Cuddle Cat (and Other Obvious Lies)

[poco]

Kate's explanation of why the cadaver dog "hit" on the stuffed cat, is probably one of those elements in this case, that caused the PJ to look at her statements very carefully.

1. She stated (in so many words) that the toy is Maddie's favorite.
2. And yet, who takes the toy to their workplace? Kate. Beyond creepy.
3. She is a part-time GP. And yet it has been reported that she indicated she had contact with more than one cadaver. Maybe she should stop telling people she is a GP, and explain that she signs off on death certificates for the hospital morgue.

These "hits", appear to require that Kate stuffs it into the pocket of her jeans (that got a "cadaver hit"), as she makes her rounds as a part-time general practioner, to these cadavers that have been laying around for some time. And THEN, she has to have contact between her jeans and the cadaver.

please. This is beyond ridiculous.

LOL good one! How many GP's are actually around cadavers???? Give me a break!

 

[poco]

This is from another thread, but IMO, has some real cover up issues surrounding it......

From a post by Cali -

c. Kate McCann's screams to GM at 10:00 that "They took her", as she raced back to the restaurant without the twins. Who is "they"? Which one of her daughters is "her"? Like if she suspected that someone had kidnapped one of the children, why would she leave the twins alone?

My response.....

WOW, this sets my hinky meter off - good call Cali -

WHY would she leave the two twins alone when she just found her one daughter missing..........

WHY did she say "THEY took HER"; if that is in fact exactly what she said. Can anyone verify this? This sounds like a staged comment. THEY - who is they?? why did she say they? and HER - her who? There was another little girl in that room that night - Kate didn't specify which child was taken. Shey just said "THEY (small foreign faction??) took HER."

Wouldn't you think she would have said something more along the lines of "Maddie is not in the apartment" or "Maddie isn't in her bed" -
NOT - THEY TOOK HER!!!!!

In a way it sounds to me like a rehearsed script

 

[aussie_mum]

This is from another thread, but IMO, has some real cover up issues surrounding it......

From a post by Cali -

c. Kate McCann's screams to GM at 10:00 that "They took her", as she raced back to the restaurant without the twins. Who is "they"? Which one of her daughters is "her"? Like if she suspected that someone had kidnapped one of the children, why would she leave the twins alone?

My response.....

WOW, this sets my hinky meter off - good call Cali -

WHY would she leave the two twins alone when she just found her one daughter missing..........

WHY did she say "THEY took HER"; if that is in fact exactly what she said. Can anyone verify this? This sounds like a staged comment. THEY - who is they?? why did she say they? and HER - her who? There was another little girl in that room that night - Kate didn't specify which child was taken. Shey just said "THEY (small foreign faction??) took HER."

Wouldn't you think she would have said something more along the lines of "Maddie is not in the apartment" or "Maddie isn't in her bed" -
NOT - THEY TOOK HER!!!!!

In a way it sounds to me like a rehearsed script

100% agree! Considering she had previously left the apartment and she was a 3 year old, first thoughts would have been that she had left again and they should find her before she got hit by a car or found her way to the ocean. Even a "Someone's taken her!" But they???

Ummmm just had a crazy thought.... you don't suppose she could have been offered up to someone in a sexual type way but they were meant to not take her she was meant to stay in the appartment.... and when she was yelling that she knew who 'they' were.

 

[lizziedripping]

OK, we all agree that Kate's assertion to the PJ that the reason Cuddle Cat had a cadaver scent on it, as well as her clothing, was that she is a doctor and she was around dead bodies right before coming to Portugal, and that she often took Cuddle Cat to work with her....was utter BS.

What other obvious or possible lies have there been? Any? The fact that the children were checked on every several minutes when the Tapas staff says no one ever left the table that night comes to mind.

This is the thread for LISTING THE LIES or the stories that don't wash.

Hi English

I have read a few times on here that Cuddle Cat was supposed to be a present for Maddies' 4th birthday, by which time she had disappeared. If this is the case then why was Kate often taking it to work with her?

Does anyone know the true facts about Cuddle Cat - has anyone ever seen photos of Maddie with Cuddle Cat or any other pics of Cuddle Cat before Maddie disappeared?

