CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #66

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Sorry....off on a little tangent. I was wondering why we didn't hear where MT and Nicole were planning to go on May 25, since they still weren't allowed to be with the FD children without a supervisor. On May 25, MT was getting her hair done....FD was showing a house.

There was a text message from Dennis Puebla to Fotis presented in trial, but I can't find it. I believe it said...I'm using my memory...something like, "Have you spoken/okayed plans with Jennifer for this coming weekend?"

I would like to check the date and the time, and the content of the text message. Does anyone know where this appeared in the trial?
TIA...
From L&C feed Day 26 during Realtor testimony approx 5:57 mark:
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From L&C feed Day 26 during Realtor testimony approx 5:57 mark:
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Interesting. And I am not great on the timeline…… But looking at that text there at 10 12 5/24/2019 (which I think means 10:12 am….. is that EST (Eastern Standard time?) and neither ‘estimated’ nor UTC time….. as that is some cell/tower identifier IIRC?)

Sure have to wonder if that was perhaps a message also prearranged by FD with the sender? Or am I way overthinking this or simply confused? The timing just seems quite interesting in light of the message in it? MOO

And maybe others have also already wondered on that too, and I am far behind in catching up. Apologies if so. IMO
 
Did anyone listening to the Petu testimony yesterday understand her 'trip' with many details via UBER from Hartford area to Boston Logan for what seemed to be a trip with a final destination of London?

Any locals know how commonly folks would use Logan (115 miles away) vs Hartford (15 miles away) and then get there via UBER?

Has anyone ever taken a car service and had their driver STOP to put oil in the car?

When was the last time anyone here has arrived for an international flight with 1.5 hrs to spare and gotten on the flight at a major city large airport?

Can anyone make sense of the Petu story as imo it simply reminded me of the 8+ hrs of MT LE Interviews with alot of detail thrown in.

Curious what folks think as this story is giving me flashbacks to the MT LE Interviews for some odd reason.....

MOO
Overall, I didn't find Petu's testimony credible. She has evidence to clear MT but refuses to share it, even now when she has the opportunity? And as someone else pointed out, she doesn't want to be interviewed in english but is fine with English in Court even on Cross??? What kind of logic was she selling? I thought her statement to the press was simply bizarre.

However, regarding the 1.5 airport arrival time I didn't flinch. I used to routinely only plan for an hour arrival buffer flying LAX to Heathrow (and back) routinely with no issue for years. Also flew LAX to Newark or Logan with same 1hr buffer without issue for years. It should be noted that I would be traveling Business Class with Freq Flyer status which usually provided shorter line opportunities. Agree with others, would have not taken a local flight to logan, quicker to drive the hassle of airport security, etc. Long uber ride is just weird as apposed to car/limo service.

Loved your youtube visual of the car shuffle. I hope the prosecution uses lots of nice visual aids in their closing.
 
Interesting. And I am not great on the timeline…… But looking at that text there at 10 12 5/24/2019 (which I think means 10:12 am….. is that EST (Eastern Standard time?) and neither ‘estimated’ nor UTC time….. as that is some cell/tower identifier IIRC?)

Sure have to wonder if that was perhaps a message also prearranged by FD with the sender? Or am I way overthinking this or simply confused? The timing just seems quite interesting in light of the message in it? MOO

And maybe others have also already wondered on that too, and I am far behind in catching up. Apologies if so. IMO
My understanding is the time is adjusted to local (Conn) time which is UTC-4 which is Eastern Std Time adj for daylight savings or EDT.

I think its just a coincidence. I think he was supposed to have a scheduled visitation on Saturday. Maybe he was trying to spread the "every thing is going great" story by saying that maybe Jennifer was going to allow him visitation thru Sun or Mon too since it was a 3 day weekend. This obviously wasn't going to happen.
 
Interesting. And I am not great on the timeline…… But looking at that text there at 10 12 5/24/2019 (which I think means 10:12 am….. is that EST (Eastern Standard time?) and neither ‘estimated’ nor UTC time….. as that is some cell/tower identifier IIRC?)

