CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #62

[afitzy]

I've been holding back on saying this but it's something I've noticed about the Defense attorney for a while. When he is speaking and wants to force a point, he thrusts his shoulders back and pivots his hips forward as if he's raping the world. He did it several times today but the Law&Crime logo was in the way of a screencapture. However, after today, a SS of his body's position is def on my list. jmhoo

You so intrigued me on this that I took the bait and looked. I see something and I agree it looks quite possibly aggressive and certainly hostile.

It certainly is odd body language. I do wish Judge would demand that he give witnesses personal space around the dock as he was disrespectful of that too imo.

I actually thought it looked like he was urinating on the poor witness but I guess either interpretation is absolutely unacceptable.

More new lows each and every day….psychological warfare by Defence Counsel on poor witnesses.

I’m laughing so hard I’m crying as could you imagine how Judge R could possibly address this? Perhaps a compilation video might be in order as I agree it is inappropriate and quite disturbing as well but seen in sequence and in court could be possibly ground breaking in the area of witness protection while in the Courtroom.

Good catch!
MOO

 

[Megnut]

Just to retírate big thanks to Megnut and others who update us!! IT is hugely appreciated.

I try to capture the gist of the testimony and something of the tenor, but I'm telling you -- trying to follow JS is a workout. Professor Hinkle. He is just all over the place. Disjointed. Addresses witnesses with raw disdain. Every whiny objection results in delay as the Judge has to try to make sense of it for JS. Considering he's had years to prepare, he's taken Defense 101 to new lows.

If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither facts nor the law, pound the table.

And I guess if that doesn't work, shuffle papers and pretend they matter.

JMwearyOpinion

 

[kaen]

I think the disjointed questioning is a strategy. He keeps getting a dent and moves to a new topic to make another dent in the story. He is hoping that his dents stick and the jury buys that PG was the conspirator rather than his client.

 

[Megnut]

I think the disjointed questioning is a strategy. He keeps getting a dent and moves to a new topic to make another dent in the story. He is hoping that his dents stick and the jury buys that PG was the conspirator rather than his client.

Agreed. It's not accidental.

It's just so distasteful.

JMO

 

[Snoopster]

Just back from a longggg drive from Montreal, helping my son settle there. (May I suggest a visit to Montreal during semi-nice weather? It's a great city!) I've been out of touch with WS threads, including this one, for a number of days. I've been waiting to hear PG's testimony and haven't had a chance to review much of it yet. What do each of YOU think the key points he made were? Was he credible?
TIA.
Snoop.

 

[afitzy]

I try to capture the gist of the testimony and something of the tenor, but I'm telling you -- trying to follow JS is a workout. Professor Hinkle. He is just all over the place. Disjointed. Addresses witnesses with raw disdain. Every whiny objection results in delay as the Judge has to try to make sense of it for JS. Considering he's had years to prepare, he's taken Defense 101 to new lows.

If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither facts nor the law, pound the table.

And I guess if that doesn't work, shuffle papers and pretend they matter.

JMwearyOpinion

Kudos on getting any of it as watching Defence Counsel today reminded me a bit of a Grateful Dead concert gone horribly off course with no hope of ever returning back to the song? But sometimes, if you are lucky, after 45 mins they get it together and the song returns! With Defence Counsel he never seemed to go anywhere and there was an odd randomness to the questioning that was frankly disconcerting. It probably was intentional as was the never ending paper shuffling. Guy needs a second chair that actually does some work or get him a paralegal to organise all the crap that is always being shuffled! Its simply too much!

I do wonder though if the Bikegate situation simply sunk him as he realised the severe damage it inflicted on his client as well as himself. I still cannot get over him going with MT to get the bike and thinking that was appropriate behaviour for an attorney and SHAME on Farmington PD for playing Debt Collector with no facts or proof too.

But, I do see the theatrics you see as the shuffling of papers and then not showing the video after silence in the Courtroom was simply too much that I'm surprised someone didn't just burst out laughing in Court and scream, "SHOW ME THE BEEF BUDDY"!

I think the story of poor Beckham backfired spectacularly too. Poor beckham, FD and MT couldn't even take him to the Vet and it appeared the poor pup might have even died alone. Who doesn't take their own pup to the Vet and stay with him to be euthanised? I don't even have words for FD and MT....new low even for them....

But the MT horrific statement about JF being buried with poor Beckham and then the two of them using poor Beckham to try to get Dulos children come to 4JX was also pretty despicable too (FD didn't have any visitation rights at that time due to the infliction with MT of psychological terror on the Dulos children in demanding that they lie to their mother about the presence of MT at 4JX along with her daughter when she shouldn't be there at same time as Dulos children when they visited). So, we saw FD and MT using dying dog to inflict pain and anguish on JF and the 5 Dulos children - it was new low on the MT and FD behaviour front imo.

What a collection of perfectly awful human beings. No wonder Beckham always stayed under PGs desk..dogs know...

