Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #8

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ButForFortune said:
I will be astounded if MDLR is ever used as a mitigation specialist again. Clearly this was fraudulent, unprofessional, and had NOTHING to do with her duties as a mitigation specialist. She may have even billed the time she spent doing this to the state. What was she thinking? She earns IIRC something like $55.00 an hour (not shabby pay) to mainly sit in a courtroom and she risks everything for a vicious murderer?
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All of her billing is suspect imo and should be reviewed.
 
LinTX said:
Just watch, some who got pulled into this financial nest out of sincere (if delusional) support or to fight the DP will get burned. But SJ, for who it was simply another con, will be far down the road whistling a happy tune and watching for the next big case where he can try to make another defendant sympathetic to a certain group of losers people. Meanwhile the biggest concern for JA is who will fund her $100 a week commissary account if MamaDLR is busted and the 'fanbase' screwed and broke?
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I think we can now safely assume JA did have a major meltdown yesterday. Oh, to be a fly on the wall. No more protection money either.
 
daisydomino said:
Say, can you write that again in about 84 paragraphs and throw in lots of old news?

Kidding, thank you for the info.
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LOL. That article was badly written and edited, IMO. Included 90% of stuff everyone already knows or doesn't care about. I had to search twice to even find the financial "big news" that had been teased for nearly 3 hrs. Talk about "burying your lead." Bad journalism.

And the real news: ummm... Authorities are looking into stuff and looking into everyone who might be involved in that stuff. Stuff may or may not be illegal in whole or in part. Meanwhile people are kind of scared and deleting their social media accounts. Pfffft.
 
krkrjx said:
I hope the IRS cares about this as much as they do when the average citizen screws them over. Remember, the IRS didn't care too much about CA's taxes owed, and they did nothing when her parents did their shenanigans with "trust" funds in Caylee's name. Let's hope that doesn't mean they won't bother to go after Arias et. al every possible way they can.
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I just hope that since it appears to be an interstate conspiracy to defraud, that the FBI is investigating. The tax revenue wouldn't be that important, but the conspiracy is. JMO
 
the jury selection video I've watched gave me the clear impression that the DT game is to argue someone is qualified when they are clearly not. There was a woman who couldn't even make up her mind but who had answered she'd never give the DP in this case on her questionnaire and repeatedly contradicted herself. Juan wanted her off as someone who didn't even know what their own position was. Wilmott kept arguing she was qualified because at ONE point she said she could give the DP. Despite the fact that like 40 times she said she couldn't or didn't know, the one time she said yes made her qualified to Wilmott.

As is seemingly frequent with this DT, her arguments lacked the element of good faith. So it did seem an uphill battle to seat a truly death qualified jury. To me, I think it was better when a judge decided. I understand the constitutional argument but I think the process is just too involved and difficult. I found many of the juror answers made me feel they would likely not be able to impose death. It seems pretty easy for the DT to get lucky and have the Pros run out of challenges and get stuck. I'm amazed that we have any people on death row.

I'm just not sure how you can fix the system given the limitations of jury selection. You have to find people who would impose death, but not be overly enthusiastic about it and say you could impose it on anyone. I guess I don't really know enough about it. My state doesn't have a DP and these videos are the only exposure I've had to penalty phase juror selection. It didn't seem like a smooth process. And it is a lot to ask of people. I can imagine many potentially good jurors would simply not want to serve on a DP case and find a way to get excluded.

I do agree with a less than unanimous verdict but that is pretty rare, 3 states I believe and two may be problematic as requiring a simple majority. That may be too easily challenged. I think it would need to be some type of super majority, maybe 10-2. I think in general, making verdicts be unanimous is crazy. But it obviously works I guess so my feelings must be wrong. It just seems so easy for someone to muck things up, whether intentionally or just because they didn't understand something. Scary when you think we rely on unanimous verdicts to keep criminals off the streets.




