Crimes Involving Animals

Discussion in 'Luka Rocco Magnotta AKA Eric Newman' started by No_Stone_Unturned, Jun 24, 2012.

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  1. Fairy

    Fairy New Member

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    I found an evidence picture of the deceased puppy and it appeared to have some material tied around it's neck. I was wondering if it was possibly asphyxiated. It was barely mentioned during the trial. It's surprising they have no cause of death for the poor little thing.

    WARNING! GRAPHIC AND VERY UPSETTING IMAGE IN LINK.
    EVIDENCE PICTURE OF DECEASED PUPPY:

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/cms/binary/10250135.jpg?size=640x420

    Members of the animal groups who were chasing him for over a year would have made good witnesses at the trial.
     


  2. Rayemonde

    Rayemonde Well-Known Member

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    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
    After the murder, #magnotta stayed up for at least 24 hours. He drowned his puppy because something was controlling him

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 52s52 seconds ago
    #Magnotta had bought a little dog.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Killed his dog: "weird energy" that made him drown dog.Was going to bring dog to France but he was leaving quicker than planned. #Magnotta

    Maybe the puppy was a secret government agent too? :gaah:
     
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    http://www.torontosun.com/2014/11/1...-15-months-before-killing-jun-lin-trial-hears

     
  4. Fairy

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    TBH, I'm surprised he didn't film and upload the murder of the puppy. Or at least boast about it in third person in his final postings.

    So the woman from the video may be the "Rebecca" mentioned here http://www.cjad.com/cjad-news/2014/11/11/magnotta-killed-cats-made-up-rumour-he-dated-karla-homolka:

    Not sure if "Manny" told him to kill these cats too.

    LM seemed quite capable of hiding from the animal groups, then fleeing the country and attempting to start a new life with fake IDs after the murder of JL. It's a shame he didn't just put the same efforts towards getting away from this "Manny" character.
     
  5. Rayemonde

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    snake boy crop-horz.jpg

    Do you guys think this could be the same person? On the left, someone LM was apparently with around the time of the snake incident in 2011 (which is NOT to say that they were involved in the cruelty or even knew anything about it). On the right, a guy I found online who keeps snakes including one that looks like the one in the video (which is a common type of snake to keep, lots of people have them). Picture on right dated 2010.
     
  6. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    :thumb: Yes !

    The ear looks pretty much the same shape/size.
    Eyebrows, nose, mouth as well as overall shape of face, are all very close.
    Considering pic. quality I'd have to lean towards it being the same guy.

    Well Done Rayemonde :sleuth: :goldstar:
     
  7. Rayemonde

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    Well, he lives in Illinois, but I can't find anything at all linking him to LM so it may just be a coincidence that he looks like the guy in the picture.

    I don't even know that the guy in the picture was really with LM around the time of the snake feeding incident except that his picture is on this site that i'm pretty sure LM set up - don't worry, non-graphic link:

    http://luka-magnotta-python-snake-evil.blogspot.com/

    There's a pic of LM with a girl on there too - could she be the girl from the video? But then there are several pictures of LM with Neider Eid too, which I think were taken years before the snake incident and I think LM just put them there to try and get NE in trouble. He seems to have hated him for years, he even posted a ripoff report about him on the day of JL's murder.

    So these pictures of people with LM could really have been taken at any time, and he could have just put them on the snake site to confuse people.
     
  8. STANDREID

    STANDREID A slacker when slacker wasn't cool

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    When I first saw this thread, I thought it was about cases where animals were used as aids to crime, like getaway horses, or crimes where animals were actually used as murder weapons but I guess I was wrong.

    It is an interesting topic though. I believe that some claim that the Beast of Gevaudan in 1760s France was actually a hyena that had been trained to kill humans by some unknown person. There was also Juana Bormann who, as mistress of a pack German shepherds, used the dogs to murder inmates in various Nazi concentration camps. She was hanged for crimes against humanity in December of 1945.
     
  9. Rayemonde

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    Haha Stanreid :p This thread is in the Luka Magnotta forum, and it's about LM's crimes towards animals. Before he murdered and dismembered a human being, he liked to kill kittens.
     
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    LiveLeak.com - Python and 2 sickos.flv - YouTube.png

    Baseboard heater in snake video.
     
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    I want a getaway horse! I want one now!


    I've been doing a LOT of research on sadistic serial/child killers lately, and it's startling how many have a very early history of animal abuse -- not just small acts of cruelty either, the really horrific stuff. That sort of cruelty is a definite precursor to human victims.

    Gotta wonder how old Magnotta was, when he started with the animals..
     
  13. Rayemonde

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    I've found a few snakes in the right area, but most of their keepers have a lot of reptiles in a dedicated room of their house and seem like responsible people.
    Note the heater, like the one in the video.
    PARKERS PYTHONS new brunswick 2008 2.jpg
     
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    https://www.scribd.com/doc/246900421/Psychiatric-assessment-of-Magnotta
     
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    https://www.scribd.com/doc/246900421/Psychiatric-assessment-of-Magnotta
     
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