FL FL - Female, African/Black or Latino/Hispanic, 18-35, 5'7-8'', Tam Miami Trail, 12 Feb.1980

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711web.com
The Charlotte County cold case unit is looking for potential clients in two cases; Unidentified bodies found in 2002 and 1980 in Punta Gorda - Published Reporter® | 711web
''1980 Unidentified remains of Akline Road and Tamami Pass

On February 12, 1980, skeletal remains were found in bushland adjacent to the Seaboard Coast Line railroad near Acline and US 41 (Tam Miami Trail) by a bulldozer operator who was clearing trees along the railroad tracks. When the operator noticed the bones, he called the Charlotte County Sheriff’s Office who responded to the scene and launched an investigation. While most of the bones were found on Earth, some bones were found during the forensic examination process. Also present during the sifting process were two jewelry rings, a 6-inch silver spoon ring and a 9-inch gold ring with a topaz stone.

On October 11, 2011, the CCSO Cold Case team asked Heather Walsh-Haney, a forensic anthropologist at the University of Florida Gulf Coast, to perform an analysis of the skull. It then issued a report that indicated the victim was a female, between the ages of 18 and 35 and could be of African/Black or Latino/Hispanic descent. The report notes that the time of death could have been anywhere from several months to several years before discovery. However, analysis of the remains of specific fractures of the skull cannot determine whether they occurred before or after death. Her height was estimated to be 5’7 – 5’8″ when the remains were recovered.

In 2021, the CCSO Cold Case asked the forensic imaging team at the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office to prepare a photo of how the victim appeared before she died. Forensic photography specialist Autumn Creek has produced an art show that accompanies it. The artist’s rendition to the victim includes photographs of the two rings that were found with the remains.

Over the years since this person was located, no identifying information has been received and the CCSO Cold Case Team would like to speak to anyone who may have any information regarding this person’s identification or what may have happened to them.''

ETA, thread for other UID referenced in the article..
FL - Fla- Male, 30-59, 5'3-7'', Bulova watch, Zemel Road,6 January 2002

 

[PayrollNerd]

FYI: I think all 3 of these threads are the same article source. Great minds think alike!

 

[dotr]

FYI: I think all 3 of these threads are the same article source. Great minds think alike!

Lol, merge needed?

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Acline is about 20 miles/32 km north of Fort Myers.

 

[iulia]

This is her NamUs page: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

#UP9875
Date Body Found February 12, 1980
ME/C Case Number 1980-74

Sex Female
Race/Ethnicity Black/African American, Hispanic/Latino
Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range 18-30
Estimated PMI Years
Height Cannot Estimate
Weight Cannot Estimate

Location Punta Gorda, Florida 33950
County Charlotte County

Circumstances of Recovery unknown

Inventory of Remains
Torso not recovered
One or more limbs not recovered
One or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

Jewelry
1 silver colored sppon rig size 6 1/2
1 gold colored ring with yellow stone size 9

 

[YaYa_521]

One exclusion:
MP23191 Margie Phillips 04/22/1976 Lee FL

 

[dotr]

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Debra Vanessa Townsel – The Charley Project

• 

• Missing Since 07/01/1980
• Missing From Deerfield, Florida
• 5'5, 130 pounds

2014
67 people who vanished in Florida

 

[PayrollNerd]

The spoon ring is interesting. Makes me wonder if it was a family ring handed down. The origin of spoon rings decends from slavery. If the family recognized the ring, that could be a good clue.

About Spoon Rings: the History of the Spoon Ring

 

[GumshoeMama]

I've been a crime junkie for years but I've finally decided to jump in and try to make a difference. This particular Jane Doe is where I live and grew up, so this is where I plan to start. I'm not sure how long identification is going to take, but I'm nothing if not tenacious. Excited to join the Websleuths community!

 

[GumshoeMama]

What (if anything) should be done if the location of the remains in NamUs doesn't match the location of the remains as reported by the police? They're only off by ~1.5 miles, but the location pin in NamUs puts the remains as being located in a residential area, which was not the case.

 

[GumshoeMama]

After many hours of searching, I'm concerned that this JD might not have been reported missing. I have found two potential matches that have not been excluded in NamUs. Working to vet, but definitely need more experienced eyeballs

#1 NamUs #MP20229

• Missing Since: 04/08/1979
• Missing From: Waterloo, Iowa
• Classification: Endangered Missing
• Sex: Female
• Race: Black
• Date of Birth: 08/11/1951 (71)
• Age: 27 years old
• Height and Weight: 5'3, 110 pounds
• Distinguishing Characteristics: African-American female. Black hair, brown eyes. Rucker goes by her middle name, Ann.