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Just back from a longggg drive from Montreal, helping my son settle there. (May I suggest a visit to Montreal during semi-nice weather? It's a great city!) I've been out of touch with WS threads, including this one, for a number of days. I've been waiting to hear PG's testimony and haven't had a chance to review much of it yet. What do each of YOU think the key points he made were? Was he credible?
TIA.
Snoop.

DBM

 

[afitzy]

I think the disjointed questioning is a strategy. He keeps getting a dent and moves to a new topic to make another dent in the story. He is hoping that his dents stick and the jury buys that PG was the conspirator rather than his client.

I think he picked the incorrect witness for this strategy and I do agree today was sadly poorly executed theatrics.

But his own goal with the dirt bike was a stunner that again showed his client lying about lies and trying to steal from PG who she had known for a long time too.

Such a waste of time and absolutely disrespectful to the jury and Court.

MOO

 

[sleuth66]

A great line for Pros. McG today:
JS introduces Beckham the dog photo clearly from Mts iPhone photo library- state objects, has not been authenticated that the photo with bandaged paw is actually Beckham the dog.

Judge R asks JS for relevance; JS responds it shows that the dog had been at the vet, was bandaged, had bloodwork done.
Judge R: well that's a fact, but what's the material fact?
JS: The fact that there might have been ANIMAL blood in the Suburban when the dog was taken.
Judge R: Do you wish to respond counsel:
McG: Animal blood in the suburban??!? There is absolutely no nexus between that event, also, animal blood that comes back as a profile of Jennifer Dulos?


McG:I don't see how this is relevant at all- which Suburban are we referring to?
Judge R: The court is not clear in which vehicle the animal was transported to the vet
JS: I will lay that foundation, Mr. G, the dog was taken to the vet in the Suburban right?
PG: I'm not sure, the Suburban or the Jeep
JS: But the Jeep was newer right [WRONG JS: According to MT AW, Jeep Cherokee is 2014, FD Suburban is 2015]
PG: Possibly, yes
JS: So it's your testimony that you don't recall that you brought the dog to the vet in the Suburban because it was a larger vehicle [if newer doesn't work, let's try larger!]
PG: I'm not sure which vehicle I brought him to the vet in
JS: You're not disputing that you used the Suburban right. I believe you testified that you drove ANY of the vehicles that belonged to the Fore Group
PG: very very rarely the Suburban
JS But you also drove the Suburban right?
PG: It was only driving Jennifer to the airport, Fotis to the airport,
JS: taking the dog to the vet?
PG: possibly, I don't deny it

And did we ever hear where Beckham is actually buried? Because MT wanted JD buried next to Beckham, hope LE followed up on that.

 

[afitzy]

Another POV from an atty:

 

[sleuth66]

Waiting for JS to bring up MT's lack of understanding English.

MT: "That b%$*# should be buried next to Beckham!"
JS: "As you know my client does not understand English well. She was referring to the English translation for a female dog that should be buried next to Beckham, not to the mother of Fotis' children."

[MOO: for those trying to follow the transcript here, this is hypothetical, did not really occur in court today. But I'm waiting...JS is that good]

 

[Snoopster]

DBM

Lucked out on the weather in Montreal. Generally a snick below freezing and very sunny. Definitely warmer than usual. I hear they are supposed to hit 8 celsius (46F) this weekend. Strolling along the Lachine canal to Atwater market was so enjoyable. Bagels, flat whites (coffee), cheese, baguettes, fois gras, etc., were enjoyed by all! (missed out on the smoked meat.)

Back on topic...thanks for the update on PG's testimony. It seems that you really have to wonder about each of these people! (i.e. FD, MT, PG) Do they not relate to the rest of society??

 

[Aquarian]

I think the disjointed questioning is a strategy. He keeps getting a dent and moves to a new topic to make another dent in the story. He is hoping that his dents stick and the jury buys that PG was the conspirator rather than his client.

I completely agree. He’s a shyster imo and it’s all done with purpose

 

[kaen]

FD and MT were a complete mess. It is no surprise that they did not pull off the perfect crime. I believe they did a fair amount of planning and got so full of themselves that they blew the covering up of the crime. Further, they were trying to frame PG and had enough on KM that they would have thrown him under the bus as well.

PG was naturally wary of them. No dinner parties, no work on his home, not buying into their lives and lifestyle beyond the dirt bike. (Yes, I called it what it is... a dirt bike.) I venture that the set up of PG began months prior.

KM was clearly on the margins of his practice and life, with some serious disorders manifesting themselves (IMHO). I believe they helped him to see that it was possible to kill his own wife and help with JFD's demise. FD was so slick he thought he could convince KM's wife to come over to reconcile and have relations--- yuck. No doubt that he did what he did willingly and was totally set up as well. I don't think we know all of what he planned, what he did, and how he covered it up.

I keep waiting for more conspiracy evidence to come into play. I took note today when JS was reminding the jury that PG had access to the key and MT brought it back. I want the jury to focus on why she took it rather than she willingly brought it back. The dirt bike accusation was a nice character defining moment, just as her "jokes" were (sex in jail, b!t(h, etc). But, we need more for conspiracy (or, at least, I need more to feel like the door on that is slammed shut). My guess is that MT has a fair amount of "not going to put up with your bs" in her soul and is not afraid to express or act on those feelings.