Sure have to wonder if that was perhaps a message also prearranged by FD with the sender? Or am I way overthinking this or simply confused? The timing just seems quite interesting in light of the message in it? MOO

And maybe others have also already wondered on that too, and I am far behind in catching up. Apologies if so. IMO
There might actually be a HUGE clue there.

FD had indicated he'd be having the kids more, and aware of the contentious divorce, perhaps HH assumed that was because JFd was allowing it. His text could have been an ask for a headcount, whether they'd be there the next day.

It's just gross to think just how FD was going about working things out with Jennifer. At the very time HH was texting that message, FD was up to his shaved head in bloody paper towels.

"Working things out with Jennifer"? You don't bring zip ties to a conversation.

jmo
 
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My understanding is the time is adjusted to local (Conn) time which is UTC-4 which is Eastern Std Time adj for daylight savings or EDT.

I think its just a coincidence. I think he was supposed to have a scheduled visitation on Saturday. Maybe he was trying to spread the "every thing is going great" story by saying that maybe Jennifer was going to allow him visitation thru Sun or Mon too since it was a 3 day weekend. This obviously wasn't going to happen.
The creepiest thing about this is that text from Puebla about visitation came in just as FD was loading the body and bags into JFDs Suburban down in NC. He was seen leaving Welles at 10:25am. If Puebla had only known what he was up to at that moment….

As for the content, I think Puebla was inquiring if FD had fixed/confirmed the time on Saturday with JFD, or if FD and JFD were still in discussion about the date/time of the visit. (I do not think the comment “still working things out with Jennifer” was in reference to their relationship in general, only the specifics for the visit that weekend).
And since the supervised visitation was a court order, I don’t think JFD could just let FD have the kids the whole weekend (that would be a very expensive supervision at $150/hour!)

MOO.
 
There might actually be a HUGE clue there.

FD had indicated he'd be having the kids more, and aware of the contentious divorce, perhaps HH assumed that was because JFd was allowing it. His text could have been an ask for a headcount, whether they'd be there the next day.

It's just gross to think just how FD was going about working things out with Jennifer. At the very time HH was texting that message, FD was up to his shaved head in bloody towers.

"Working things out with Jennifer"? You don't bring zip ties to a conversation.

jmo
Quoting myself because an astute fellow sleuther brought this to my attention.

I goofed.

Later in this same log, there were two (iirc) entries from HH. From memory, something like, "no phone, text me". That was pond guy.

At 10:12, FD received that text about working things out with Jennifer. From. DennisPuebla. Who was the visitation supervisor.

Which makes it even worse.

Here's someone whose job was to oversee visitation .... for the purposes of safety and well-being. Assuming FD would be motivated to cooperate and comply....

Instead FD was washing his hands of the whole thing. At JFd's sink.

Revolting.

JMO
 
The creepiest thing about this is that text from Puebla about visitation came in just as FD was loading the body and bags into JFDs Suburban down in NC. He was seen leaving Welles at 10:25am. If Puebla had only known what he was up to at that moment….

As for the content, I think Puebla was inquiring if FD had fixed/confirmed the time on Saturday with JFD, or if FD and JFD were still in discussion about the date/time of the visit. (I do not think the comment “still working things out with Jennifer” was in reference to their relationship in general, only the specifics for the visit that weekend).
And since the supervised visitation was a court order, I don’t think JFD could just let FD have the kids the whole weekend (that would be a very expensive supervision at $150/hour!)

MOO.
You nailed it. At the very same time I was correcting my mistake.

You're spot on. ITA that DP was asking about plans for the next supervised visit. Working things out with Jennifer for Saturday.

The timing of that text is eerie.

jmo
 
The jury should not discuss the case and should not be informed (or misinformed) by the media. But the strategies of the media did enter the trial, in the hands of the defense. The time dedicated to non-essential topics nor directly related to murder and complicity, fake news, lack of respect for authorities and rules, the inclusion of a vision that is sometimes naive, sometimes grotesquely happy and without commitment, of the way of life of the murderer and the accused, and some of their witness friends, have flooded the senses of the attendees and the jury, thanks to the defense plan. Even the defense 'specialists' contributed their ideas on communication, whether due to memory problems or bilingualism, to further distract the heads and thoughts of those who must issue their conclusion.

