FL - Derek Rosa, 13, charged as adult in stabbing death of mother Irina Garcia in her sleep, 13 Oct 2023

[Charlot123]

It's interesting to learn that he is in adult jail because he is charged as one. While he's accused of a horrific crime, being in solitarily confinement seems harsh for his age.
He behavior is also interesting. He seems to be a bright kid but you can't truly understand what's beneath that. I wonder if this is due to his autism and ADHD or is he a psychopath. He may prefer the isolation, MOO.
He didn't want to harm his sister, perhaps he cared something for her. A sister he is likely to never speak to or see again.
I thought perhaps jealousy was the motive. But maybe it was some deep seated resentment of mom. MOO

IMHO, more deep-seated and probably, not triggered by jealosy to his sister. He didn't attack a baby girl, he attacked his mom. Overcame all barriers.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

*I dont even know what to say. This photo disturbs me

Prosecutors released this image of murder defendant, Derek Rosa. His hand appears to be red. Prosecutors said he sent the pictures to friends

Moms rally for 14-year-old boy who allegedly stabbed his mother to death in her sleep

"I completely believe that he is innocent of all charges," says Ariana Reyes, a Chicago mom who has been traveling to Florida to support Derek Rosa in court with other mothers from across the country.

lawandcrime.com

 

[Kemug]

There likely are reasons and excuses for what he did. Why don't these deluded ladies stop being in total denial, and instead concentrate on any mitigating circumstances?

 

[Chimera]

@imstilla.grandma :
Holy heck, I hadn't seen that photo before.
I do think it's important that people see him thus.
A thirteen year old is just capable of evil as an adult.

What would be a mitigating circumstance for this heinous act ?
I don't think I've read anywhere that he was neglected or mistreated ?
Was he jealous of the baby ?
Imo.

 

[Kemug]

@imstilla.grandma :
Holy heck, I hadn't seen that photo before.
I do think it's important that people see him thus.
A thirteen year old is just capable of evil as an adult.

What would be a mitigating circumstance for this heinous act ?
I don't think I've read anywhere that he was neglected or mistreated ?
Was he jealous of the baby ?
Imo.

I was thinking more like a medical condition.

 

[Chimera]

I was thinking more like a medical condition.

That could be.
Autism and/or ADHD wouldn't necessarily spur him on to knife someone to death, though ?
Also, maybe some sort of psychosis.
Omo.

 

[Marysmith]

There likely are reasons and excuses for what he did. Why don't these deluded ladies stop being in total denial, and instead concentrate on any mitigating circumstances?

I'm sorry but it's crazy to me that some mothers have traveled, left their own families, to "support" him...

 

[Dotta]

Was he jealous of the baby ?

He didn't harm the baby.

I suspect severe MH issues.

Was he examined by psychiatrists?
I cannot remember if he was.
So much time has passed since I first learnt about this tragedy.

JMO

 

[Chimera]

He didn't harm the baby.

I suspect severe MH issues.

Was he examined by psychiatrists?
I cannot remember if he was.
So much time has passed since I first learnt about this tragedy.

JMO

Bbm.
Yes, thankfully he did not harm his sister.
He did take away her momma forever, so that still bothers me so much.

Re. the bolded : By now I'd imagine he has been assessed , maybe by more than one psychiatrist ?
Imo.

 

[Kemug]

Yes, "he didn't harm the baby". But do we really know how close he came to it? Maybe he thought about it and changed his mind. Maybe he would have if LE had taken too long to arrive? What if his stepfather had arrived home unexpectedly? I for one wouldn't believe a word he says. And he's quite intelligent enough to lie about absolutely anything IMO, from events, issues, history, even some sort of medical thing.

 

[Chimera]

I will honestly admit that even with prison time and meds & therapy; I fear for people out in the world connected to him (or not, like, say, a neighbor ?) -- if he gets released.
Makes me ill.
What if he does say ten years or so and completes any and all programs designed to rehabilitate him and the law thinks he is now safe ?
To take a knife to your own mom is about as low as you can go.
Imo.

 

[Dotta]

I suspect it was an issue between him and mother in his probably sick mind.
Some kind of "mommy complex".
Something he might have blamed her for whatever reason - real or imaginary.
He should be thoroughly examined by specialists.
He might spend his life in psychiatric unit of prison.

JMO

 

[Kemug]

His poor little sister. She has had her loving mother cruelly taken away from her, and will have no memories of her, only photos. What she may have is lifelong imaginings, thoughts, even nightmares of what and how it happened.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I'm sorry but it's crazy to me that some mothers have traveled, left their own families, to "support" him...

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Seattle1]

Re-quoting my earlier post from the preliminary hearing as a reminder about the brutality of DR's crime against his mother:

I listened to this hearing live last December and I'll never forget the testimony by Detective Joseph Elosegui. Sure, DR may be learning disabled but he's also strong and beyond cruel:

Detective Joseph Elosegui, with the Hialeah Police Department’s Major Crimes Unit, who testified that Garcia had 46 stab wounds all over her body, and the only parts of her body that didn’t have stab wounds were behind her knees.

Elosequi also testified that further investigation showed that Rosa made six Google searches on the evening of his mother’s death. Those searches included:

“The carotid artery image diagram.”

“What is the best place to stab someone?”

“Is a small knife good for killing?”

“Is it easier to kill someone with a small knife?”

“Can a knife cut through bone?”

