Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #12 *ARRESTS*

[spaz1959]

P.S. It's to Dam* quiet!

 

[Mrs. M]

Here are some photos as you drive on Mountain Spring. At least three of the huge estate lots to the left of his house for sale belong to Fore Group. That is a ton of acreage.

 

[CarefullyTaught]

I saw it when they took the pic of him from his first jog also when he was in the nail meeting. I’ll post some ss here. I’m sorry it’s on his ring finger I must have forgotten because of so many details.

I hope that Jennifer got a good groin kick or two at FD and/or his discount hit person, in addition to the possible (hopefully) finger in the car or house door slam.

Anyone know whether Jennifer took any self defense classes (other than the duration of her marriage to FD, that is)?

Not that it matters ultimately in terms of outcome, but I’m glad she was able to make it harder on her murderer/s and attacker/s than I think they assumed it would be.

Even with the brutal way t[he]y apparently ambushed and blindsided her, she did not go down without a fight.

There’s no consolation here likely and no happy ending, but at some point and time I hope her kids and her family are able to take some comfort and strength and pride and power from all the evidence from the last two years of court battles, and before that, their escape, and after this all the ways in which she derailed her attacker/s’ fantasy of an unsolved abduction from Waveny, how very much their mother/sister/daughter loved and fought for them and against him until her last breath.

I am so proud of her. I am proud that she was somehow able to find a way to make this as messy and as troublesome for the murderer/s as she could have. Even after death, and with all NP’s patter, Fotis has not been able to silence her. Jennifer has an army in her corner.

It just sucks so much that all she and her family went through, that she couldn’t save herself forever again in this world once re/trapped by that Monster. FD’s a bully, a blowhard, and a coward.

 

[sleuth66]

IMO, LE had not informed FD that JD was missing yet.

FD's and MT's phones both pinged on Albany Avenue at 7:10 pm in Hartford/West Hartford which means they left 4 Jefferson Crossing before 7:00 pm with the exact time unknown, depending on which end of Albany Avenue they were on, when their phones pinged at 7:10 pm.

LE received the call at 6:59 pm and went to the Welles Lane home shortly thereafter for a welfare check.

Then LE took time to ring the door bell and look around the home and then eventually get the security code from the Nanny, to enter the home.

IMO, LE did not know they were dealing with a true missing person until they saw the blood splatter in JD's garage, at some point later.

IMO, I highly doubt JD's Family and Friends would let FD know that JD was missing and I highly doubt they called FD to ask if he had heard from JD either.

I am leaning your way on the altered plates on the Employee Red Truck.

It could not have been on FD's Ford Raptor, because FD wanted the employee to be seen in FD's truck and FD needed the 'alibi' that the employee was in the Ford Raptor.

I doubt the plates would have been on JD's Suburban since FD wanted everyone to think that JD had parked her car at Lapham Road and went for a run in Waveny and he could not risk someone seeing him take the plates off while at Waveny.

So, the only vehicle left, is the employee's Red Truck and No Doubt in my mind, that the plates were On the Red Truck.

IMO, FD had to make sure that the actual plates of the red truck, did not show up in any photos that might be taken from LE cameras posted anywhere from Farmington to New Caanan and back.

IMO, FD also wanted to make sure the employee thought FD did not drive the red truck on Friday, May 24, 2019 and therefore covered or exchanged the plates before driving the red truck to NC and removed them after going through the car wash and returning the red truck to the Mountain Springs location where the employee had parked and left the truck when the employee took FD's Ford Raptor.

It is Very important for FD's case if the employee thought that FD did not drive the Red Truck that Friday.

Where is it cited that the employee truck exchange took place at 80MS? The Fore Group office was at 4JC so it’s also possible the employee truck was left there. It was reported the employee as using it all week and returning to FD on weekends. All I’ve seen is that the truck exchange took place between 4-5:30 in Farmington.

 

[MemPat]

What about a girlfriend hiring a PI?

Hiring a PI to follow someone or following them yourself is a protected right unless they are threatened in some way or something illegal is done to them.

I hope and pray Jennifer's mother has PIs looking into every aspect of FD's life and I'll bet she has a team of them.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

So brave of you to share...am sure it's true. Thank you.

And, after many years in public education, I can confirm that the children of angry divorces often become angry kids, sometimes angriest with their parents.

Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate them. I’m not brave but those kids and their mom and grandmother are.