At the same time, the prosecution moved forward building the story of what happened, with an exceptionally broad and organized investigative effort, within what they could find, and with some of the agents, specialists and scientists, plus Jennifer's nanny and mother, among others, reporting as witnesses.

What will the jury do with all this?
I think once all of the jurors sit down together and review the testimony and evidence presented in the case, all of the other BS will be forgotten and they’ll find MT guilty as charged.
 
Yeah. "In my mind, my moral friends got lucky and Jennifer just disappeared without their help."

I don't question Petu's loyalty to Michelle. Only a very good friend would make such an absurd declaration. I doubt Michelle mentioned the conspiracy to Petu; I imagine the most Michelle shared was homocidal fantasies. But while Petu may have put together information after the fact that was inculpating, I can't think of anything she'd have learned after the fact that would be exculpating. Except a sympathetic confession.

And, of course, that ship has sailed. Michelle burned down the whole port.

As I have said many times, Michelle's best defense was probably the truth with an explanation. She had the advantage of unspeakably evil co conspirators, and the negotiating power of her testimony against them. If Petu has information that Michelle is "innocent," it is that Michelle's crazy, abusive, serial cheater boyfriend couldn't be harnessed and Michelle got "caught up." That is not innocence, of course. But, it could have bought Michelle some mercy and Petu probably should have said that like 700 days earlier, to support Bowman in obtaining the best possible legal outcome. She's a good friend, but she didn't do the best thing she could have done for her friend.

MOO

After hearing the testimony, I agree that Michelle should have fallen on her sword early, by seeking mercy from the court, and squealed on her co-conspirators for the sake of doing the right thing, especially since, according to Petu, she was planning to move to Colorado.

MT thought she was lucky to catch an early break in JAN by the Judge ruling not to allow the State to use her phone's data in court. She saw JS as a hero, then and again, in APR, when he argued successfully to have her ankle monitoring removed. She broke a few times in court because her crimes may be causing her to become incarcerated next week but she has faith in JS's abilities. She played the part of being his legal assistant in court until they took her laptop away.

She's a double-dealer who deceives by saying one thing but doing another. "I was in the shower with Fotis." "I didn't clean Jennifer." Five children are without their mother and father because of her. To forgive the watershed will be a while.

I find her to be mean-spirited, capable of evil and especially cruel to risk her young child's reputation and happiness for her own greed and gratification. How else could she have happily, not forced, not coerced, but to have willingly performed all of the many clever things that it took to accomplish destroying the life of Jennifer Farber?

MOO
 
Before witnessing the trial, I had limited knowledge about the case and no information about MT or the horn crew. Until last week, I believed she might be found guilty of evidence tampering, but I just couldn't see the elements of a conspiracy to commit murder.

My perspective completely shifted when the phone evidence was presented. Observing the deliberate actions of turning the phone on and off, its movement, and the phone call she answered in between all the missed calls and messages convinced me that she was fully aware of what transpired with Jennifer that morning and was part of the plan.

If I were on the jury, I would unequivocally vote to convict her of conspiracy to commit murder and evidence tampering.
 
Hi, I am a newbie, sorry, everyone's got to do it, I have been following this case because I live in West Hartford which borders Avon, Farmington, and North Hartford. First the really stupid question-what does MOO stand for.
And second, what is suppose to have been done with Jennifer's body. Dump the pieces of it in the trash cans on Albany Ave? If so, (foi) Albany Avenue is the center of what used to be called, pardon me, the ghetto. There is a police substation, there are cameras everywhere, cops everywhere, and drug dealers every corner or so that might get in your business if you look like a rich white guy like FD. This is the most policed area in the city of Hartford and the streets off of it are its most violent parts. If I may, it is a war zone. You would have to be totally insane to wonder around there throwing bloody parcels in into the trash
 
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Okay - i have seen 6 counts of charges mentioned - but i only have 5 - what is the sixth one? If anyone knows?

