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Trying to get her shirt white and earrings silver, which is what I believe they would have been originally? The type of shirt she is wearing looks like it would be white. This edit definitely feels a bit exaggerated, but I also can see where she may be Hispanic (or Native American?). Just a theory. Screen Shot 2022-07-03 at 4.29.54 PM.png
 
In the most tranquil (earliest?) shot, her expression is serene, her blouse is unrumpled, and her neck has no red stripes. Later, something has happened.
 

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Beekarina said:
That was a good idea to do screengrabs from the documentary @Daphne1972

I think she looks more "late 1960s" in the screengrab, especially her hairstyle, the way it is curled and slips upright. (I had not seen this exact image previously) Possibly even mid 60s. The poet shirt/Mexican shirt was a trend too then, I believe.

One thing about the earring. There does seem to be a loop/wire/something if you increase it and look. It isn't a typical straight post. See?

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You mean at the back? That's a screw back earring :) you literary screw that part onto your earlobe.

Yes this is the sixties alright. But he fled to NYC in September 1968. This imo is the Manhattan apartment but with much more clutter.

In the picture where you see the earring dangling from her ear, there's a few other interesting things besides the text in the magazine. Left there's a painting of a hand holding something. In the back something like a tile with apparently a tree on it. They have the same orientation. This freak liked his symbolism and rituals.

I bet if she's indeed a victim, the painting, tile and text/numbers on the magazine all mean something. That in itself could mean premeditation.
 
WildHuncher said:
In the most tranquil (earliest?) shot, her expression is serene, her blouse is unrumpled, and her neck has no red stripes. Later, something has happened.
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I know what you mean. But too me she's not serene as such but seemingly sedated.
 
Yes,I understand the screw back, I'm just curious about the curve of it. I will try to find something similar to show you.

I agree with you Daphne that she does not seem serene exactly. Something is a bit off about that photo to me. Maybe it is supposed to be a seductive pose, or maybe he just said something awful to her, I can't tell which but I personally find it a bit ....something? Maybe I'm reading into it, and she's just sitting there. Totally possible, of course!
 
Beekarina said:
Yes,I understand the screw back, I'm just curious about the curve of it. I will try to find something similar to show you.

I agree with you Daphne that she does not seem serene exactly. Something is a bit off about that photo to me. Maybe it is supposed to be a seductive pose, or maybe he just said something awful to her, I can't tell which but I personally find it a bit ....something? Maybe I'm reading into it, and she's just sitting there. Totally possible, of course!
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The earring looks a bit squashed. She looks as if she's going to pass out. Too much whites of the eye showing under her irises.

Edit, not whites of the eyes. I always thought that. It's just probably white eye pencil on the waterline.
 
Beekarina said:
Trying to get her shirt white and earrings silver, which is what I believe they would have been originally? The type of shirt she is wearing looks like it would be white. This edit definitely feels a bit exaggerated, but I also can see where she may be Hispanic (or Native American?). Just a theory. View attachment 352537
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Yeah most probably Hispanic.
 
Some of this too, trying to read a mood or what was going on, I guess we should also remember he shot in film, and he was a mediocre photographer. I think today, many of these shots would just be deleted. A lot of them have people with eyes half shut from blinking or making a weird face for reasons that are obviously not sinister too.
 
If I read the numbers correct and are zip codes, they lead to Flora park and Bryant park. Don't know if they existed back then. But I'm seeing a theme. Something floral in the hand, a tree on the tile, Flora park. Bryant is similar to Bryoni which comes from the Celtic word to sprout.
 
WildHuncher said:
In the most tranquil (earliest?) shot, her expression is serene, her blouse is unrumpled, and her neck has no red stripes. Later, something has happened.
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Glad I saw these posts because I said something about these weird marks on this girl's neck on another thread and someone said it was just hair shadows. I mean, maybe? I thought they were scars when I zoomed in. Burns, blood? I'm wondering if she wasn't so heavily drugged that she'd have been oblivious to pain. And shocking with SKs in this era was "a thing." I've wondered if he wasn't actually electrically shocking them. Far-fetched, yeah, understood.

Also, in some of these images of his, he has "some" of the people at "some" points wearing a scapular. The scapular is in certain shots for certain individuals and then disappears in other shots. Either all these people are wearing scapulars and he tells them to remove them (?) or he's giving them a scapular to use in the shots. They're of religious significance and specific to the individual, so that's-- pretty weird if he's doing it. But I mean, he's... bizarre and twisted beyond belief, so... I've guessed that particularly where you see the scapular, that's probably a victim.
 
snooptroop88 said:
Glad I saw these posts because I said something about these weird marks on this girl's neck on another thread and someone said it was just hair shadows. I mean, maybe? I thought they were scars when I zoomed in. Burns, blood? I'm wondering if she wasn't so heavily drugged that she'd have been oblivious to pain. And shocking with SKs in this era was "a thing." I've wondered if he wasn't actually electrically shocking them. Far-fetched, yeah, understood.

Also, in some of these images of his, he has "some" of the people at "some" points wearing a scapular. The scapular is in certain shots for certain individuals and then disappears in other shots. Either all these people are wearing scapulars and he tells them to remove them (?) or he's giving them a scapular to use in the shots. They're of religious significance and specific to the individual, so that's-- pretty weird if he's doing it. But I mean, he's... bizarre and twisted beyond belief, so... I've guessed that particularly where you see the scapular, that's probably a victim.
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IIRC some of his victims were choked several times before he finally killed them. This would produce plural ligature marks, which is what my fervid, fetid imagination sees here. But I can’t really tell.
 
WildHuncher said:
IIRC some of his victims were choked several times before he finally killed them. This would produce plural ligature marks, which is what my fervid, fetid imagination sees here. But I can’t really tell.
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This is jmo, but nothing with this particular SK could ever be "far-fetched." He's a raving lunatic. They all are imo, but this one especially so. I remember hearing some kind of presentation that went into graphic detail about what he did in terms of torture, and I mean really, really graphic detail. I'm not particularly squeamish, but even I finally had to turn it off. I'm delighted I found this thread because it looks like there's a lot of background for him on here. Also, I know people have trouble tracking him in terms of his timeline, which is understandable considering he's in jail so often. This link might help with that:


Someone from Radford University put this together.
 
snooptroop88 said:
This is jmo, but nothing with this particular SK could ever be "far-fetched." He's a raving lunatic. They all are imo, but this one especially so. I remember hearing some kind of presentation that went into graphic detail about what he did in terms of torture, and I mean really, really graphic detail. I'm not particularly squeamish, but even I finally had to turn it off. I'm delighted I found this thread because it looks like there's a lot of background for him on here. Also, I know people have trouble tracking him in terms of his timeline, which is understandable considering he's in jail so often. This link might help with that:


Someone from Radford University put this together.
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That’s one of the better ones. There’s a thread on this forum devoted to timelines for him. He had an erratic path to say the very least.
 
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