous claims by her father-in-law that he was having a torrid affair with her, we get our mitts on his private journals. This is really round two released by police, these private journals that reveal his twisted and sick obsession with his own daughter- in-law, Susan Powell, now missing.


    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1208/21/ng.01.html
    NANCY GRACE
    Is this all true Or am I lost :thinking:
     
  12. abeaman02

    abeaman02 All things are possible with coffee and mascara

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    I think it will be about some type of secret that he himself had or researching ways to dispose of a body. I don't think he will be describing the murder himself but just something about what he was thinking or doing
     
  13. savagewatch

    savagewatch New Member

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    I hope they find her. As far as Josh goes, I hope he's very unhappy where he should be now.
     
  14. dgfred

    dgfred Active Member

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    and very hot.
     
  15. LietKynes

    LietKynes Active Member

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    Sure... Susan was 'having an affair' with her father-in-law. Riiighht.
    Only in his 'toilet' of a mind !!

    At the very least -- he freaked her out.
    And I think she feared him.
     
  16. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    Found this link below that explains about standard encryption which most people with newer PCs probably dont even realize that by using a Microsoft Account ID to log into their PC they are already getting hard drive encryption by default on newer PCs. Its why Microsoft began requiring us to use a microsoft account ID to log onto our PCs. Its because it allowed them to backup our encryption key in case we ever forgot our PC password it then allows us to work with them to get a new ID which automatically sends the encryption key to our machines so we can get to our encrypted data.

    Its really not as hard as it seems. The link explains it some. What it basically does is encrypts your data and you dont even know it and as you go to access your machine it uses the encryption KEY to un-encrypt the data and give it to you for access. So you really dont even know its happening.

    Why we need it is so if someone steals our laptop then they cannot get to our files without knowing our Microsoft Account ID which then accesses their server to pull up the encryption key. If you lose your PC then nobody can really ever see your data on an encrypted machine.

    The link below explains how you can see if your machine is using encryption or not.

    Back when JP was around he likely had too old a machine for auto encyption and so he likely had to take some action with some 3rd party software to enable encryption so it does mean he likely went out of his way to encrypt some data and thus it means he wanted to keep some data protected from eyes of others. Its anybodys guess as to what he may have been trying to hide.

    I hope LE can break the encryption to see what he was hiding.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/173592/wi...rives-by-default-everything-you-need-to-know/
     
  17. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    By the way if people remember the recent Ransomware virus attacks like "Wannacry" or other varients then its interesting to learn about how they work. They are real nasty and some of the real worms and malware actually do encrypt peoples data on their machine and the problem is you need an encryption KEY to de-encrypt all your files and you dont have one because the ransomware virus is the one that encrypted your files.

    These types of viruses is what really made us realize we have to backup everything important on our machines so that if you ever get one of the real nasty viruses like this then a lot of times the only recourse is to reset your hard drive and re-install windows all over again losing any data you once had.

    Its always good to have backup data somewhere or have a good backup recovery application you can use if that ever happens. I like using external hard drives for my backup purposes. That way if I ever need my old data I can just plug in the hard drive into any machine to get it.

    A couple CNN Money links below that explains about ransomware. I found it quite interesting and scary what they can do.

    From first link below:
    "Once users click on the link or attachment, the ransomware encrypts the computer's hard drive, locking people out of computer files, including photos and music libraries."

    [video]http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/15/technology/ransomware-wannacry-explainer/index.html?iid=EL[/video]

    [video]http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/24/technology/bad-rabbit-ransomware-attack/index.html[/video]
     
  18. cocomod

    cocomod Active Member

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    I am wondering if they are putting this information out there hoping for someone to come forward with knowledge that can help them. There are usually civilians that can do amazing things with computers even if they don't work for the bigger companies.

    I work for a computer company, and we have some amazing folks here with grand knowledge. In a conversation a month or so ago, one of the tech gurus mentioned an article he had read that he found interesting. A few large companies found it useful to put out in cyberspace "projects". If they had a problem that needed solving, and their internal team told them it would take 4 months and tons of manhours to solve, they would list the problem asking for help. Many times, a college student or a home based computer guru would come up with a solution that took maybe a week to solve the same problem. He said it was a brilliant way for companies to cut overhead.

    I think it would be fantastic for LE to possibly accept help from someone that may not be with the bigger companies. Someone that is fresh and brilliant in encryptions. They may be able to crack it! Obviously Josh Powell was smart enough to set it up on his own. I personally believe that there are people smarter than him that could crack it and get the information out.
     
  19. MelmothTheLost

    MelmothTheLost New Member

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    And to identify people worth employing, presumably.
     
  20. Carolina Girl

    Carolina Girl New Member

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    Why did he do it? I just wish they could find her remains.
     
  21. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    Yes I'm curious to see if he only encrypted some files or if it was the entire drive.
    I really cannot see it leading to anything useful though.
    What would be helpful are any searches about locations at the time.
    Unless he wrote a sort of "book" like OJ's.... and encrypted that?
    I think odds are pretty slim to none however.
     

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