 

[lizziedripping]

how is this for a lie. "we will not leave til maddie is found"

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[Shazza]

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How many more lies are there?

 

[Texana]

Gerry's uncle was on CBS morning show today, said in regards to the "will not leave" statement that Kate and Gerry will definitely return to Portugal if necessary to keep the investigation on track (my paraphrase) and going, that in the past they have even been the ones "driving the investigation" (exact quote.)

I don't know if that counts exactly as a lie, but it was definitely shaded towards the impression that without the McCanns the investigation would have just slowed to nothing.

 

[lizziedripping]

:clap: :clap: :clap:

How many more lies are there?

I don't believe that Kate was offered the plea bargain whilst being interviewed by the Portugese Police. All we know about her interview is what she has relayed to friends and family - the Portugese Police have called this plea bargain as 'absolutely absurd' -

I think I believe them before I believe 'Kate (I took Cuddle Cat To Work) Mc Cann'!

 

[Texana]

Mrs. Fenn testified that on the night Madeleine went missing, she heard all the commotion downstairs (she had the apartment above the McCanns and is a permanent resident there) she asked Kate McCann if she would like her to call police.

Kate said no, they had already been called.

The police were not called for another forty minutes by the parents.

It's a gap worth questioning why so long--especially since Kate insisted immediately "they've taken her."

 

[Edwards20]

I am having a hard time deciding what media reports are fact or fiction. Are we reading any of these "statements" on the blog ? Is there video/audio from any media outlet ? Or, are these just strictly print reports.

 

[Rino]

I don't believe that Kate was offered the plea bargain whilst being interviewed by the Portugese Police. All we know about her interview is what she has relayed to friends and family - the Portugese Police have called this plea bargain as 'absolutely absurd' -

I think I believe them before I believe 'Kate (I took Cuddle Cat To Work) Mc Cann'!

Right.

The windows and the shutters were not used as an entry point into or exit out of the apt.

 

[Salem]

Couple of comments - hope I remember everything:crazy:

I believe the first LE was called within 10/15 minutes. This was the small, local police force. After they arrived on the scene, they contacted the PJ. This was approximately 40 mins later. This has caused confusion from the beginning because of the 2 different arms of LE.

As to the plea bargain - there have been several posts addressing that issue. Remember this was an interrogation in two different languages. I believe there is a link or post that quotes a Portugese attorney that explains the procedure for a plea bargain and then there is a post (I think from Philomena?) that indicates that the max sentence for "negligent homicide" is two/three years. It is thought from these two posts that what might have really been said, was: If you confess to accidently killing Maddie, the most you will get is 2/3 years.

The Portugese Attorney said the police have absolutely no authority to offer a plea bargain. I subscribe to the theory that this was a miscommunication based on the language differences.

Edwards - there are many videos, many of which can be accessed through the media link thread. Some of which are very interesting.

Now - how long before the McCanns start the fight against extradition? Isn't the new lawyer a specialist is fighting extradition? as well as defending people's reputations?

Very interesting their choice of attorneys, that will be paid for from the Maddie campaign fund.:banghead:

I will say - if they are innocent - then I have no problem with them using the fund. The sooner they prove their innocence and get back to finding Maddie, the better. But if they are guilty, I hope contributors to the fund sue them for fraud!

Salem

 

[gaia]

The funds are frozen, I think. So, the parents will have to come up with defense $$$ somewhere else, thank God!!!

gaia

 

[englishleigh]

The funds are frozen, I think. So, the parents will have to come up with defense $$$ somewhere else, thank God!!!

gaia

How do you know??

 

[Texana]

How do you know??

Do you remember when the articles came out almost simultaneously that Gerry wanted to get back to a normal life with the twins BUT wanted to go all out with a "last ditch everything spent" kind of approach to finding Maddie? There was a tabloid type report that his brother who is the fund administrator, said no to that. No reason given, just that.

I don't think the funds can be frozen. It's a private account and not a charity.