See my MSM link above.

 

[Charlot123]

I am.concerned that he sent a photo to a "virtual" friend. I wonder if there are some loosely connected groups supporting such acts.

I listened to this hearing live last December and I'll never forget the testimony by Detective Joseph Elosegui. Sure, DR may be learning disabled but he's also strong and beyond cruel:

Detective Joseph Elosegui, with the Hialeah Police Department’s Major Crimes Unit, who testified that Garcia had 46 stab wounds all over her body, and the only parts of her body that didn’t have stab wounds were behind her knees.

Elosequi also testified that further investigation showed that Rosa made six Google searches on the evening of his mother’s death. Those searches included:

“The carotid artery image diagram.”

“What is the best place to stab someone?”

“Is a small knife good for killing?”

“Is it easier to kill someone with a small knife?”

“Can a knife cut through bone?”

See my MSM link above.

One wonders what parts of her body had the most wounds? Did he aim at the heart?

 

[Seattle1]

*I dont even know what to say. This photo disturbs me

Prosecutors released this image of murder defendant, Derek Rosa. His hand appears to be red. Prosecutors said he sent the pictures to friends

Moms rally for 14-year-old boy who allegedly stabbed his mother to death in her sleep

"I completely believe that he is innocent of all charges," says Ariana Reyes, a Chicago mom who has been traveling to Florida to support Derek Rosa in court with other mothers from across the country.

lawandcrime.com

How can these deluded women say DR did not commit this crime when there is physical evidence, he's captured on surveillance, and confessed to stabbing his mother! SMH...

“He is a child, he can easily be manipulated by an adult,” she said. “I believe there was more than one person in that scene, we hear noises in the background of the 911 call, I strongly believe that he’s innocent and was manipulated by someone else around that scene.”

 

[Seattle1]

I am.concerned that he sent a photo to a "virtual" friend. I wonder if there are some loosely connected groups supporting such acts.


One wonders what parts of her body had the most wounds? Did he aim at the heart?

IMO, he aimed at her neck and was looking to make fatal wounds at her carotid arteries (per his google searches) and there are four carotid arteries-- with a pair located on each side of the neck.

From the Law & Crime linked at post #422:

“Where exactly did you cut her?” an investigator asks in one clip.

“At first I cut her right here,” Rosa responds, pointing to his neck.

“There’s some red stains there [on Rosa’s shirt],” the investigator says. “Is that blood?”

Rosa replies, “I think it is.”

 

[Seattle1]

DR has a status hearing on January 16 at 8AM.
Will his email fan club show up in Miami-Dade County on Thursday? I think DR's last Status hearing was on Nov 8, 2024.

When did Jose Baez join his case? Or at least Baez notified the Court of his unavailability dated 1/4/25 -- presumably for the 1/16/25 status hearing.

Hearing​

Hearing Date: 01/16/2025	Hearing Time: 08:00	Hearing Type: R
Court Room: REGJB - JUSTICE BUILDING, ROOM No.: 4-8
Address: 1351 N.W. 12 ST

Dockets​

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365	01/14/2025		AMENDED DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
364	01/13/2025		REPORT RE: STATUS SET FOR 01/16/2025 AT 08:00
363	01/04/2025		NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY OF COUNSEL JOSE A BAEZ ESQ
362	12/30/2024		AMENDED DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
361	12/20/2024		AMENDED DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
194	12/17/2024		REPORT RE: STATUS SET FOR 01/13/2025 AT 09:00
359	12/16/2024		REPORT RE: STATUS SET FOR 12/17/2024 AT 09:00
357	12/03/2024		NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION VIA ZOOM
356	12/03/2024		AMENDED DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
355	12/02/2024		RECEIPT FOR EVIDENCE RELEASED TO RACHAEL GELLIS ASA (RECEIPT CREATED, EVIDENCE NO T RELEASED
354	11/26/2024		AMENDED DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
276	11/26/2024		RECEIPT FOR EVIDENCE RELEASE TO DEFENSE ATTORNEY DAYLISET RIELO
275	11/26/2024		AMENDED DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
274	11/26/2024		AMENDED DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
273	11/21/2024		AMENDED DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
272	11/18/2024		ORDER: GRANTING PERMISSION TO SIGN OUT EXHIBITS...
271	11/16/2024		MOTION TO/FOR: FURTHER VISUAL INSPECTION OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
353	11/12/2024		EMAIL RECEIVED FROM: ELISEO JUAREZ
352	11/12/2024		EMAIL RECEIVED FROM: YOHEMIS LEIVA 7/17/2024
351	11/12/2024		EMAIL RECEIVED FROM: MARIA MARTINEZ 7/18/2024
350	11/12/2024		EMAIL RECEIVED FROM: DUNIA 9/5/2024
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345	11/12/2024		EMAIL RECEIVED FROM: GABRIELA AR 8/8/2024
344	11/12/2024		EMAIL RECEIVED FROM: PRISCILLA BENITO 8/8/2024
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[Seattle1]

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12/31/24

Teen Derek Rosa goes to trial for the murder of his mother​

Derek Rosa, the Hialeah teenager who was just 13 when authorities said he called 911 and confessed to stabbing his mother, 39-year-old Irina García, to death with a kitchen knife, is currently in a county jail awaiting trial.

Rosa, now 14, will be tried as an adult more than a year after the alleged crime took place on Oct. 12, 2023.