Details of Disappearance​

Rucker was last seen in Waterloo, Iowa on April 8, 1979. She had recently divorced and was working as a cocktail waitress while her sister cared for her son and two daughters.

On the night of her disappearance, Rucker worked late. She called her sister from a grocery store and asked her to take the children to Rucker's apartment on west Donald Street. Rucker said she would meet them there. She never arrived and has never been heard from again.

Rucker was having problems with a boyfriend at the time of her disappearance and, days before she was last seen, she told the police the man was scaring her. Her family believes this individual murdered her, but he has never been charged in her case.

David Barrett, Rucker's youngest child, who was a baby when she disappeared, was raised first by his grandparents and then by his oldest sister. His father was not a part of his life. He grew up believing his mother had been killed in a car accident, and didn't learn the truth about her disappearance until he was an adult. Barrett became a professional football player and played for the New York Jets and the Arizona Cardinals.

Rucker's disappearance remains unsolved.

#2 NamUs #MP55801

Trinidad Venegas, Female, Hispanic / Latino
Date of Last Contact: April 27, 1979
Missing From: Holland, Michigan
Missing Age: 24 Years
Current Age: 68 Years
Circumstances of Disappearance: She left one day and never returned, the family has mixed stories of what happened.

 

[DS2021]

What (if anything) should be done if the location of the remains in NamUs doesn't match the location of the remains as reported by the police? They're only off by ~1.5 miles, but the location pin in NamUs puts the remains as being located in a residential area, which was not the case.

A lot of the time the pin is just an estimation.

After many hours of searching, I'm concerned that this JD might not have been reported missing. I have found two potential matches that have not been excluded in NamUs. Working to vet, but definitely need more experienced eyeballs

None of these seem unreasonable. Distance is a little far imo, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

 

[DS2021]

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Debra Vanessa Townsel – The Charley Project

• 
• Missing Since 07/01/1980
• Missing From Deerfield, Florida
• 5'5, 130 pounds

2014
67 people who vanished in Florida

The date of discovery of the doe , or the date of last contact for debra would have to be wrong for this to be a match

 

[EmiliaRT007]

Jane Doe is listed as Black or Hispanic? Potentially biracial IMO.
Edit: The reason I say this is because Latina women tend to be a bit on the shorter side. Our girl is a little tall. I know some Latina women who are about 5’8” so it’s not impossible but most are about 4’9”-5’2”. Black women tend to be about 5’5”-5’10”. Does she have any DNA available that shows her heritage? I know FL doesn’t tend to cremate Does but if she has been that would suck. I hope we can get DNA from her so we can do genetic genealogy on her remains to positively identify her race or races.

 

[EmiliaRT007]

I've been a crime junkie for years but I've finally decided to jump in and try to make a difference. This particular Jane Doe is where I live and grew up, so this is where I plan to start. I'm not sure how long identification is going to take, but I'm nothing if not tenacious. Excited to join the Websleuths community!

Welcome to Websleuths @GumshoeMama! I joined a month ago after getting into true crime, especially Doe cases, when I was 10. I’m in my late teens now. Interesting that this is a local case! I also focus on some local cases. Tempe Girl 2002 is from the city I was born in and there are a few Does out of Houston, the city I live in now, I focus on too. We’re so glad to to have you here! I’m sure she’ll be identified at some point this year or next year. 2022 and 2023 have been big years for older Doe cases like this one, that are 30-60 years old. Especially the famous ones like Sherri Jarvis (R.I.P.) (FKA Walker County Jane Doe) and Joseph Zarelli (R.I.P. buddy ) (FKA as Boy in the Box)

 

[dotr]

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''1980 Unidentified Remains from Acline Road and Tamiami Trail
November 09, 2021​

On February 12, 1980, skeletal remains were located in the bushes adjacent to the Seaboard Coast Line Railroad tracks in Charlotte County near Acline Road and US 41 (Tamiami Trail) by a bulldozer operator who was clearing trees along the railroad tracks. The Charlotte County Sheriff's Office responded to the scene and began the investigation. Two costume jewelry rings were also located, one size 6.5 silver spoon ring and one size 9 gold ring with a topaz stone.
In 2021, the CCSO Cold Case team requested the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office Forensic Imaging team prepare an image of how the victim may have looked prior to her death.
The victim is believed to be African/Black or Latin/Hispanic female between the ages of 18-35, height estimated to be 5'7" – 5'8". Time of death could be anywhere from several months to several years prior to the discovery.
Anyone with any information on this incident is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-780-TIPS (8477). All callers will remain anonymous and will be eligible for a cash reward of up to $3,000. Tips may also be made online at southwestfloridacrimestoppers.com or on the P3Tips mobile app.'