As well, if people voluntarily sent their money, I doubt they can get a dollar or rather, pound back if the money is used for legal defenses rather than search expenses. There were no contracts signed, and unless someone gave a substantial amount of money AND can get a lawyer (solicitor, right, in Britain? I remember vaguely there are two kinds of attornies?) to take it on, then they are just so out of luck with that.

(Edited to add, it seems to have been set up basically as a trust fund, with an administrator or guardian other than the McCanns, a relative or more than one, who approves expenses and signs off on checks.)

 

[Barnaby]

Can authorities not step in to freeze the funds even in a private company?

 

[robinparten]

This is from another thread, but IMO, has some real cover up issues surrounding it......

From a post by Cali -

c. Kate McCann's screams to GM at 10:00 that "They took her", as she raced back to the restaurant without the twins. Who is "they"? Which one of her daughters is "her"? Like if she suspected that someone had kidnapped one of the children, why would she leave the twins alone?

My response.....

WOW, this sets my hinky meter off - good call Cali -

WHY would she leave the two twins alone when she just found her one daughter missing..........

WHY did she say "THEY took HER"; if that is in fact exactly what she said. Can anyone verify this? This sounds like a staged comment. THEY - who is they?? why did she say they? and HER - her who? There was another little girl in that room that night - Kate didn't specify which child was taken. Shey just said "THEY (small foreign faction??) took HER."

Wouldn't you think she would have said something more along the lines of "Maddie is not in the apartment" or "Maddie isn't in her bed" -
NOT - THEY TOOK HER!!!!!

In a way it sounds to me like a rehearsed script

If the above is true, I definitely think it was staged. From what I have read about other children gone missing, generally speaking, the parents don't automatically assume the child has been kidnapped, that is too painful and stunning to wrap your mind around. Instead, the first words might be something along the lines of "she is gone, she must have wandered away, did she go to someone else's room looking for us," that kind of thing. No parent wants to leap into the world of abduction and possible murder, you want to believe there is a logical explanation for why you can't find her, at least for the first few moments.

 

[MREG2]

If the above is true, I definitely think it was staged. From what I have read about other children gone missing, generally speaking, the parents don't automatically assume the child has been kidnapped, that is too painful and stunning to wrap your mind around. Instead, the first words might be something along the lines of "she is gone, she must have wandered away, did she go to someone else's room looking for us," that kind of thing. No parent wants to leap into the world of abduction and possible murder, you want to believe there is a logical explanation for why you can't find her, at least for the first few moments.

Exactly. It reeks of Scott Peterson to me. When he called Laci's mom he said Laci's missing. Hmmm..... :waitasec:

 

[Texana]

Can authorities not step in to freeze the funds even in a private company?

Not without evidence of a crime. When the fund was set up, I'm sure it was worded broadly enough to include living expenses for the McCanns. So whatever charges the administrators approve can be paid, as long as they are broadly categorized as living expenses.

Unless one of the trustees accuses the other of mishandling the funds, (and I'm sure all of them are McCann family and friends) then it's doubtful the fund would or could be frozen.

It wasn't set up as a special charity, it was set up as a trust fund for the McCanns, basically.

I'm certain their mortgage/bills at home, etc, have been paid out of the fund while they are not working. Several months of not working would deplete most "middle class" (as they've been repeatedly labeled) people's savings, and they had no immediate intent to go back to work, either one of them.

 

[Barnaby]

Not without evidence of a crime. When the fund was set up, I'm sure it was worded broadly enough to include living expenses for the McCanns. So whatever charges the administrators approve can be paid, as long as they are broadly categorized as living expenses.

Unless one of the trustees accuses the other of mishandling the funds, (and I'm sure all of them are McCann family and friends) then it's doubtful the fund would or could be frozen.

It wasn't set up as a special charity, it was set up as a trust fund for the McCanns, basically.

I'm certain their mortgage/bills at home, etc, have been paid out of the fund while they are not working. Several months of not working would deplete most "middle class" (as they've been repeatedly labeled) people's savings, and they had no immediate intent to go back to work, either one of them.

They have denied that any mortgage/bill payments have been paid for from the fund but then of course who knows with all their lies. Gerry McCann said that holiday insurance was paying for the rented villa, I found that strange.