 

[AbbyG]

I have a few questions - apologies if these have been addressed already, I am just catching up. Great catch about the damaged nail -- is this on the hand that he covered with a glove when sweeping? Do we know if he is right or left-handed? Did JD try to slam the car door (or back door) on him but she did not manage to escape? Also the house in NC that he cleaned and swept so diligently - RO posted pix of him literally inspecting the front entry that he also mopped and swept. Did he carry something through that door on the day he committed murder, and did he have to make sure there was no evidence of this? Also MT - with all the signaling Norm has been trying to do, isn't it likely that FD can bring her down, but not without incriminating himself, and he is desperate for her to back him up though she knows everything? I think she was sticking by him and helping to cover up murder. She is not a good person. IMO MOO.

 

[CarefullyTaught]

Here are some photos as you drive on Mountain Spring. At least three of the huge estate lots to the left of his house for sale belong to Fore Group. That is a ton of acreage.

Thank you so much for taking the time to do the drive by photography and to upload these great photos @Mrs. M !

I’m actually surprised no one has vandalized any of those nice white FoRe Gloop signs! Apart from the defendants in the present case, it seems like people in NC have really respected the process and trusted the system to play out in an orderly fashion. Many jurisdictions are not so kind to defendant/s’ properties in these kinds of cases.

FD never deserved New Canaan.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Hope, I feel your pain. We rode around all night for many nights afraid to go home but my amazingly brave mother sang show tunes and entertained us. I imagine Jennifer did something similar for her children and they probably have some amazing survival skills that are seeing them through these hard days. I pray that is so. And I pray for the frightened girl inside you, my friend.

You are very kind, and I thank you. I applaud your mother and feel her spirit, and I agree about Jennifer having done something like that. By trying to save them from him, she put herself on the line. No worries about me, my friend. I’m fine; I just wish those kids and all the others we don’t know about never knew a moment when they were afraid. I’m glad the people here and with LE work to rescue or stand up for those who cannot save themselves.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Lots of us had bad upbringings, have been bullied, have been poor at the worst possible times in our lives. His childhood wasn’t worse than mine, even in the unlikely event that he didn’t embellish it. Not all, or even many of us, grew up to be people who turned around and bullied others (I include JD’s treatment at pressers), or practiced our professions in a dishonest way (his lies). I have no beef with a defence attorney defending someone like FD; that’s his job, after all. I object to him using a subpar childhood as an explanation/excuse for it. He does it because he enjoys it.

I am so sorry for what you endured. All that and you came out for and as the light for others. Blessings to you.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Yeah, Bulldog. my father made a fine art of bigamy and I had to get a knife to make him drop his knife from my mother's neck at age 15. My career was running a cancer support center.

NP is so full of malarkey and I believe absolutely nothing he says, especially this latest fairy tale.

I am so sad to hear this—and so proud to know you, a brave soul and light.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Bringing this over from Thread #10 to reply to queries on this thread about the extent of the dogs barking:

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I am convinced that the noise that morning had something to do with JD’s disappearance. Too coincidental, and besides, only someone who is desperately trying to accomplish something would be making that kind of racket at 5:00am, so loudly that the neighbors and all of the nearby dogs could hear it.

Yes, it is very suspicious, and keeps bothering me, especially that the dogs in the neighborhood supposedly barked for hours.

A loud noise is one thing for dogs to bark at for awhile while it's ongoing, but with their acute sense of smell, I wonder if they kept barking for hours because they could smell something foul. BBM above and below.

Signs that a dog has picked up on the smell of a cadaver can vary from one dog to another. However, the dog will do something that it would not normally do when it does sniff out a cadaver. For example, some dogs will get into a sitting position at the spot where the smell has been identified while others may start scraping at the area with their paws. Some dogs simply stare at the spot where they detect the smell and are very intense when they do this. Others may bark and whine when they pick up on the scent of a cadaver.

Read more at: Can Dogs Smell Cadavers? - Wag!

 

[sleuth66]

This is what I'm wondering. Could LE have said to GF and Family what they know and believed happened to JD. Let's say that LE breaks it to GF that they believe JD body is no longer intact. The confide they have found tissue and blood that matches JD. You see the lack of a reward or search party has always been odd to me. That's just MO, and I have always wondered if there's more to it. Maybe GF is keeping quite so LE can nail FD to the wall?

https://nypost.com/2019/06/29/jennifer-dulos-family-is-sheltering-her-kids-from-news-coverage/

From the NYP article today about the family, it would seem that LE hasn’t broken any news determining JDs actual demise, the source is quoted as saying:

“The older children have a different curiosity and seem to have a different awareness of what might have happened. We make sure they learn things pretty much as we learn them.”

I don’t think the source would make such a statement if the family had learned something confirming her body is no longer intact. Doesn’t mean LE hasn’t, just doesn’t suggest they’ve shared such a sentiment with GF.

 

[tmar]

I don’t know if it was discussed previously but when they arrested MT I noticed something pretty incriminating. Her shoes did not have shoelaces on them and we all know the only time we take off the whole shoe lace is to throw it in the washing machine. Please let me know what y’all think. Thanks

When I want to quickly put on shoes to go outside, when in the house, my runners don't have laces because easier to slip on.