 

[EmiliaRT007]

Unsolved Homicides - Southwest Florida Crime Stoppers

Southwest Florida Crime Stoppers utilizes modern technology to acquire anonymous crime tips. You do not have to identify yourself, and may be eligible for a cash reward.

southwestfloridacrimestoppers.com

''1980 Unidentified Remains from Acline Road and Tamiami Trail​

November 09, 2021​

On February 12, 1980, skeletal remains were located in the bushes adjacent to the Seaboard Coast Line Railroad tracks in Charlotte County near Acline Road and US 41 (Tamiami Trail) by a bulldozer operator who was clearing trees along the railroad tracks. The Charlotte County Sheriff's Office responded to the scene and began the investigation. Two costume jewelry rings were also located, one size 6.5 silver spoon ring and one size 9 gold ring with a topaz stone.
In 2021, the CCSO Cold Case team requested the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office Forensic Imaging team prepare an image of how the victim may have looked prior to her death.
The victim is believed to be African/Black or Latin/Hispanic female between the ages of 18-35, height estimated to be 5'7" – 5'8". Time of death could be anywhere from several months to several years prior to the discovery.
Anyone with any information on this incident is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-780-TIPS (8477). All callers will remain anonymous and will be eligible for a cash reward of up to $3,000. Tips may also be made online at southwestfloridacrimestoppers.com or on the P3Tips mobile app.'

I’ll start looking for some missing women on Namus that resemble her.
Edit: Exclusions?

 

[EmiliaRT007]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Might be a stretch but has Angela Allen been suggested? I looked at her side by side with the deceased and the noses look similar IMO. Angela’s face is a little shorter but that may just be the picture. She’s a black woman, missing since Dec. 1979, 5’5”, 135 lbs, 28 years old at the time. Black hair and brown eyes.

 

[dotr]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Might be a stretch but has Angela Allen been suggested? I looked at her side by side with the deceased and the noses look similar IMO. Angela’s face is a little shorter but that may just be the picture. She’s a black woman, missing since Dec. 1979, 5’5”, 135 lbs, 28 years old at the time. Black hair and brown eyes.

Cross posted your suggestion on Angela's thread..

NY - NY - Angela Allen, 28, Syracuse, 26 Dec 1979

Angela Elaine Allen Onondaga County, New York 28 year old black/african american female Height (inches) 65.0 Weight (pounds) 135.0 Hair: Black Eyes: Brown Pierced ears Purple dress, red shoes gray...

www.websleuths.com

 

[EmiliaRT007]

After many hours of searching, I'm concerned that this JD might not have been reported missing. I have found two potential matches that have not been excluded in NamUs. Working to vet, but definitely need more experienced eyeballs

#1 NamUs #MP20229
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• Missing Since: 04/08/1979
• Missing From: Waterloo, Iowa
• Classification: Endangered Missing
• Sex: Female
• Race: Black
• Date of Birth: 08/11/1951 (71)
• Age: 27 years old
• Height and Weight: 5'3, 110 pounds
• Distinguishing Characteristics: African-American female. Black hair, brown eyes. Rucker goes by her middle name, Ann.

Details of Disappearance​

Rucker was last seen in Waterloo, Iowa on April 8, 1979. She had recently divorced and was working as a cocktail waitress while her sister cared for her son and two daughters.

On the night of her disappearance, Rucker worked late. She called her sister from a grocery store and asked her to take the children to Rucker's apartment on west Donald Street. Rucker said she would meet them there. She never arrived and has never been heard from again.

Rucker was having problems with a boyfriend at the time of her disappearance and, days before she was last seen, she told the police the man was scaring her. Her family believes this individual murdered her, but he has never been charged in her case.

David Barrett, Rucker's youngest child, who was a baby when she disappeared, was raised first by his grandparents and then by his oldest sister. His father was not a part of his life. He grew up believing his mother had been killed in a car accident, and didn't learn the truth about her disappearance until he was an adult. Barrett became a professional football player and played for the New York Jets and the Arizona Cardinals.

Rucker's disappearance remains unsolved.

#2 NamUs #MP55801
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Trinidad Venegas, Female, Hispanic / Latino
Date of Last Contact: April 27, 1979
Missing From: Holland, Michigan
Missing Age: 24 Years
Current Age: 68 Years
Circumstances of Disappearance: She left one day and never returned, the family has mixed stories of what happened.

Ann’s picture is not very clear, she’s a bit shorter than our UID but I wouldn’t rule her out on that alone. It’s hard to guess the height based on skeletal remains.