Visits between MS and everyone else are recorded and monitored. The exception being the lawyer. That would be the only way MS is getting forceful demands/commands out to his mom about the girls. If MS mom gets the girls, then he still controls the money that may come from insurance policies, even if the state appoints a state guardian. MS thinks he gets the money to spend on new lawyers and other possible things to keep the girls away from their moms family. BS may be a victim but IMO is controlled by her son. IMO, the girls either need to stay with TS mom or go into independent foster care as awful as that may be. MS tears are only for himself. I hope the Judge sees that. I also hope the best investigation is given to all adults in this matter.