Ebola outbreak - general thread #6

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  1. LaborDayRN

    LaborDayRN In a world where you can be anything, be kind

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    alwaysonmymind Well-Known Member

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    One of the 2x daily temperature checks is face to face. That's a lot of people. moo
     
  3. nomoresorrow

    nomoresorrow Well-Known Member

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    Disregard - now it's working...
     
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    alwaysonmymind Well-Known Member

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    Good, glad someone in the higher up had the balls to call 'em out. They are being misleading and in turn leading their health care workers to just have faith in some old medical data that has been proven inaccurate in more recent years.
     
  6. Jersey*Girl

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    http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...s-wouldn-t-get-test-drugs-in-u-dot-s-dot-plan

    Bloomberg News
    Some in Ebola Trials Wouldn’t Get Test Drugs in U.S. Plan
    By Anna Edney and Michelle Fay Cortez October 16, 2014

     
  7. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    I too, agree with other posters regarding body temp being this big hallmark, and start time of clock. There are so many variables - we could go to the store, buy three diff thermomterd and get three diff readings. That is commn sense!

    For some reason (to give the public the notion that there is some control?) I think its like grabbing at straws at this point. The CDC now wanting to talk to the outgoing flight - I just think they are so confused, and so in CYA mode that it is just gonna keep going out of control

    Body Temp:

    depends upon the place in the body at which the measurement is made, the time of day, as well as the activity level of the person. Different parts of the body have different temperatures

    inside the body cavity, are typically slightly higher than oral measurements, and oral measurements are somewhat higher than skin temperature.

    a wide range of temperatures has been found in healthy people.[SUP][4]

    lower temperatures in the morning and higher temperatures in the late afternoon and evening, as the body's needs and activities change

    core body temperature of an individual tends to have the lowest value in the second half of the sleep cycle; the lowest point, called the nadir, is one of the primary markers for circadian rhythms. The body temperature also changes when a person is hungry, sleepy, or cold.

    An early morning temperature higher than 37.2 °C (> 98.9 °F) or a late afternoon temperature higher than 37.7 °C (> 99.9 °F) is normally considered a fever

    temperature is elevated due to a change in the hypothalamus's setpoint.

    Core temperature is normally maintained within a narrow range so that essential enzymatic reactions can occur. Significant core temperature elevation (hyperthermia) or depression (hypothermia) that is prolonged for more than a brief period of time is incompatible with human life.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body_temperature

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    nomoresorrow Well-Known Member

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    Anyone in the entire continent of Africa? Really? Sorry, but I completely disagree - Do you realize how huge the continent of Africa is? 53 countries, including the island nations of Cape Verde, São Tomé and Príncipe, Madagascar, the Comoros, the Seychelles, and Mauritius. Talk about broad brush strokes...

    JMO ~
     
  10. Jersey*Girl

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    IMO this is incredibly interesting, especially if all the links are read in full...

    https://www.pehub.com/2011/02/chimerix-scores-barda-funding/

    REUTERS
    PE HUB
    Chimerix Scores BARDA Funding

    BY PEHUB ADMINISTRATOR
    FEBRUARY 16, 2011

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    http://www.publichealth.lacounty.gov/acd/procs/b73/DiseaseChapters/B73Smallpox.pdf

    Acute Communicable Disease Control Manual (B-73)
    REVISION—MARCH 2011
    SMALLPOX

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    http://wraltechwire.com/durham-based-chimerix-speeds-up-ebola-testing/14085515/

    Updated Oct. 16, 2014 at 2:45 p.m.
    Durham-based Chimerix speeds up Ebola testing
    By WRAL TechWire

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    http://www.chimerix.com/c/discovery-clinical-trials/brincidofovir.php

     
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    Would that be kind of like not going to a meeting etc if there is someone there who just came from Texas? Or better yet, came from Oklahoma? Same country but totally different area.
     
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    I am glad they are doing this since it seems they can't be trusted to use their common sense and stay isolated. jmo
     
  13. Jersey*Girl

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    Only reservoirs known are USA & Russia. No outbreaks noted yet several million/billion spent on a research contract 3 years ago? Ebola comes to America, no proper protocol is in place except for some outdated chit, all of a sudden the FDA approves trial use for Brincidofovir? I guess we're all just lucky they were already working on this, even though it started out as a remedy for smallpox that hasn't popped up here for years and years and years - except in the notion of a bio terror attack. So is something being kept from us? Can't help but wonder...
     
  14. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    There is somewhat of an irony here as it relates to the hospital offerring staff (PR) to take a suite at their hotel! It is even crazier in that the invitation has been extended to HCW, a educated group of folk, which in all liklihood would know, this probably, if my body may soon be fighting something,is not the best place to sleep where in the liklihood of running into folks who have been near body fluids. Mayor said CNN dozens have taken the offer - has anyone heard anything ?


    CNN Myaor offerered the people a hotel room . well they better do it in top secret mode, with all the hysteria, if a hotel knew they probably would not let them stay

    Just spiraling,,,

    And I think the nurse on cnn is not being realistic, they may not fire her but they can make her life miserable - and in all liklihhod a lot of the admin types would enjoy doing just that

    Doctors are also going to have issues with her chatting wiht ANderson -- cause in the model we endorse, ultimatly the docs should have spoke up about the conditions - so it sheds them in a bad light.

    Any of us who served in a healthcare setting KNOW docs can make someones life diffiuclt. She alslo understandably, appears pretty stressed, and might benefit from some PAID time off!
     
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    That is a wonderful video!! So sweet, she tears up when they thank her for her sacrifices!!

     
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    alwaysonmymind Well-Known Member

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    Isn't it? If I'm ever sick I want her to be my nurse.
     
  18. nomoresorrow

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    I have a huge issue with this! If DC's are distributing their drug under the animal rule, than that company should not be able to utilize this crisis; the crisis that enabled them to get approval by the FDA, under the Animal Rule in the first place, to conduct a typical quantitative study. IMO, if you've got it, you give it, and you can utilize the outcome information gained from that but to withhold potential live-saving treatment in/during an outbreak is unethical. This is BS!
     
  19. TexMex

    TexMex Punishment is justice for the unjust.

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    http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2014/10/ebola_patient_amber_vinson_vis.html

    AKRON, Ohio -- Ebola patient Amber Joy Vinson was in Tallmadge planning her own wedding this weekend and shopped for bridesmaid dresses at a bridal shop in Akron; now her fiancé of three months is self-monitoring for Ebola symptoms in Dallas.

    The fiancé, who lives in Texas, called his workplace and told them he had been around Vinson before she got sick, according to WFAA Television in Dallas.
     
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