 

[Mimi in London]

Yes, that is what I figured. Also, FD didnt have right to sell bike as it belonged to MT. But if PG had texts and proof of cash withdrawal etc he might have been able to keep bike or get money back from the broke socialite grifter.

But, I am incensed that Defence Counsel actually went with his client on the strong arm missing to get the bike and didn’t check out the facts.

What a total putz….to act without all the information.
MOO

The putz threw himself head-first into MT's mantrap.
MOO
@Jmoose

 

[Niner]

Whew! A LOT to read here this morning! And a BIG THANKS to @Megnut for the great posts & others who added theirs!

 

[Niner]

Thursday, February 8th:
*Trial continues (Day 20) (@ 10am ET) – CT – Jennifer Rebecca Farber Dulos (50) (May 24, 2019, New Canaan; still missing) – *Michelle C. Troconis (44/now 49) (Dulos’ GF) arrested & charged (6/1/19) & arraigned (6/3/19) with tampering with or fabricating physical evidence & hindering prosecution. Plead not guilty. $500K bond. Posted bond (on 6/3/19). These charges were dismissed (8/28/20) & recharged below.
*Charged (9/5/19) & arraigned (10/4/19) with tampering with evidence involving the borrowed car from work colleague. Plead not guilty. $100K bond. Posted bond (on 9/5/19). Off GPS 4/6/23.
*Charged (1/7/20) with conspiracy to commit murder. Plead not guilty. $2M bond. Bond reduced (1/8/20) to $1.5M & bonded out (on 1/9/20). Off GPS 4/6/23.
*Charged (8/28/20) with 2nd degree hindering prosecution, tampering with physical evidence & conspiracy to commit tampering with physical evidence. No plea entered yet. $500K bond. Posted bond. Off GPS 4/6/23.
The declaration of death for Jennifer was3 officially issued by Judge William P. Osterndorf on October 24, 2023.
Jury Selection began on 10/4/23 & ended 10/26/23. Started off with 6 jurors & 4 alternates. (6 men & 4 women). As of 1/4/24 2 more jurors were excused. 1/4/24: 6 jurors & 2 alternates. (4 men & 4 women). 1/10/24: 6 jurors & 5 alternates.
Jury Selection (2nd one) began on 1/9/24 & ended on 1/10/24. 1 alternate juror (male) dismissed (1/17/24). 6 jurors & 4 alternates. 1/18/24: 1 juror was dismissed. Now 6 jurors & 3 alternates. 1/29/24: 1 juror (#62-woman) replaced by alternate. Now 6 jurors & 2 alternates. (4 women & 4 men).
Trial began on 1/11/24. (will last about a month to 3/1/24)
Superior Court Judge Kevin Randolph presiding for trial. Assistant State’s attorney Sean McGuinness & Supervisory assistant State’s attorney Michelle Manning & defense attorneys Jon Schoenhorn & Audrey Felson.
Bond info & Court info from 6/3/19 thru 12/6/23 & Jury Selection Day 1-11 (10/4-10/26/23) & thru 1/4/24 & 2nd Jury Selection Day 1-2 (1/9 & 1/10/24) & Trial Day 1-18 (1/11-2/6/24) reference post #7 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...-50-new-canaan-24-may-2019-arrests-62.703629/
2/7/24 Wednesday, Trial Day 19: State witness: Pawel Gumienny back on stand for more direct & cross exam.
For more info see post #92 (article) here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...w-canaan-24-may-2019-arrests-62.703629/page-5
Trial continues on Thursday, 2/8/24.

No court on Friday, 2/9/24 or Monday, 2/12/24. Trial continues on Tuesday, 2/13/24

 

[Baby baby Jane]

I think the disjointed questioning is a strategy. He keeps getting a dent and moves to a new topic to make another dent in the story. He is hoping that his dents stick and the jury buys that PG was the conspirator rather than his client.

And exaggerated “check” on his notes supposed to indicate to the jury that he has just “proved” numerous points, though has actually just repeated States evidence in an accusatory tone.
What we have “seen” is both MT and FD, so close as in each others pocket, manipulating PG (and everyone else)

 

[Baby baby Jane]

JS also hoping there is at least one anti immigration person on the jury. They come here, work off the books, steal our dirt bikes …

Can’t see the logic when MT (immigration status and path to it not in evidence, is it?)) needs a translator ….
They come here, steal our husbands and kids, squat in our homes …

 

[afitzy]

I completely agree. He’s a shyster imo and it’s all done with purpose

Watch your wallets folks and buckle up as the games and tricks and smoke will imo amplify as the devastating evidence continues to stack up in this tragic case. I will simply continue to call them as I see them and feel free to disagree but I am disgusted that this performance by Defence is allowed to continue with ongoing lack of compliance to rules along with the entire narrative “testimony cross” where witnesses don’t hear any questions or have to wait 10 min for a question.

It’s a disgrace imo that witnesses aren’t being protected by the State or the Judge.

Moo