Count 1:
*Charged (9/5/19) & arraigned (10/4/19) with tampering with evidence involving the borrowed car from work colleague. Plead not guilty. $100K bond. Posted bond (on 9/5/19). Off GPS 4/6/23. Stamford Norwalk #FST-CR-19-0167364-T DOB 9/26/74

Count 2:
*Charged (1/7/20) with conspiracy to commit murder. Plead not guilty. $2M bond. Bond reduced (1/8/20) to $1.5M & bonded out (on 1/9/20). Off GPS 4/6/23. Stamford-Norwalk JD Courthouse #FST-CR20-0241178-T DOB 9/26/74

Count 3, 4 & 6:
*Charged (8/28/20) with 2nd degree hindering prosecution, tampering with physical evidence & conspiracy to commit tampering with physical evidence. No plea entered yet. $500K bond. Posted bond. Off GPS 4/6/23. Stamford-Norwalk #FST-CR19-0148553-T
 
Okay - i have seen 6 counts of charges mentioned - but i only have 5 - what is the sixth one? If anyone knows?

Count 1:
*Charged (9/5/19) & arraigned (10/4/19) with tampering with evidence involving the borrowed car from work colleague. Plead not guilty. $100K bond. Posted bond (on 9/5/19). Off GPS 4/6/23. Stamford Norwalk #FST-CR-19-0167364-T DOB 9/26/74

Count 2:
*Charged (1/7/20) with conspiracy to commit murder. Plead not guilty. $2M bond. Bond reduced (1/8/20) to $1.5M & bonded out (on 1/9/20). Off GPS 4/6/23. Stamford-Norwalk JD Courthouse #FST-CR20-0241178-T DOB 9/26/74

Count 3, 4 & 6:
*Charged (8/28/20) with 2nd degree hindering prosecution, tampering with physical evidence & conspiracy to commit tampering with physical evidence. No plea entered yet. $500K bond. Posted bond. Off GPS 4/6/23. Stamford-Norwalk #FST-CR19-0148553-T
She has four tampering charges. Two tampering and two conspiracy to commit tampering.


* Conspiracy to commit murder
* Conspiracy to commit tampering with physical evidence – In connection to May 24, 2019
* Tampering with physical evidence – In connection to May 24, 2019
* Conspiracy to commit tampering with physical evidence – In connection to May 29, 2019
* Tampering with physical evidence – In connection to May 29, 2019
* Hindering prosecution


 
She has four tampering charges. Two tampering and two conspiracy to commit tampering.


* Conspiracy to commit murder
* Conspiracy to commit tampering with physical evidence – In connection to May 24, 2019
* Tampering with physical evidence – In connection to May 24, 2019
* Conspiracy to commit tampering with physical evidence – In connection to May 29, 2019
* Tampering with physical evidence – In connection to May 29, 2019
* Hindering prosecution



thanks! :)
 
Interesting. And I am not great on the timeline…… But looking at that text there at 10 12 5/24/2019 (which I think means 10:12 am….. is that EST (Eastern Standard time?) and neither ‘estimated’ nor UTC time….. as that is some cell/tower identifier IIRC?)

Sure have to wonder if that was perhaps a message also prearranged by FD with the sender? Or am I way overthinking this or simply confused? The timing just seems quite interesting in light of the message in it? MOO

And maybe others have also already wondered on that too, and I am far behind in catching up. Apologies if so. IMO


I hadn't noticed it; I listened to the realtor, but only glanced at the screen for this part of the trial.

Wow; it seems a bit like a "Ho'w's the kidnapping/murder going, bud?" Inquiry!

Maybe the sender didn't know working things out was going to be in person in New Canaan. Or he didn't know it was to be more than a talk.

And wasn't called by the prosecution because he artfully was not a Perry mason piece of evidence, and wasn't called by the defense b cause the defense theory has not been Michelle didn't know THAT was what Fotis had in mind while Michelle took care of his phone in Farmington.

But, like most defense witnesses, this one almost seemed to do more for the prosecution than the defense. First, she confirmed Fotis was unreachable until 1:30 on the murder day.