 

[Chocoholic]

Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate them. I’m not brave but those kids and their mom and grandmother are.

Don’t ever sell yourself short like that, I will not hear of it!!

 

[tmar]

Thank you so much for taking the time to do the drive by photography and to upload these great photos @Mrs. M !

I’m actually surprised no one has vandalized any of those nice white FoRe Gloop signs! Apart from the defendants in the present case, it seems like people in NC have really respected the process and trusted the system to play out in an orderly fashion. Many jurisdictions are not so kind to defendant/s’ properties in these kinds of cases.

FD never deserved New Canaan.

But it is still early times.
Wait until the arrest.
Surely people will let FD know what they think of him, by 'checking out' these properties.

 

[sleuth66]

Here’s a little detail that’s been bothering me, maybe someone can clear it up with some citations/timeline.

Estranged husband of missing Connecticut mother-of-five is questioned by police | Daily Mail Online

In this video in the Daily Mail taken on the May 31 escort from 4JC to the state police for DNA testing, it was reported that FD drove himself and MT to the police station in his own vehicle.
The video shows him driving a black GMC Yukon with Maryland plates- pulling up to the house and getting out of that vehicle, then driving himself and MT in the police escort line out of the driveway. (Also a white Jeep with MT daughter and presumed nanny- FD spends time sitting in passenger seat of that car while parked, likely giving directions to hotel he owns).

This was before the arrest at the hotel the following night and presumably before they took his vehicles as evidence- or was it? What’s he doing driving a GMC Yukon with Md plates? Is this a rental? Had they already taken his vehicles before the police showed up for the DNA test warrant? Or was he driving a rental of his own accord? When did they get a warrant for his vehicles?

 

[MassGuy]

Here’s a little detail that’s been bothering me, maybe someone can clear it up with some citations/timeline.

Estranged husband of missing Connecticut mother-of-five is questioned by police | Daily Mail Online

In this video in the Daily Mail taken on the May 31 escort from 4JC to the state police for DNA testing, it was reported that FD drove himself and MT to the police station in his own vehicle.
The video shows him driving a black GMC Yukon with Maryland plates- pulling up to the house and getting out of that vehicle, then driving himself and MT in the police escort line out of the driveway. (Also a white Jeep with MT daughter and presumed nanny- FD spends time sitting in passenger seat of that car while parked, likely giving directions to hotel he owns).

This was before the arrest at the hotel the following night and presumably before they took his vehicles as evidence- or was it? What’s he doing driving a GMC Yukon with Md plates? Is this a rental? Had they already taken his vehicles before the police showed up for the DNA test warrant? Or was he driving a rental of his own accord? When did they get a warrant for his vehicles?

Yeah it’s a rental, under MT’s name. She rented it a few days after Jennifer’s disappearance.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Also heartbreaking to think that this is only their family history since June 2017. I can't even imagine what it must have been like for a mom and 5 children + nanny to flee from a familial home two years ago with only the contents that could fit in one car to begin a new life in a new home in a new town. How much must have been necessarily left behind and how heart wrenching it must have been to pack up and try to prioritize, even more so if trying to be discrete and not raise suspicion.

Yeah, it must've been just such a travesty/tragedy all along, my heart bleeds for JD. She was strong, loving, and had many other wonderful aspects. Since there is no going back in time, just waiting patiently for her murderer to go behind bars for the rest of his life. JMO

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I also keep going back to one of the reporters tweets at the time the emergency warrant was served on 4JC and it said that MT was found at the computer attempting to erase files/documents when LE entered. I haven't read anything more about this situation but if it were reported accurately this clearly seems like hindering and tampering to me. If MT as the Manager of FORE Group was an employee in more than name only then I find it impossible to believe she didn't understand the finances of the company and the overall situation that FD was in financially.

Maybe FD did the finances himself and MT focused on the website and promo activities IDK but it was a small company and not many employees so she must have know at least something sharing an office with FD IMO.

All true from what we've seen from LE and MSM here. Just referring back to earlier threads, when JD went missing, The Fore Group, Inc. website only listed 1 employee, FD.

So if MT did some work for the company, IMO it was financial and PR in nature, and FD did most of the 'work' 'from his home office', and sometimes hired 'subs' on properties, still the properties 'weren't moving', which is why at the time of JD's disappearance, he owed her parents at least $2.5 million dollars. Again, the financial aspect.

ETA: Michelle Troconis has been working with Fotis Dulos at Fore Group, his luxury custom home building company, which is based at the Farmington home where they live together. It is not clear if Troconis was working for the company before she became romantically involved with Fotis Dulos.
Michelle Troconis: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com