The discovery of all body parts of Wall is important for family and relatives, says the Swedish detective Johan Esbjörnsson, who participated in the search at sea together with his dog Ben. But they are also essential in the forthcoming trial, which will begin on 8*March. "As is often the case: no body, no case," says Esbjörnsson. "These pieces of the puzzle are necessary in order to convict the perpetrator. (report dates from January 16 2018.)
https://nos.nl/artikel/2212242-puzz...gen-deense-uitvinder-kan-nu-echt-starten.html
Transcript of Dutch subtitles in video with interview of Johan Esbjörnsson and Ben:
This is Ben, employed by the Swedish police. He specializes in finding bodies in water. Ben can sniff drowned bodies from this boat. He was employed in the Danish submarine case.
Journalist Kim Wall boarded the submarine for her work. She did not return.
"We were called by the Danish police because we have water cadaver dogs They wanted to find the parts of the body that had disappeared. The torso had washed ashore by itself. The remaining parts were missing. They asked if we could track those parts in the sea. I thought: how will that work? It seemed impossible. We had never worked at sea before and we had never searched so deep. We mainly work in lakes and rivers.
But the Danes knew where the submarine had sailed, so we could focus on that stretch of sea."
"Even now, when the dog is lying here, he constantly records smells. So they have to be able to cope with a lot. For example, if we pass by a scent and we sail away from the scent again, then the dog has lost its scent. Then we come from another side in order to establish an area. So we interrupt the dog all the time. He has to start over and over again. So it takes a lot of effort from these dogs."
Ben and the detective took their boat to sea. Looking for five body parts. That proved to be very disappointing.
"When we left in the morning it was quiet weather but then the wind suddenly started to blow hard. Then we had waves of two, three metres. At the places in the sea where Ben gave a signal .... the divers went looking."
"The dogs managed to find the scent of the remains in the sea and the divers went after it... but they did not find any body part. Dog Ben was taken back to the sea ... to repeat the smell tests. We found out that the current was much stronger than assumed. We contacted an oceanologist specialising in sea and currents. He said we should look a kilometre further, he thought we would find something there. When the divers did that, they found all the remaining body parts."
"You are not happy because it is such a tragic matter. But I was very relieved. The dogs were right. And now the matter can come to an end. It was possible to find all the pieces of the puzzle so that a trial can be held... and the perpetrator can be convicted."
"Now I click, he has clearly indicated the smell. Then he gets his toy ball. On the way back he is allowed to sit on my lap. So that he knows he has done well."
- He needs to be pampered a little?
"Yes, then he gets some extra attention."
- Was that also the case at sea?
"Yes, that is how we did it there."
BBM
Madsen obviously gambled that the remains would never be found, and that might have worked out if it hadn't been for Ben and Johan. Maybe his preference for women and 'kittens' had something tot do with him not paying attention to what certain dogs are capable of.
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