Hatfield said:
For DP cases in jury selection I do think there needs to be 1 final step. Have each member of the potential jury pool meet with a professional that can really be sure they understand what they may be asked to do if the jury is leaning towards signing a DP form.

I think this last step would eliminate quite a few people that didnt think it through all the way to the very end. Its hard for normal folks to grasp what they may end up having to decide on and sign their name to.
I think having a last step like that would help to be sure the jury panel could fulfill their duties if the jury decides on a DP.

I think too many people think they can do it and at the very end they begin to struggle with it. Having a last step like this may help.

Also a unamimous verdict like 9-3 or more rather than total majority would go a long ways in helping the process. That alone would be a nice change to make and simple to make that change.
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ButForFortune said:
I will be astounded if MDLR is ever used as a mitigation specialist again. Clearly this was fraudulent, unprofessional, and had NOTHING to do with her duties as a mitigation specialist. She may have even billed the time she spent doing this to the state. What was she thinking? She earns IIRC something like $55.00 an hour (not shabby pay) to mainly sit in a courtroom and she risks everything for a vicious murderer?
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Sorry to quote my own post, but thinking about this further: how is it not unethical to work for the state on a death penalty case, and at the same time allegedly participate in hiding money from the state for the defendant in the case?
 
So is this was caused the special snowflake to have her mental breakdown?
 
Does anyone know how Paul Sanders' reference to "the Lady in Red" fits into all this?

Perhaps there is yet more news to come.

I am not at all disappointed in the news, to me you have to start somewhere in the chaotic hell of this trial. With the absolute VOID of accountability for misconduct on so many fronts, for so very long, it only takes one revealation to rip the whole thing open.
 
Madeleine74 said:
It's not quite as salacious as I thought. No surprise they are looking at the financial accounts and there's some kind of investigation into that. It's not a secret Jodi has minions and her minions were seeking donations and setting up funds of some kind. And of course high profile cases attract all kinds of cray-cray people trying to spread pro-killer messages, find ways to break the killer out of prison, and help fund a killer's defenses and other various activities. It's a cray-cray circle of slime. This has happened and is happening in other high profile cases, it just may be that the Arias team has been especially prolific with their slime.
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I was hoping it would turn out to be like the Charles Manson wedding and they were planning to sell her corpse as art on her murderbilia store only to be thwarted by the holdout juror upstaging Jodi.
 
Just thinking outside the box..we are all questioning how MDLR could be so stupid regarding the art and donations, yet her contract was extended until 2018. Could it be that the next story about to drop is that those twitter accounts did not belong to her? Someone that was involved with the money laundering and bank accounts was tweeting as MDLR? That, IMO, would be a bombshell.
 
Well personally I think MDLR shouldn't be in her role, it's freaking unreal that someone who is meant to be a mitigation expert is so easily manipulated by a borderline narcissist, and would get in bed financially with a con man from who runs these ridiculous sites. Talk about compromised.
 
krkrjx said:
Yep, I never get my hopes up of something BIG breaking anymore. It usually is touted as big but really just a whole bunch of nothing.
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I know, but look at it this way...

The BIGGEST and BEST and most SURPRISING part of it is, that for once we might get to see justice served to JA and all of her supporters.

After months...actually, years of all our speculations to finally know that it's all being investigated is HUGE in my book!!
 
cady said:
I just hope that since it appears to be an interstate conspiracy to defraud, that the FBI is investigating. The tax revenue wouldn't be that important, but the conspiracy is. JMO
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As long as someone takes the wrongdoers down, I'm good.

If I were guilty of this flavor of carp, FBI would scare me more than IRS.
 
Ha Ha! Arias is all alone in her cell - no communicating with her minions. Wonder if she even knows the authorities are looking at her scams. Do you think MDLR will visit and tell her? :bricks:
 
Nosey Parker said:
Ha Ha! Arias is all alone in her cell - no communicating with her minions. Wonder if she even knows the authorities are looking at her scams. Do you think MDLR will visit and tell her? :bricks:
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NOPE Too skeert.
 
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