Then, there is this macabre-in-appearance given the timing text. Neither smoking hot guns, but...they don't contradict the prosecution at all. They bolster the prosecution's theory.

Sometimes, I think the defense would have done better to only have one lawyer sitting at the table, pretend it was bare bones. Call no witnesses. And put their entire defense on in closing arguments.

MOO
 
Hi, I am a newbie, sorry, everyone's got to do it, I have been following this case because I live in West Hartford which borders Avon, Farmington, and North Hartford. First the really stupid question-what does MOO stand for.
And second, what is suppose to have been done with Jennifer's body. Dump the pieces of it in the trash cans on Albany Ave? If so, (foi) Albany Avenue is the center of what used to be called, pardon me, the ghetto. There is a police substation, there are cameras everywhere, cops everywhere, and drug dealers every corner or so that might get in your business if you look like a rich white guy like FD. This is the most policed area in the city of Hartford and the streets off of it are its most violent parts. If I may, it is a war zone. You would have to be totally insane to wonder around there throwing bloody parcels in into the trash
MOO JMO MO IMO: all in my opinion
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Thank you for the summary of Albany Avenue and for pointing out that is is heavily watched
 
Before witnessing the trial, I had limited knowledge about the case and no information about MT or the horn crew. Until last week, I believed she might be found guilty of evidence tampering, but I just couldn't see the elements of a conspiracy to commit murder.

My perspective completely shifted when the phone evidence was presented. Observing the deliberate actions of turning the phone on and off, its movement, and the phone call she answered in between all the missed calls and messages convinced me that she was fully aware of what transpired with Jennifer that morning and was part of the plan.

If I were on the jury, I would unequivocally vote to convict her of conspiracy to commit murder and evidence tampering.
100% agree
Once you agree that MT has that phone, and is carrying it around the house. Leaving it home during drive to school. Picking it up when she gets home.
You have to agree that she knew that a crime was being committed for which FD needed an alibi and that she was the agreed and planned alibi.
(Add to that fact that she is 100% chill that she wakes up and he’s not there, no message, no note, doesn’t notice car is gone. Like do I lock the house when I drive to school with child? Or not? )
 
Hi, I am a newbie, sorry, everyone's got to do it, I have been following this case because I live in West Hartford which borders Avon, Farmington, and North Hartford. First the really stupid question-what does MOO stand for.
And second, what is suppose to have been done with Jennifer's body. Dump the pieces of it in the trash cans on Albany Ave? If so, (foi) Albany Avenue is the center of what used to be called, pardon me, the ghetto. There is a police substation, there are cameras everywhere, cops everywhere, and drug dealers every corner or so that might get in your business if you look like a rich white guy like FD. This is the most policed area in the city of Hartford and the streets off of it are its most violent parts. If I may, it is a war zone. You would have to be totally insane to wonder around there throwing bloody parcels in into the trash
I'm not in agreement with your characterization of the trash dumping area as a ghetto or war zone- with the many restaurants and residences-it's a vibrant area where people live, eat and work. They are not insane to be there. They are humans living their lives.

Some homeless characters like "Fudge" come in in this neighborhood, but have some empathy, not fear. Homeless people are wildly more likely to have recently been the victim of a violent crime than housed people; one reason for homelessness is a decision not to supplement income with criminal proceeds. Recycling and garbage picking doesn't pay rent.

Still, all of your points are well taken about the cameras and the sheer arrogance of the garbage bag trip. Fotis and Michelle were acting like the regulars wouldn't notice a strange visitor and had fewer private surveillance systems; he totally forgot about public surveillance systems.

The bags were VERY clean of DNA and prints; I think that Fotis thought they'd be touched a lot in Hartford, by people looking for valuables, recycling, or food, and make the bags, if found, less clean but still without Fotis' or Michelle's DNA.

I think Fotis was thinking, as he went permanently to sleep in his car, "If only I had left Michelle and my phone at home that night, I never would have been caught.

MOO means My Own Opinion.

MOO


Edit: I lazily used "wildly more likely" than a number or a stat.

Here is a start at being more responsible with facts


MOO
 
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